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By Beacon Journal staff
POSTED: 02:08 p.m. EST, Feb 09, 2009
A 34-year-old female English teacher at Rittman High School was arrested Sunday for alleged inappropriate sexual conduct involving two male students.
Orrville police have charged Erin M. Speicher with one count of sexual battery, a third-degree felony.
Speicher appeared in Wayne County Municipal Court via video from the county jail this morning. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Feb. 18.
Cash bond was set at $75,000.
Rittman Superintendent Jon Ritchie said the alleged incidents occurred at Speicher's home in Orrville. He said school officials cooperated with investigations involving Orrville and Rittman police that were triggered by a parent complaint last week.
Speicher, who was hired in 1996, resigned Friday. She taught ninth-grade English and was the junior class advisor.
Ritchie said he believes Rittman was her first teaching assignment.
A 34-year-old female English teacher at Rittman High School was arrested Sunday for alleged inappropriate sexual conduct involving two male students.
Orrville police have charged Erin M. Speicher with one count of sexual battery, a third-degree felony.
Speicher appeared in Wayne County Municipal Court via video from the county jail this morning. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Feb. 18.
Cash bond was set at $75,000.
Rittman Superintendent Jon Ritchie said the alleged incidents occurred at Speicher's home in Orrville. He said school officials cooperated with investigations involving Orrville and Rittman police that were triggered by a parent complaint last week.
Speicher, who was hired in 1996, resigned Friday. She taught ninth-grade English and was the junior class advisor.
Ritchie said he believes Rittman was her first teaching assignment.
Is she hot?
RICO. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE FOOL
What a stupid comment to make Rico.
Holy cow ! My son graduated from this school in June . When I mentioned this he seemed to know that this was going on ! What the h? Are people thinking ?????? Why would you do this ?
First Rico, she is quite pretty.
Yes my kids loved her. She was a great teacher, but my kids and their friends knew this would happen eventually.
I saw proof, know the kids involved and trust me, this is not her first attempt to "hook up".
Her kids are adorable, she was a great teacher as I said and she left more than a few young men confused and lost.
It really is hard to accept because other than her affinity for male students...she was good for our school.
It's not that stupid of a comment. It was probably on the minds of 50% of the readers of this article.
Now watch...they'll throw the book at this lady...ignoring the horny guys that are VERY capable of making their own decisions...nobody told them to bone her! They should be punished too!!!!! And yeah.....is she hot?
For those of you curious about a picture
http://www.wjbf.com/jbf/news/national/article/ohio_teacher_arrested_allegedly_had_sex_with_students/10801/
She's not that hot! I hope she goes to jail for her crime. Even if she was a great teacher she crossed the line when she fulled around with her students.
Paul did you go to the school board
Her real picture is on the WJW homepage.
As to those who seem to think this is a harmless act for bragging rights, you must have never worked with teens who have been sexually abused/raped.
This person violated sacred trust teachers should have with students.
Throw the book at her. She will get out in 6 months, even get 'house' arrest.
too informed-you saw proof and didnt report it ? were you tapping it also,blackmailing the whoserbag?you just exposed yourself as an idiot !
voice of reason needs to open his eyes. This kind of abuse really takes a tole on the vics lives. I am related to one of the vics and he was really hurt from it! Not only from the heartbreak, but also from the betrayal of being used! How could anyone think that someone wouldn't get hurt from all this. GET REAL!!
Voice of reason needs to open his eyes! How could anyone think that this kind of abuse could never hurt anyone. These kids were sexually abused! I personally know one of the kids and he's really hurt from it all!
where were all these teachers when i was in school?!!!!
rubyeast - I know how you feel. I have two sons in this school. My older son knew that this was her behavior and was approached himself by her. I could not believe this. He even knew others that she had been involved with. Tell me why any teacher would have the need to text my son’s cell phone? I failed by not being more observant to who was calling and texting him.
We have seen this on the news for years and you talk to your kids and this is what happens.
real voice to reason - Let me tell you something; your comment about this not hurting the kids is way off. I personally know the kid that was involved and I can not expressed how messed up he was the night this happened. He is blaming himself and in his mind he truly loves her. He will truely be affected by this. He may be a God in the kids eyes at school, but when they are not around he is a hurting kid.
Given the years it takes to get a degree, then the testing to get licensed, then the continuing education credits not to mention a Master's degree... it makes it all the more surprising.
Then again, many are bent of self-destruction.
That's not her best photo. I assume it wasn't taken under the best of circumstances. Erin is very pretty and was always very nice.
Do people suppose that a magical change happens when a boy "turns into" a man at the age of 18? Kids start having sex around 15 - 16. If they were previous students but were "of age," this wouldn't be an issue. This sounds to me like a case of a spurned 17 year-old trying to get even with his rejector. He probably got mad that she was having sex with one of his buddies and blew the whistle on her to ruin her life.
Clearly, she has problems would make a student the object of her sexual affection. A husband that didn't show her enough affection maybe? I don't agree with her decision, but the whole female teacher - male student thing gets sensationalized. No one would say anything about a 40 year-old male cop with a 23 year-old girlfriend...
How is this kid hurting?
Lobsterclaw, you are probably so right man but the easy thing to do would be avoid sex with students. I can't understand why people even try. Never mind how wrong it is... they're counting on high school kids to be mature enough to keep secrets and, what, participate in an open relationship? I can't even get 30 year old chicks to go along with that type arrangement.
Why is no-one focusing on the main point here? This is a crime. She is in a position of power and responsibility and it is legally and morally unethical for her to have this kind of inappropriate contact with minor student. Would some of you feel differently if it was a male teacher with a female victim. And how is the kid hurting? Suppose he's really in love with her and blames himself for the arrest? How messed up is that. What, because he's a teenage boy you think it's ok for a teacher to take advantage of him? It's just a little fun for him, no harm done? That's just sick.
