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Andrew Sullivan, a conservative, speaking on the Chris Matthews Show....
"The latest revelations on the torture front show—the memo from John Yoo—as well as revelations from Phillippe Sands’ book, mean that Donald Rumsfeld, David Addington and John Yoo should not leave the United States any time soon. They will be at some point indicted for war crimes. They deserve to be."Link
Sullivan can now add a few more names to that list.
It's all out in the open for Americans to behold. For years I have been saying the Bush regime is a criminal regime. Despite the best efforts by these criminals to keep a lid on all their crimes....it was to no avail. It wasn't "a few bad apples"....it wasn't a bunch of lower echelon soldiers "blowing off steam". It was White House policy. Torture, that is.
When Bush said "we don't torture", he was of course speaking about he and the mouse in his pocket. He and his pocketed mouse don't torture. He, not the mouse, simply orders torture to be done. Big difference. And to those who say Bush wasn't in the torture loop, how would you explain the final approval and implementation of the torture policy?
In dozens of top-secret talks and meetings in the White House, the most senior Bush administration officials discussed and approved specific details of how high-value al Qaeda suspects would be interrogated by the Central Intelligence Agency, sources tell ABC News.
The so-called Principals who participated in the meetings also approved the use of "combined" interrogation techniques -- using different techniques during interrogations, instead of using one method at a time -- on terrorist suspects who proved difficult to break, sources said.
At the time, the Principals Committee included Vice President Cheney, former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell, as well as CIA Director George Tenet and Attorney General John Ashcroft.
As the national security adviser, Rice chaired the meetings, which took place in the White House Situation Room and were typically attended by most of the principals or their deputies.
Then-National Security Advisor Rice, sources said, was decisive. Despite growing policy concerns -- shared by Powell -- that the program was harming the image of the United States abroad, sources say she did not back down, telling the CIA: "This is your baby. Go do it."
According to a top official, Ashcroft asked aloud after one meeting: "Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly." Link
Ashcroft's comment is the giveaway. This group of Principals, anxious to unleash medieval practices on detainees, knew the policy they came up with was illegal and criminal. John Ashcroft, the crime gang's legal mouthpiece at the time, questioned the wisdom of talking about torture policy inside the White House. I don't think Ashcroft's question came up because the chairs would have been more comfortable elsewhere. The former Attorney General knew right then, as did the others, that the torture plans they had come up with were, indeed, illegal....thus prompting Ashcroft to immediately default to "we're going to get caught" criminal-preservation mode. History, already, is judging this regime unkindly.
I know that many conservatives of the neo variety continue to support the Bush regime's torture policy. Many conservatives have supported many other criminal regimes throughout history, so this is not surprising.
The question is one of law and order.....again. Some conservatives still believe that the president is immune to obeying American laws and the Constitution. Many dictator regimes throughout the world agree.
As said before by The Reverend.....Bush and these so-called Principals deserve to spend time in a federal penitentiary.
Finally, it's been kicked around by the moronic Knee Padders that Condi Rice could or should be McCain's running mate. Please....make my day. John and Condi could run on the Torture Ticket. John is against torture unless it's the CIA doing it...so he's really not against it at all. And Condi would undoubtedly shore up any hesitation by McCain to order torture by saying, "just go do it."