Of course handing out almost a million dollars because jail deputies murdered a guy doesn't help.

How about cutting some WELFARE?

Take the monies from unneeded social engineering programs that breed DEPENDANCE on the gov't and sent it to the sheriff?

That was paid by an insurance company Slamone.

Welll you two certainly have the right idea,the only problem is,is that its smart and they certainly dont have time for that.lol!!!
You know the robbers,carjackers and all else are popping champagne corks off reading this.

Well I better saying HEARING this news,cuz im sure they cant read.

They need to take a pay cut I sure as hell did.

Have a have time understanding why a public servent needs a union. If they don't like the job find another

Either way it's all politics!!

MAYBE SHAQ CAN BECOME A PART OF SUMMIT COUNTY'S DEPARTMENT AND GIVE UP SOME OF HIS MILLIONS TO HELP A BETTER CAUSE (KEEPING US SAFE) MAYBE LEBRON TOO SINCE WE ARE HIS HOMETOWN :) FORGET BUYING THE KIDS BIKES (WHICH MIND YOU IS GOOD) GET OUR POLICE BACK ON THE STREETS

Gee, aren't these government jobs? Why then , do all the far right conservatives on here want to grow government? I thought you all were for smaller government. can't have it both ways.

itemscool2002- this site is NOT for YOUR free personal advertisement space, comment on the article, or stay off the web site.

I am glad Akron has Mayor Plusquellic and he has not had to lay off any officers. Instead of Lt. Governor, Mayor Plusquellic should run for County Commissioner and straighten Summit County out.

Charging inmates for their stay is brilliant - why the hell have I (the taxpayer) been paying for it all these years!?

Thats great, shutter the sex predator unit. Somebody else said, why do we not cut money to the do-nothing welfare types first, half of which do not even need what they get?

do not buy from that guy his stuff is all junk knockoffs.....

Freekin beacon bans me for 6 weeks for telling a whack to go dig a 6 foot hole and jump in it caving in the sides,but allows a scammer to sell junk ?

@OUTLAW; Beacon must have caught wind of him. All his posts are down.

hello

It is simple...start going after the low lifes that owe the city and county money. My neighbors owe the courts close to $2000 because of their lack of respect of the law. If the areas would go after these people for the money they wouldn't have to worry as much.

Badges?

We don't need no stinkin' badges.

Turn law enforcement over to the wannabe vigilantes.

Jeff, A union is needed to protect the best interests of the employee, in this case the Deputy's. If a union was not in place, the Sheriff could randomly pick and choose who goes and who stays. Although I do not belong to a union, you can thank them for some of the benefits we now take for granted such as a 40 hour work week.

Mind you, this is the same guy who said he didn't want to see anyone get pink slips then didn't have the stones to hand them out himself. He made the people he's demoting do it before they get demoted. He'd rather keep all those retired Akron guys on his payroll collecting a retirement check AND a paycheck to go golfing and drinking. Why does Russ Pry's office give out one number for the cuts and the sheriff give a different number??? Must be that new math.

Just remember not to complain when those sex offenders are not tracked, when your school programs are cut, when there is no one to investigate your burglary, assault, etc., when someone who needs to go to jail can't get in because there's no one there to run it. These aren't scare tactics, they're very real cuts. I have no problem with all across the county taking concessions, but those high and might administrators in EVERY department should be forced to trim the fat in their administrations as well.

@big apples guy: i was hoping that would happen, hope he gets banned....

Is Sheriff Alexander taking a pay cut too?

This is absolutely crazy, first the Fire Department (who wisely supened the Mayor and his "accounting staff was there
with mathematical equations, Re: How did you project the defict was the question from the Union hired accountant

answer from The City of Akron Finance= I took the first 6 months and then multiplied x2 (woooo) then a time out to look over the accountants report, I suggest The Summit County Sheriff Deputies Union do the same as thesee numbers do not make sense obviously ( WE CAN NOT HAVE LESS Sheriff Deputies patrolling the streets and running the jail, its already understaffed and every time a Sheriff's Deputy pulls over a car their life is on the line and in many, many circumstaces as well, Not alot of peoples employment requiresputting their life on the line, Police, Sheriff Deputies, Swat Units, Fire Depatment , Paramedics , There is money, reallocate and some of the big wigs in Akron Politics need to take a cut too, same as adminitration in
These Management Positions (if deemed that to many people that are counting as overhead and not Public Service,
What would You tell soldiers on the ground and in the air in Iraq and Afghanistan (take a pay cut ) Imagine that , Lets hope that never happens , If we get out of these warr zones where the people dont want us there anyway the USA would save bilions and billions rather than work with crooked and untrustworthy Governments such as Afghanistan
and Iraq wants us out too (witout repaying anything and pumping oil 24/7

NO LAYOFFS WE NEED SAFETY SERVICES !!

Broken Arrow

Obama and joe BIDEN are right the stimulas package is working.