I hope the posters who are excited about a 34 year old female teacher seducing two 15 year old boys are still in high school.As they mature they hopefully will realize that not all sexual experiences are high-five scores.
A poster mentioned that she had children.If this is correct,then the fallout from her actions will mark them for life.
A whole lot of grief for a little whoopie.
We are not talking about a 40 year old male cop with a 23 year old girlfriend. We are talking about 16 & 17 year old boys with a 34 year old teacher, which I as a parent entrusted to be in a safe learning environment. It does not matter if this was a 34 year old guy teacher with a 17 year old girl. The principles are the same.
It doesn't matter if her husband did not pay enough attention to her; there are plenty of older guys (ADULTS) willing to get a piece for free. I am sure you would be the first in line.
For your information – This was not at all a scorned lover. This was very much an active thing and just so happened, he left his phone where his parents could see it and there was no denying the relationship. His parent did the right thing by calling the police.
He is hurting because he IS in love with her and did not mean for this to happen. She had him convinced they were going to be together. She told him she loved him. That is how these kids get hurt. They believe the authority figures that are hurting them.
People like you that make assumptions without knowing the fact makes me so mad. I know the facts and you are not on track at all. I am living this nightmare with this kid and it is not at all what you assume.
WOW, I can't believe the double standard going on.
Anytime a story comes out about a male doing this stuff he get's crucified before all the facts are even known. And now because a woman committed the CRIME it's all about she's hot, and they are God's at school. Give me a break. She victimized underage boys. Thats the bottom line. Who cares about anything else. I personally am going to pray for all of those affected, including the woman and her family.
Any guy who writes she "victimized underage boys" and will "pray for all those affected" is either a 40-year-old virgin or a priest. Or both. I mean, get real.
So... the news was wrong when it stated that he told his parents?
Vote YES on the levy! They'll need it for the lawsuits.
Oooh. She has been stooped? Sounds like that has been her problem all along! Why does this surprise anyone? Anyone that likes being around other peoples brats all day long obviously has something wrong with them to begin with.
Well I seriously doubt these boys will have ruined lives. For God sakes they got in this teachers pants. No one is saying it is morally right but high school boys love getting a little nookie. Maybe they had feelings for her but those go away justy like they will for any girlfriend they break up with. I had a few teachers in high school I would have tapped and wouldn;t have felt the least bit of guilt. Get over it all you do gooders.
lobsterclaw - Yes the news very much misstated the facts. He did not tell his parents.
The Voice to Reason - Do you have any children? What if this was your 17 year old son? Would you pat him on the back and say "way to go son – you tapped that"?
I bet you were a jock in school weren’t you. Not everyone has the level of confidence that you are showing therefore would be effected differently. Would you be saying the same thing if this was a 34 year old male teacher having sex with a17 year old girl? Oh you probably would. I guarantee if this was happening to your brother, or nephew, you would see things differently.
The bottom line here is that this was an illegal act and everyone in this situation is hurt. This woman has a husband and two young sons. I hope she can get the help she needs because this is NOT normal behavior. It may be normal for boys to want to tap their teacher (as you call it) in high school; but it is not normal when it becomes a reality.
I agree that these kids will not have ruined lives however; you are very much missing the point.
listen, for all you ppl who are talkin bout her being with a buncha young kids, your wrong. the boys she was with were 17 and 18 years old. she wasnt screwin a buincha 14 year olds and yea im not saying she was right because she wasnt. the boy that it happened with is my best friend and was very hurt when he found out about he relationship with the other student. she made him feel like she loved him and only him and that they had somthing special. she doesnt need to be messing with his head like that and any guy that has gone through heartbreak knows what im talking about.
There you have it - - The boy was rejected and tried to get even. Otherwise, this would have been a bragging story for his frat brothers in college. It happened in my high school in the 80's although the teacher was not married. I feel for her husband. She played with fire and got burned. Bound to happen when you mess with immature minds.
lobsterclaw nails it. A scorned lover gets revenge.
I don't know why everyone is so surprised, this happens all the time. It is anything but justified and they need to make it easier to report.
Too informed-change your post name? or are you hiding now,after posting 'I SAW PROOF' ?
answer the question-wtf didnt you turn her in,especially if you are a concerned PARENT?
Would you have turned a 35 yr old male teacher in for tapping your daughter if 'you had proof'?
You are part of the problem and guilty as charged!
Last I checked Rittman was in wayne county, not medina county like the article states.
did she hold a gun to the guys heads during sex? is anything happening to them? basically they're making the teacher look like a sexual predator who manipulated the boys into having sex. um...i doubt that...the guys are young and full of horomones and shes fairly attractive. but...they'll get off free and look like the victims, although i'm sure they enjoyed themselves. justice system is pathetic!
Hot or not, what she did was wrong. This teacher knew what she was doing, but failed to care. I do not feel sorry for her.
Hey Paul.... why don't you tell them about the school's restraining order against you? I love the way you present yourself as the voice of reason and accuse me of being unresponsive. I'm not going to "out" you, but your memory is highly selective.
All the police work and effort to put this in paper is a waste of time. She will get her female sentencing discount and walk.
Just dont be a man and do the same crime as you will do the time!
Lady Justice is blindfolded she is not supposed to use gender to decide a case how ever in the warped justice system she is peeking.
Not a woman hater but when do the sexes get equal treatment under the law? Wayne County you could start now!
BeckyJP1977
Portions of the city of Rittman are in fact in Medina county.
The child molestation needs to stop. I'm glad someone brought this teacher to justice, it will show children through example that they should not do this.
Great looking teacher, I'd bring her an apple.
how kinky! lucky guys!
I agree with Rico! Lester, your spelling and grammar have improved. Keep up the good work!
All parties involved should be punished.
In fact, anyone who knew this was going on should be charged for withholding evidence.
Too Informed - if you did not go to the administration, you are just as guilty.
Hey Bob,
Outing me doesn't change the facts. Attacking me personally doesn't change the facts that I presented. Aren't you better than that? Or do you only help the people who are easy to like? You have a responsibility to address the hard issues. You choose ones where you can bully someone. You have a Rolodex with connections that most of us don't. Traffic complaints are too softball for you - what happened? It doesn't make any difference what my history is, the facts are true as I presented them. Have you ever wondered why Revere can't keep a superintendent longer than 2 years? Have you ever wondered why when one is ready to break their contract early, the school board willingly does so instead of insisting on some continuity and longevity?
Ever wondered why Revere is so strong academically? The reason is the parents. These kids would excel in any district. The administration doesn't what to hear that. It's a classic case of "born on 3rd base, thought he hit a triple" syndrome.
I can't help but wonder if the current leaders of Rittman (the old leaders of Revere) have nurtured an environment where perverts are unintentionally welcomed.
I actually graduated from Rittman several years ago and have had the teacher in class, and it is by far the most surprising news I've heard. I am extremely disappointed that this teacher, above other teachers whom I wouldnt be so surprised over, would stoop to this level for whatever her excuses. Besides, she's not just breaking several ethics barriers and laws between teacher-student relations, she's also married with two children of her own and thus has committed adultry. I feel incredibly sad for her husband and children, and it's a shame that Rittman is getting an even worse name for itself although it's actually not as bad a (small) city as I'm sure most alumni deem it to be.
My son was in her class and she is a very good teacher ,I have met her many times because of teacher confrences,and she did not do this! Over time I heard the kids saying they were going to set her up because she was to involved ,and they hoped that she would quit or go away, she is being framed ,these kids out here a very evil and the school system is just as bad . My son just last year said the other ninth graders would get her sooner or later,and if she did do this shame on her ,but its a no go for me ,she is a class act and a lot of these kids out here in hillbilly heaven will do anything to get away from learning ,my son has been doing great since this teacher and me and my wive decided to keep in contact, we gaveher our cell phone numbers and e-mail so she could contact us anytime,she is being set up by a gang of low life students ,I know for a fact... Another thing she Quit but htat did make her look guilty,they put her under extreme pressure...
Anyone who would do this, knowing the legal and ethical ramifications, obviously needs psychotherapy, along with what ever punishment is deemed just.
i think this is all a bunch of bs this goes on in every school from here to alaska. i went to barberton and my ex was from seville. this happened in barberton with two girls we were all grown we knew what we were doing. i was 19 and she was 17 she married the teacher the day of graduation. the other teacher that i was with we kept in touch for a while and then that was that. as for my ex in seville him and the choir teacher stayed in contact and later they split. my point is this we all knew what we were doing. these"kids" are not kids. and the teachers that we chose to go out with are NOT perverts. i give the ages of these teachers at time and not one of them was over 25. so get over it and stop being hurt because she didnt only chose you but also a buddie. this is from a FEMALE that has been there.
Hey Bob,
One more thing - I'll stick to the facts and you go ahead and keep shooting the messenger.
I think this happens more then everyone realizes.. I can name people i went to school with that we maybe had an idea there was something going on, but nobody realized the extent until we snuck into a bar downtown and at the table next to us sat the teacher (male) with our classmate (female) on his lap in full make out. had there been camera phones then he would have been fired. as for the above people who knew about it and didnt tell- we tried this when i was in school, and 2 of my friends actually got detention for lying because we didnt have proof. first of all it's not their problem, and second.. whats to say anyone believe them?
i think the lady is an idiot, and deserves whatever punishment she gets. if i was her i'd feel kind pervy for even being interested in someone that young. yuck.
I hope the "victim" who wins the mega-millions jackpot enjoys every minute if it!
She's hot enough. Where were these female teachers when I was in high school!
Hey, Paul... you're the one who started the personal attacks. You accused me of being more worried about a teacher's reputation than the students' welfare, and of "totally ignoring" your issue. So an hour-long, face-to-face interview is "totally ignoring" you? If you knew anything about libel laws, you'd realize that I can't write a column accusing a teacher of sexual deviance without any proof whatsoever. You didn't give me one shred of evidence.
Is it true she has been sending out nude pics of herself to cell phones?
As a previous student of Rittman High School and this teacher I find this very hard to believe. If in fact this is the truth she has changed drastically. I agree with some of the other posts on here that maybe this was an angry student that got rejected so he is out to get her. Her resignation doesn't deem her guilty by any means. I personally had a situation while I attended this school with a male teacher, no sexual contact by any means, just the perverted remarks and pictures. He was made to resign or he would have been fired. They resign to protect themselves from having a bad record in the event that they are found not guilty. Regardless if shes found not guilty or not she will still have a bad name because of the accusations. I would have never guessed her to do something like this EVER! She was a great teacher. She put forth as much effort as she possible could on her end to see to it that we all succeeded and graduated.
If in fact this is true, yes it is wrong but isn't 16 the legal age of consent in Ohio? In some of your comments you've called her a pervert and stated to throw the book at her. So I guess that means that everyone involved with someone younger than them is deemed as a pervert?
For the parent that knew this was going on why didn't you report it? Your as guilty as she is IF in fact it is true. What high school male doesn't want to "tap" the hot teacher? Come on people seriously we all know that any one of her students given the opportunity would have "tapped" that. Hormones are raging at there ages, and it gives them bragging rights.
I think everyone should be more respectful not only for the "victims" sake but for her, her husband, and her young childrens sake. Given these are only accusations at this point! Shes innocent until proven guilty. When and IF that day comes that she is proven guilty I feel sorry for her family to have to deal with such an incident!
Best wishes to all involved!
Number One....I use only one screen name.
Number Two.....I informed not only the boy's parents BUT ALSO a teacher that I trusted trying protect my children from being harassed in this tiny town.
I was an idiot because I made an anonymous call to the super's office. I still had two kids in that high school plus one on the way next year.