Sure glad I didn't vote for these 2 con artist

Like Akron, I'd be interested in seeing if they county is juggling their finances to show a deficit.

Akron was proven in court that they had the money.

I don't want to see the county safety forces cut. As previously pointed out, the county can cut in other areas first.

Like Akron, it looks as if the county's donation to keep Goodyear has come back to haunt them.

Ahhhhh, there you go again all of you experts. If only the world would listen to all of you! I imagine your collective IQs wouldn't amount to anything beyond double digits.

What else are the deputies being asked to cut? C'mon Beacon, tell us details instead of some kind of blanket statement ... "The cuts include forgoing raises next year." Just raises? Furlough days? Vacation?

When Alexander was running for Sheriff he bashed Warren for having a top heavy dept and he would do away with nepotism. Then he got voted in..he hired his retired APD buddies (who are collecting pensions and making over $100,000 annually), gave secretarial jobs to their lovers (hired in at twice the pay as the previous ones). They golf and drink all day. They are not out helping the community and they should be the first to go. I wish someone would get in there and clean house.

I haven't had a raise in two years, wage was cut, benefits reduced, bonus eliminated, 5 rounds of layoffs, three unpaid furloughs....

No sympathy for them. In fact, I'm less likely to get hassled 'cause I can't afford a new muffler. I won't miss them. At all.

Since we are on this topic... I am curious as to where the AKRON FOP and AFD are in their negotiations for their new contracts. It is my understanding that the deal struck a couple of months ago only gets us to January 1.

patriot76
hudson, oh

Posted 09:21 AM, 11/17/2009:

"I haven't had a raise in two years, wage was cut, benefits reduced, bonus eliminated, 5 rounds of layoffs, three unpaid furloughs...."

Bingo. There are a lot of people who have no clue how devastated the economy of the lower Great Lakes region is. Many companies from just west of Chicago through just east of Syracuse - and everywhere in between - are down 50% in revenues this year. These concessions actually sound pretty mild to the ear of just about anyone who toils in any Mfg-based occupation in the region.

SCSD, is so much a joke.
Glad I didn't get hired there.
So thanks for the favor SCSD.

LISTEN TO WHAT CHAOS HAS TO SAY HE HAS THE IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THE PROBLEM IS. "DEPUTIES GIVE IT UP DREW KEEP" BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOING TO TELL HIM WHAT TO DO(and he has made that statement) STOP ALLOWING DREW TO BE A DICTATOR OF THE COUNTY

Drew Alexander feels worse than anyone about this. What ever people say about him, I know he bleeds blue. Russ Pry and his DEMOCRATES on COUNTY CONCIL are the ones that want every department in the COUNTY to cut back millions from their budget because the usual DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS in WASHINGTON, COLUMBUS, SUMMIT COUNTY,and AKRON can't figure it out that US CITIZENS are loosing jobs, taking cuts, and are cutting back to the bone and can't pay THEM any more tax's because WE are going BROKE. It's US that are going broke, not THEM. GOVERNMENT ALWAYS WANTS AND GETS MORE. So if your one of those life long OHIO DEMOCRATS that hasn't had an idea of how to run good efficient government since before WW2 I guess you are going to have to suffer like the REST OF US. And maybe the rest of you that wanted CHANGE might want to RETHINK that NEXT ELECTION. In the MEANTIME don't forget to pay your TAX'S and GET LESS SERVICE. Good Luck.

HEY NO 7 IT'S SCSO GOOD THING YOU DIDN'T GET HIRED YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU WERE

Too bad so sad, it's time for you to go!!!

Summit County issued layoff notices this week to 45 sheriff's deputies, informing them that they will be out of work Dec. 21 if the sheriff's unions don't agree to cut their pay and benefits. TOO MANY CHIEFS NOT ENOUGH INDIANS! HEY DREW HOW MUCH PAY & BENEFITS CUT DID YOU AND THE UNTOUCHABLES TAKE?

Why is it always incumbant upon the unions to take concessions? The county made this agreement with the FOP...now live up to it! There HAS to be another way to handle this besides layoffs, Drew! Stand up to Russ Pry and the corrupt machine!

Well, at least the city of Akron will have their usual upcoming holiday events. Perhaps that will make them feel better!!!

@citizenk62, Drew feels bad? Really? What is he willing to give up? NOTHING!!!! HE wants to let go 45 young men to save his buddies that have already retired. Get rid of the double dippers first, then talk about layoffs.

good luck collecting from county jail inmates, a real gold mine there.

Pry, Alexander and their staffs are handling a very difficult situation as well as can be expected. The union's job is to protect its members' best interest within the context of the conditions at hand. When times are good, this means pushing for raises and increased benefits. When times are tough, this means making a choice between concessions and layoffs. Cuts are being made across the County’s budget and the current administration has a track record of being honest, creative and easy to work with. There is no reason to believe the financial situation is anything different than it has been presented to be. The union needs to do its due diligence in looking at the books, but at the end of the day it is going to have to make the call between concessions and layoffs or some combination of the two.