Nothing stays secret here and my kids would have been harassed by everyone, and some of the staff would likely have treated them with disdain.
FORGIVE ME FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING AND TRYING TO PROTECT MY FAMILY AS WELL.
Growing up here I saw a male teacher sent away and a girl forced to graduate early. I should've known that nothing would be done.
Don't make assumptions that I didn't try. As mentioned above one staff member and Jon Ritchie's office WERE indeed informed.
I assumed wrongly that they had to report it.
Also, in my defense, the 15 year old I saw the proof on this asked me to let him report it. He didn not initiate or want to be with her.
I saw PROOF and he let her know he had a girlfriend and didn't want any part of it, he is extrememly shy.
I spoke to him and said he too told someone in authority.
Again, I feel crappy because I didn't go straight to RPD, but I felt I had gone through proper channels.
We need to bring corporal punishment back to our schools. Not for the students, but for the teachers. And I volunteer to administer it to Ms. Erin M. Speicher. Bare, of course.
Too Informed: I have to agree with your statement that nothing stays secret in the small town of Rittman. Theres no doubt in my mind that your children would have been harassed. As I stated in my last post I was involved in a situation with a male teacher at this school, I reported it along with two other students we thought since it was in the last few days of the school year things would be fine and we wouldn't be bothered, but the next day at school boy were we hated by many. In fact we were hated by most seeings how he was not only a teacher he was the football coach!
On the other hand: I think we all as parents need to educate our children on sex ed! I know many parents that never even discuss the issue with there kids because they "learn" it in school. The school system just skims the top of the topic, you don't learn everything that you should, and in my opinion your kids would take more to heart hearing it from there parents, people that the look up to rather than some teacher that is probably boring them and putting them to sleep in class.
She needs to go to jail the same as any man would have to.
needs to get a facial, she does....ugly!!!
What's Bob Dyer and Paul talking about? Funny if that is really ABJ writer Bob Dyer responding to readers postings.
Georgia Peach: Maybe you should look through all of the posts and get the story right in your own mind. She DIDNT molest these kids, if in fact she did have sexual contact with them they were WILLING! Get real they are 17 and 18 year old boys there hormones are raging, and the legal age of consent in OHIO is 16 years of age! They are just as much at fault as she is IF IT HAPPENED. They are old enough to know better and too young to care!
pretty sad day for all the kids at the high school.not knowing what is gonna happen to their school .will there be big law suits(we are a suing country)that will cut into the school having money for sports,repairs,buses,etc.The age dont matter on these kids.she is the adult and the one they are taught from the begining that they can trust and go to with a problem I dont know how i would of reacted if it had been one of my boys.i know the right thing to do.the other thing that we have been discussing is her kids...this has been going on for years with many other boys(rumors of course) who is to say that her husband is the daddy to those kids.we may have a high school victim who is also a daddy and dont know it.no disrespect to her husband but i think i would have a paternity test done.
Proudmommnyof2, say it ain't so that you are a mommy. You would make the perfect poster for birth control. It is indeed up to adults to teach school age kids that is not ok to romp in the hay with adults, not oblige them. Saying any young boys of shcool age are just as much to blame as a 34 year for sexual romps is something that makes me vomit that a mother said such a thing... i feel sorry for your kids. Where is your head at, when you finally pull it out of a certain orifice, try getting it examined.
I haven't read all the comments, but let's see if I got this right...A FEMALE Teacher has sex (or sexual relations) with students, and its anywhere from OK to a minor crime...but god forbid if a MALE teacher has sex (or sexual relations) with students.
I sure hope she has to register as a sexual offender.
I have several family members that have graduated from Rittman since she started working there. Apparently, she has been doing this sort of thing for almost a decade. If this is true, there is definitely some mental illness there.
My question to some of the people posting comments on this is that a few of you said that she came on to your kids so did you guys go to the police with this or are you just going to let her get away with it because she is a woman and the guys had to be asking for it right? that is crazy she needs to go to jail because I garauntee you that if a male teacher did this to a female there would be no joking around about this situation . like is he hott what are you guys thinking these are young boys and she knew better I say put her away for a really long time ! ! !
I graduated from Rittman High School. I remember attending Proms and it seemed like there were always a handful of girls with dates old enough to be teachers. Nobody from the school ever said anything and there were never any age restrictions in place. I think it says something about the culture in the school system. People are aware of a lot of misconducts but don't report them for whatever reason.
I hope she does jail time too to send a message. I don't have children but if I did, I would want my son involved in a teacher sex scandal.
Lobsterclaw, you are overlooking the fact that teachers have a responsibility to students, parents, and community. I don't care who or what she does as long as it's not my 14-17 year old kid! When they are 18 they are legally allowed to do what they want. The parents also should probably shoulder some blame.
What if this was a male teacher, would all you predator-defenders be singing the same tune?
What if it was a male teacher?
Proud Mommy -
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2907.03
see (A)(7)
The "age of consent" doesn't apply to a charge of sexual battery between a teacher and student enrolled in his/her school - the student could be 19 and it is still illegal.
How did this predator lure the poor unknowning kids into her house then abuse them? They must have known what was going to happen if they willingly went to her house with no one else around. I feel bad for her husband and kids but not her so-called victoms, they wanted it just as much as she did but then got caught and cried rape.
and what if it was a male teacher, unless he forcefully took the high school student back to his house and rape the kid I'd say its just as much on the student as it is the teacher.
If she were a black male teacher, and he were a sophomore white girl cheerleader we would not be making excuses,comparing his looks to Will Smith's or anything like that. If the teacher were male and the student male we would not ask how hot they are. We would want justice, and thats what adults want now. Those of you discussing her looks or making light, are the reason people (boys and girls) dont report sexual assualts. Your ignorance fosters a safe haven for child molesters.
WHY is the molestation a boy 15,16, or 17 alrighty if the perpatrator is a woman? As a woman I am grossed out by her behavior, but I see theres a lot of people on this forum who would cheer on this child molester...If one of those boys moms wants to meet the teacher after school at the flag pole, I could totally understand.
is it true that she has small children? if i was her husband, i think i'd be hittin up some maury povich like tests, haha.
OK...I accept that I didn't go to the police and that makes me guilty for not knowing proper channels.!
I reiterate, I let the system know, the parents know and a trusted teacher.
I never implied my children were approached!! Only that my kids liked her and I knew her to teach them English well.
I stated that one of their friends came to me.
Had it been one of my children, I'd have gone to everyone I could think of. Informing the boy's mother and father put it in their hands. That IS responsible behavior on my part.
If Jon Ritchie's office lost the message that is on them and the teacher I spoke to says it was passed up to the office. Both of those actions were responsible behavior as well.
I stand by my actions. I am not a Child Protective Officer, School Administer or laywer. I have never faced this type of situation and did what seemed appropriate.
Gosh, I was called and idiot and guilty for knowing Ohio's Revised Code.
Yet another poster for birth control. Burger, what part don't you understand this teacher had no business whatsoever having anything but professional contact with these kids. Regardless of how the whole situation came about, this teacher is 34 years old and it was up to her to make sure these kids understood it would be wrong for her to have sexual contact with them. Apparently and assuming she did have sexual contact with them, she did not want to make them understand, so therefore that makes her a PREDATOR.
Too Informed - must not have been to important or you would have made sure that something was done.
From the picture of the teacher, I would have to assume the boys or girls involved were blind.
aw man akroudy, she's not that bad!
kbad - Ok maybe they were just near sighted.
Yeah, the boys involved probably aren't scarred and shaken with trauma from this ordeal, however, the teacher is completely at fault here for letting personal needs spill over into her professional life. She deserves what she gets I suppose.
It's not her job to teach the kids morals, its her job to teach them English. I just feel that these kids should not be concidered the victoms here. They are old enough to know what they were getting into. She didn't trick them into anything, she offered and they accepted. Thats all their is to it. She should have never did it but it was with old enough young adults that can make up their own minds.
haha near sighted it is.
i dont understand how this even starts up. i mean, let's say the teacher wants to initiate something like that.. how do you go about doing it in the first place.. "whats your cell number so i can text you later?" i mean come on, this had to have been going on a long time, and the parents didnt know till just recently? it wasn't that long ago that i was in school, and even the teachers i had crushes on i was to flustered around them to answer a question in class let alone get a phone number. i'd like to hear the rest of this story.
LOL@Akroudy. I couldn't figure out if it was a male or female until i read the caption.
gg: yet another poster for birth control? you have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe your mom should have been on birth control. yes I'm a mother and a good one at that. Yes they are just as much at fault as she is IF (and notice i put that in caps) it even happened. I still think this is a case of rejection so they are out to get her. Apparently if the parents have known and didn't say anything until now they were ok with it too. As a mother myself of two sons I dont see why any woman her age would risk being taken away from my children for some childish immature high school kid. She was one of the most professional teachers that Rittman High School had. I dont believe it for a minute. And if it turns out to be true I will be VERY shocked!
Burger: your absolutely right. Its the job of his parents to teach him morals. If they were more involved in there kids life this wouldn't have happened. Thats the problem with these kids, they run the streets, have cell phones that are not monitored, and not taught by the parents who should be there biggest role model. I'll be interested to get more details on this story, because I'm sure people that are claiming to be a "victim" were not forced to engaged in sexual conduct with her!
They are the talk of the town and have bragging rights!
What gives here? How come we hear about these fairly hot to smokin hot teachers playin around with young boys? Do they really think they are going to really benifit from this? These teachers are educated or so we thought and get caught with their hands in the you know what. What are they thinking.? You have to be a complete and utter dolt to not think a male student wouldnt be high fivin and telling his peeps after tappin a school teacher. It would be the talk of the school right quick.
Male or female if they are not set up by some kid looking for payback they should be locked up. They are stupid way beyond being sic. Man, stupid chick....give up her family, her rep,her job, her life for some young sweaty boy tail....ummmm she needs to be locked up!
She abused her position..She is no better than a parent abusing there children.....Lock her up and throw away the key! nasty is what she is!
i had mrs. speicher as an englich teacher several years ago, she was an awesome teacher, so this does suprise me. there were always guys in my class swooning over her but she acted very proffesional around us. have any of you guys ever thought that maybe something is psychologically wrong with her for her to be interested in young men. also the boys are not the only victims. Her small children and husband will have to live with this for the rest of their lives as well.If all that has been said is true, then she should do jail time, but if it is not her life is ruined regardless.
As a teacher, you have a moral responsibility to act PROFESSIONALLY with your students. I teach students as old as 22 and I'm only 26. I don't party with them, exchange personal phone calls or emails, or sleep with them. It doesn't matter if the boys "wanted it" or not. Their opinion is void, she raped them no matter if they liked it or not.
It is scientifically proven that teenagers brains are not done developing and are constantly changing during high school years. They are not to be expected to make the same choices that a mature adult would make. Just because they look full grown doesn't mean they are.
Hemoroids and proudmommyof2: You’re an idiot! Do you honestly believe they would arrest a woman because someone just said they had sex? No! They would need proof, which they had. I’m in the school now and in know the facts. Don’t for a second blame the kids involved or say they are lying or they set her up and it never happened. Everything you say is wrong. First off she wasn’t involved with ninth graders. I can see ninth graders being immature enough to do something so stupid as to make up something like that but there were none involved! The kids that were involved didn’t wish for her to get caught, it just happened. They didn’t want her gone or “set her up” as you say. They may feel differently now but at the time that’s how they felt, and it’s not the students fault or a figment of their imagination. You think you know the teacher just because you talked to her at conferences? Do you think a criminal can’t be living as your neighbor? Are you that naïve? Stop blaming the kids and making up completely wrong theories! If you wish to think this way keep it to yourself because you are completely wrong!