I hope the union doesn't concede to pay cuts.That would be a slippery slope. And, let's not get confused into thinking these guys are raking in $100K a year. They're NOT. Taking a 16% pay cut would be significant. Having to shut down the sexual predator unit and the computer forensics unit might be necessary, but certainly tragic. As for the geniuses who think that you can cut welfare benefits and funnel the money to the SCSO, please learn something before you spout off your opinion. Your ignorance is mind-boggling.

BMW ... these concessions do sound mild, which is why the truth needs to come out. I've heard deputies are being asked to take essentially a 16 percent pay cut between the raise, the benefits, furlough days, vacation, etc. Now, call me stupid, but if I ran a union that negotiated what the deputies get, I'd say layoff before I give back 16 percent that will never come back to the deps, even when the economy improves.

i over heard russ pry talking to county council member about bringing in the guardian angels to run the jail and get rid of the union.

BigTopTommy, You are correct. It's alot bigger than being reported. 16% pay cut, plus 20 furlough days, (they want them to work 20 days without pay), plus they are taking away raises, longevity,holiday and uniform allowance, increased insurance premiums. I'm sure there's even more than that. Alot of these folks have work 15 years to get what they have to just give it up. Even if they give all that up they are still going to lay off those deputies anyway. So why give it up?

No Christmas, er, Holiday Dinner this year....

45 more Summit County families hurt by the mismanagement of others! Absolutley disgusting!

well...keep a lookout for more panhandlers out there with signs that read: "WILL ARREST FOR FOOD"

How about charging Green a reasonable amount for police services. The Sheriff's Dept. gives the City of Green a great deal.

Retired Akron police should not be working now for the county Sheriff. What a rip off to the public.
Layoff those that are collecting retirement benefits, not those who depend on this job for their only income. This is so wrong and Drew Alexander should fess up and let his friends get laid off first. And everyone wonders why people are so critical of government. What's to like?

he bleeds blue, not black and gold.....

It’s high time Representatives of this Representative Republic STOP paying for the more stock dividends (money) Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign, and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly in the wholesale and retail price of EVERY product and service Human Beings use for life and Government needs to build, maintain, and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide government services, and national security.
We, the government, of the people, by the people, for the people, pays for this money; with money derived from wages or independent business profit and gets ONLY product or service!

Gee remember when the government told us all about 10 years ago that NAFTA was going to help our country. Things sure are great now aren't they! Oh yea don't forget the snake in the grass SAWYER who voted for has been appointed as a State Representative. Don't forget to put him back on the street come election time.

get rid of the union and make it work like the private world makes it happen

@Just a Mom -- mismanagement by who? Was anybody crying the blues as the overtime pay was calculated?

these guys are usually at the donut shop or playing around anyways...

Akron cops do the real work

No 7 wrote; SCSD, is so much a joke. Glad I didn't get hired there. So thanks for the favor SCSD.

Actually you're both right.
The Summit County Sheriff's 'Department' is one of many departments that combined w/other Summit County departments such as the County Executive Department and County Auditor's Department, make up Summit County government.
And the Sheriff's office is w/in the Sheriff's Department, as the Auditor's office is.

We need police and fire; cut somewhere else.

"A Retired Cop Who Knows" wrote;
Why is it always incumbant upon the unions to take concessions? The county made this agreement with the FOP...now live up to it! There HAS to be another way to handle this besides layoffs, Drew! Stand up to Russ Pry and the corrupt machine!

There is a way, in fact numerous ways, too many to mention yet not being discussed?
Someone needs to tell the Union Leaders and members that the County Auditor is required to "Certify" the[a annual budget prior to it being both presented to and approved by County Council, as it has been "every" year.
And every year the budget amount approved for the Sheriff's department provides for the deputies wages for 365 days of 2009, nothing less.
What is the significance of a[the 2009 budget being certified and how does it impact union members?
The County Auditor is swearing that he in fact has set aside the approved budget funds for each department that will be distributed over 365 days of 2009, and that there won't be a reason for a layoff's prior to 12/31/09.

PS: Some local politicians are voluntarily waiving receipt of their raise's and returning those funds back into the general fund to prevent lay offs.

Union, non-union members including Administration employee's are giving up their sick day wages or working 4, 10 hour days a week to conserve utility costs, while others are reducing their 40 hour week to 37 hours. All to prevent layoffs and/or loss of public services.

How come we haven't read about any of these offers to prevent layoff's, from both the Administration and/or union members?

@chaos ... thanks for pointing out what the news media left out. A 16 percent pay cut that includes a month furlough (20 working days), raises, etc. Hell, why not work for free? Those are ridiculous concessions that no self-respecting employee anywhere would take.

@outlaw - well said - he bleeds blue - not sure he would bleed for anybody - but himself and his friends - but his loyalty if with his boyz at APD