And as for you lobsterclaw. There was no “scorned lover” or “rejected boy.” I don’t know where you’re getting this theory and why you keep saying it but you’re wrong. There were multiple victims but they weren’t at the same time. There was nothing like that.
Burger: No one ever said anything about rape, only that there was a teacher involved in sexual relations with students. Its illegal no matter what, she doesnt have to rape them for that.
And to everyone complaining about "shes a woman what if it was a male?" shut up, she hasnt even been punished yet. I'm sure she will get whatever she deserves.
Hemoroids and proudmommyof2: You’re an idiot! Do you honestly believe they would arrest a woman because someone just said they had sex? No! They would need proof, which they had. I’m in the school now and in know the facts. Don’t for a second blame the kids involved or say they are lying or they set her up and it never happened. Everything you say is wrong. First off she wasn’t involved with ninth graders. I can see ninth graders being immature enough to do something so stupid as to make up something like that but there were none involved! The kids that were involved didn’t wish for her to get caught, it just happened. They didn’t want her gone or “set her up” as you say. They may feel differently now but at the time that’s how they felt, and it’s not the students fault or a figment of their imagination. You think you know the teacher just because you talked to her at conferences? Do you think a criminal can’t be living as your neighbor? Are you that naïve? Stop blaming the kids and making up completely wrong theories! If you wish to think this way keep it to yourself because you are completely wrong!
And as for you lobsterclaw. There was no “scorned lover” or “rejected boy.” I don’t know where you’re getting this theory and why you keep saying it but you’re wrong. There were multiple victims but they weren’t at the same time. There was nothing like that.
Burger: No one ever said anything about rape, only that there was a teacher involved in sexual relations with students. Its illegal no matter what, she doesnt have to rape them for that.
And to everyone complaining about "shes a woman what if it was a male?" shut up, she hasnt even been punished yet. I'm sure she will get whatever she deserves.
This article is older, but offers good info regarding male vs female teachers as sex offenders:
http://www.slate.com/id/2134158/
Also, anytime you are in a position of authority over a minor, any contact is unlawful. Even though one of the students was thought to be 18, she is still in a position of authority, so that would at minimum be considered sexual harassment, which is a hot topic and punishment can be severe.
For argument sake, many Universities prohibit consenual relations between professor and student and these people are all over 18. The student can be expelled and the teacher fired. FYI
Just for argument sake, many Universities prohibit consensual relations between Professors/Supervisor and students and they are all over 18. There's a reason for this. The punishment is severe, expulsion and termination.
If they're not of age it's clearly against the law. Men get put in jail for stuff like this, let alone the amount of times she did it.
Can someone please tell the woman in the photo to move. I can't see the hot smoking teacher everyone is talking about.
AKRoudy....As I didn't tell you the time frame, you again make assumptions! You are right that nothing TOO bad happened that time.
The student that came to me to talk didn't have further contact and in that case, no actual crime had taken place hence no need to call the police.
If you think about it, they may have begun an investigation then.
Regardless, I wasn't aware of the other students until this broke.
Leave it to a high school student to call the rest of us idiots! That student is probably one of the ones she rejected also. I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. I have my opinion that I will NOT keep to myself because nobody else does. Thanks for your immature high school input though!
She's not hot. But to a 15 year old boy, anything that breathes is good enough.
Proudmommyof2, your children should be taken away from you so they can be better protected. If they were to come to you and tell you a teacher is sleeping with or trying to sleep with them,i take it you will call them a liar like you are calling these kids.
Like i said proud mommy, you are a poster for birth control.
and i didnt call the rest of you idiots. Only those who deserve the name.
Erin Speicher was an excellent teacher and as far as I knew a good person with a lovely family. When something like this happens it is no doubt, hard to understand/believe. Things like this happen everywhere, and it may be someone you would never suspect. When this happens in a small town like Rittman, it's even harder to stomach.
I think that the bashing of eachother needs to stop here, guys. We are all entitled to our own opinions and should post them if we wish. However, complaining about eachothers comments is really a bit silly. No one but the parties involved know for sure what happened and we need to respect that. If you don't know the whole story, please do not make accusations, or rude comments about any of it.
Regardless of what happened, she has to live with the consequences of her actions. I can only imagine what her family is going through, and the guilt that she must be feeling for putting them through such an ordeal. I'm certain that the courts will deal with this appropriately and that the school will do the same. In the meantime, my thoughts will be with the parties involved and their respective families.
she's probably accused falsely
I don't think shes ugly at all. Does she have a hot body? We can't tell from the picture what the rest of her looks like.
The teachers I had were really UGLY. This one would have been a prize catch and would have been the talk of the locker room.
Look at it this way, she educated them on the ways of life and gave them a masters degree in sex education.nuff said..
RHSknows and gg: you can bash me all you want and say whatever comes to your minds as your typing. I know one thing and that is that my children are very well taken care of by myself and my husband! No i'm not saying that if they came to me and said they were "tapping" one of there teachers I wouldn't report it! Because I absolutely would, however you should consider not only reading the posts on here but also other websites regarding this situation. These parents knew for some time and didnt report it! Why wait? This is your kid that you should be protecting right? So it was ok that he was "tapping" the teacher until he got his heart broke, then its time for revenge right? Thats not how it should have been handled. I NEVER said I refuse to believe that this is true, however, I did say that I find this VERY hard to believe. As did some of the other posters. So why don't you try bashing someone else for once. I could really care less because I'm more of a person than either of you. Neither of you probably have kids so you can talk whatever trash you want, or wait RHSknows probably does since theres a whole lot of them students over there that have kids. GROW up. Defend your best friend, I would too. But in the end if shes innocent your going to look like a complete idiot! And yes I will throw this in your face! My kids will NEVER be taken from me so keep dreaming!
RHSknows: never rejected hunnie! far from that. i'm going to assume your one of the high school band nerds that has been rejected yourself!
proudmommy: you suggest that the HS students are immature, yet you are name-calling like a grade school student with the "your momma" retorts. It really discredits your earlier posts that sounded sincere. I also knew Erin and liked her very much. I am shocked by the allegations and find them hard to believe--but there is obviously more to the story then we know or it wouldn't have gotten this far.
Yes, maybe the boys are hurting, but probably no more than if they would have been dumped by their high school age girlfriends. The fact remains that if she did do what she is accused of doing, she is in the wrong even if the boys were consenting. I feel terrible for her husband and sons who are the real victims of this situation.
goodie: yeah maybe I should have kept my opinion on his/her mom using birth control to myself. but they should have never put my kids in this. My kids are very young and have no reason to be involved or even brought up in this situation. It was completely irrelevant. I didn't start bashing anyone on here they came at me with some b/s.
However I do have to agree with your statement about these boys hurting no more than if they were dumped by there high school aged girlfriend.
Attacking each other after the fact does no one any good. The fact is this happens in every school, every generation. The best we can do is try to prevent it by talking to our children and keeping a relationship open with them. We can't be everywhere they are. We need to make them aware that these things can happen and how to react if it does, send them out the door, then pray they are safe. I have a child in that school. Although she is handling it well, it is the first time the bad side of adults has hit her so closely and it has left her alittle broken hearted. As for the the teacher, I feel more compation for her husband and children than her. She must however have real emotional problems to do something like this and risk her family and career. WHERE IS OUR COMPATION FOR THE HUMAN RACE! We have all made stupid mistakes, some worse than others. And we shouldn't judge others till the facts are known..
Excuse me! I have more to say, but I had a phone call. Like I was saying we pray the world doesn't do our children harm, but when it does we can only be there for them. My children are the world to me, but I can only protect them so far. As for bashing the students, friends,and parents, I'm sure everyone delt with the situation the best they knew how. It is easy to tell someone what they should have done. It is another to go through something so devistating and make all the right decisions. And true! we don't know that the teacher is guilty YET! She has not been convicted. My prayers are with everyone involved!
What a waste of internet space, she will do little to no time in jail for this. The teacher at Buchtel will do way more and he had sex with a student that was of age.
The feminine sentencing discount is being applied here.
Proud mommy, you continually defend a child molester, you probably both have the same ip address.
My friends and I all agree there are some really hot High School chicks and of course we check them out. Most men do... women are no different.
The difference between this woman and the rest of us is she crossed a line that is very defined.
- LOOK BUT DON'T TOUCH
She is up there with all the other male perv's (molesting priests, coaches, etc) that cross that line.
She needs to pay for her crimes but i'm sure because she is a woman the penalty will be minimal.
gg: freedom of speech, and i have my right to my opinion. I NEVER have and NEVER will molest a child. So no your statement about our IP addresses being the same is WRONG once again. As a victim of being sexually molested as a teenage girl, it would NEVER cross my mind. You should find something better to do with your life than sit on here all day bashing someone else. I hope you feel real good about yourself now that I've let the truth out about MY childhood. Read my earlier posts, I'm not saying that this is impossible because I had a similar situation happen in this same high school with a male teacher. My parents went to the police and the school immediately when I came home from school that day. I'm confused as to why the people that supposably knew this was going on thought it was right to keep there mouth shut for some time? If it was truly going on it should have been addressed immediately. You hear a lot of these stories anymore and a good portion of them turn out to be lies. I have the right to my own opinion, as do you, and as I've said before If this is the truth I will be shocked.
You must have a miserable life to have to sit on here and try to bring people down all day. You haven't and wont bring me down EVER.
My guess is that gg is a family member or friend of the supposed "victim". To be absolutely sure that she is not being falsely accused of this you must be related somehow.
proudmommyof2: I’m not "bashing" you or anything of the sort. I’m just telling the facts, straight from someone who is in the high school and directly involved in the situation. NO parents KNEW anything. The situation of the cops being notified had nothing to do with a relationship ending with the teacher or anything like that. And as soon as the parents did find out what was happening they notified police. IMMEDIETLY. If you truly are a victim of a child sex crime, then why are you so quick to blame the students and accuse them of lying? You should be the first to stand up for them.
and im not a "nerdy band geek"
you're not even close
Here is the best line of the story:
"Ritchie said he believes Rittman was her first teaching assignment."
Wouldn't the superintendent know if this was her first job?
I'm sure the Summit County Predator list will have her front door falling off its hinges.
Anyone having trouble posting?
RHSknows: Its not just people on this site, there are postings on the other newspapers sites that say the parents knew for some time and didnt report it until the kid found out she was having a relationship with someone else and got his heart broke. I personally find this hard to believe considering the type of teacher she was when I was in high school when she first started there. And like I said in my first post if this is true I will be shocked.
I don't think that we should call these boys "victims" persay. They knew what they were doing and were willing right? They knew what they were going to her house for, so in my opinion if these accusations are true she could be charged with corrupting them but I wouldn't necessarily say that she molested them. Being molested is something that is unwanted sexual contact.
I know many students in that school, and I have family members that attend that school. You must understand that there are always going to be rumors and many many different stories in a situation like this. She is innocent until proven guilty, and that is the theory that I seem to follow until it is proven otherwise. If this in fact did happen I cant say that I will feel sorry for the "victims" because they knew what they were doing. The true victims are her husband and two young sons I do and will always feel for them to have to go through such a horrible thing!
[Disclaimer: Because I can't 100% assure my privacy, I have to say that what I'm about to write may be true or it may be fiction. You need to decide.]
When I was 16, back in 1986, one of my female teachers seduced me so I know what this is like. It was my first sexual experience too. She convinced me to go with her to her apartment, and I had to create so many lies to my friends and parents to cover for the time, that by the time I got into her car I was already EXTREMELY nervous about what I was doing. (But my 16 year old hormones were also driving me crazy with excitement.) I was nervous getting out of her car and going into her apartment that someone might see me. Once we went to her bedroom I was still so nervous that I had a lot of trouble "arousing", but I finaly did. Then the actual act lasted maybe 2 minutes. After I finished I felt so embarrassed and so awkward that all I wanted to do was get my clothes back on and go home. I was feeling sick to my stomach. She drove me back to the mall (our secret meeting spot), I got myself home, and after that I had a terrible time even looking at her in school anymore.
I'm writing this to let everyone know - from personal experience - that for the boy it isn't always as exciting after you've done it as you might think. That's just part of why this is so wrong. I feel for these boys, because I know how awful and disgusted I felt for such a long time, because of what I did and how many lies I had to tell to do it. And I still keep this all inside. To this day I wish I never did it. It can leave terrible emotional scars. I now have two happy, friendly boys of my own, ages 12 and 14, and believe me I will watch over them very carefully in the years to come.
Akroudy: ritchie has only been super here for a year. He wouldnt know that if he hasnt done a check.
proudmommyof2: show me these sites that say this? Like i said I’m friends with the students, best with one and they didn’t even know about each other until after the arrest and investigation. That’s when the second boy came forward. I’m not saying your wrong, just the articles where you’re getting this info.
i just hope she has a plan b for the rest of her life. imagine trying to date her after this madness? who wants to catch their chick with a teenage boy?
i feel so much safer now...
maybe stealing trillions is preferable to this stupid and foolish act that should have been a misdemeanor at worst, and this nation is going to the banks...
i feel sexually and financially abused by these banks, and could explain exactly how that sexual abuse occured, except i'd be in jail with our teacher friend for doing it while still are being screwed 24/7 by the corner bank
When I was at RHS, it was rumored that a certain teacher had a relationship with her student and eventually ended up marrying him. The irony is that he actually ended up becoming a Superintendent of Rittman Schools. If you want proof, break out your yearbooks and see. It just goes to show this sort of relationship is perfectly acceptable.
She should have to do 2 years for each kid she was with, no exceptions!
She's been there since 1996, there's no telling how many victims there actually are.
RHSknows: go to the daily record site. There were some on there, i noticed yesterday that some have been deleted for whatever reason. There were also more on here that were deleted. Why? I'm not sure if they were too personal or what not but there were more on here that did get deleted. There was one parent on here that stated she told the parents and another teacher and left it at that. Good on her part but why didn't the people that she told report it as soon as it was out in the open about the incident? That is why I choose the opinion that I have on the situation.
She won't do a day in prison. That's only for sex offenses committed by men.
HOT,,,OH MY GOD YOU PEOPLE NEED YOUR EYES CHECKED,,,thats not even 3am bar fly hot ,,,BUT THEN AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RITTMAN..
Katholik's in Publik Schools Bob Dyer?
Thank the Sykes' for saving your Irish "Friends" from Stan Chesley whom drilled Cincy for $100 Million and Covington,Ky. for $80 Million.
Obviously our legislature is a prisoner of The Coke Trade !!!!
I have a question for the former students (and some parents) of this woman who have made posts defending what a great teacher she was. Doesn't she teach Language Arts? If she was so effective in the classroom, why don't your posts reflect your exceptional writing skills? Sentences start with a capital letter and end with punctuation. Separate thoughts are not run together with endless commas in between. And yes, there is a big difference when using "there, their, or they're", and "your or you're." Let's not even start on the spelling....
So, tell me again what a great teacher she was.
Mom 2 6: This is online posting, not an english paper or essay. No body types perfect online because nobody really cares.
proudmommyof2: I couldnt find anything.
I had Mrs. Speicher in her first year of teaching at Rittman High School. If someone would have told me that this was going to happen twelve years later, I would have called you a liar. A relationship between teacher and student emerged from my class a week after graduation, however it was not until they surfaced did it dawn on people how much time they spent with each other when we were seniors.
Oh by the way JPJ I had the superintendent's wife for gym.
Ok, so now I'm curious about all these other teacher/student relationships at RHS that everyone keeps talking about! I've never heard anything about them before now. Someone want to fill me in?
Too Informed, Would you be saying "he" was handsome
if it had been a male teacher? She was good for your school even though you knew, as a parent she was trying to “hook up”
Here is a link to 183 more female teacher predators just like her.
They range in age from 19-60.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39783
Most of the 183 have raped multiple male students. Take note of what charges were filed against the female teachers. NONE were charged with rape only sexual misconduct.The difference in punishment is 3yrs. vs. 20 yrs. ONLY male teachers that do the same thing are charged with rape. It’s a double standard that you people will not admit to or even talk about it.
To the male students at this school you need to know!
If a female student sends a nude picture of herself to your cell phone or computer, only YOU will be arrested and prosecuted for it, she will not be punished by the law.
If you have sex with an underage girl at school only YOU will be arrested and prosecuted. You will be charged with rape and you will be registered as a child molester. The female will not be punished.
Female or male I have no sympathy for a teacher that rapes their students.
This teacher is just as disgusting and despicable as all of the others
Actually MensReality, I would mention a man's looks to further point out how strange I found it that he would throw it away when he could have had a mature relationship.
Like that blonde=modelesque teacher not that long ago on national news, I kept saying, "But she could have had a great man, not a boy".
I do stand corrected in that I said she was a good addition. I SHOULD have qualified it with "could have been with her willingness to take on the school newspaper, junior class advisor and the hours she put in to make prom nice".
I agree the inequity on these sentencing habits.
I also would say that these two boys/young men (that is a matter of semantics) weren't the only ones victimized.
The young man I knew she "tested the waters" with has been called in by police. He's now a legal adult (but still a student) and put it behind him. He could be called in to testify.
SO....he will be made fun of by some in his peer group for NOT "hooking up" and vilified by others for not turning her in before any crimes he could prove.
