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Hot-dog vendor wants later hours on Highland Square menu

By Jim Carney
Beacon Journal staff writer

The owner of a mobile, street hot-dog stand that recently set up shop in Akron's Highland Square neighborhood wants to be able to sell dogs till the early morning hours for the late-night bar crowd.

Dave Woods, owner of Davey's Dog House, which began selling hot dogs out of a cart last month along West Market Street, said he would like to see a city law passed this fall that allows street food vendors to stay open until bars close at 3 a.m. in the downtown area extended to include Highland Square.

''We will try to lobby City Hall to get the law changed,'' said Woods, 44, a native of New York City.

Deputy Mayor David A. Lieberth said the vendor law, which allows street sales until 3 a.m., is being tested in the downtown entertainment district.

''It is possible it could be extended to other areas later,'' he said.

Since the law was enacted in November, Lieberth said, no vendor has set up shop late at night downtown.

Normally, vendors are only allowed to sell food on the street in places like Highland Square from 10 a.m. until 11 p.m., said Glenn Stalcup, the city assessor.

The new ordinance ''was thought to be a good idea for the downtown entertainment district,'' Stalcup said.

Akron Councilman James P. Hurley III, D-1, whose ward covers Highland Square, said he would have to research the issue of whether to extend the late-night hours and look into what the ramifications of such a move would be before commenting on whether it would be something he could support.

Woods, who works in the information technology and music production business, said he started the hot-dog business because it is something he knows from living in New York City.

''There were a lot of things from New York I missed,'' he said.

Woods said he would like to expand and get more carts to serve other parts of the city, including downtown Akron and the late-night bar crowd.

Brian Feltner, 26, of Akron, who works with Woods, said he and Woods push the cart three blocks to their spot on West Market Street and are usually open about 12 hours each day.

''We've sold out every day we've come out,'' Feltner said.

The first cart used cost about $2,000, but Feltner said he and Woods would like to find an out-of-work machinist to help them make more carts they can use.

''This is just the start of something big,'' Woods said.

He said that in addition to the hot dogs sold at the cart — one for $2 and three for $5 — the stand offers Akron something else.

''People come through and they feel like they are 'big city' now,'' he said.

 


Jim Carney can be reached at 330-996-3576 or jcarney@thebeaconjournal.com.

Scott Davis enjoys a coney hotdog from a hot dog stand operated by Shannon and David Woods and Brian Feltner in Highland Square. (Paul Tople/Akron Beacon Journal)

The owner of a mobile, street hot-dog stand that recently set up shop in Akron's Highland Square neighborhood wants to be able to sell dogs till the early morning hours for the late-night bar crowd.

Dave Woods, owner of Davey's Dog House, which began selling hot dogs out of a cart last month along West Market Street, said he would like to see a city law passed this fall that allows street food vendors to stay open until bars close at 3 a.m. in the downtown area extended to include Highland Square.

''We will try to lobby City Hall to get the law changed,'' said Woods, 44, a native of New York City.

Deputy Mayor David A. Lieberth said the vendor law, which allows street sales until 3 a.m., is being tested in the downtown entertainment district.

''It is possible it could be extended to other areas later,'' he said.

Since the law was enacted in November, Lieberth said, no vendor has set up shop late at night downtown.

Normally, vendors are only allowed to sell food on the street in places like Highland Square from 10 a.m. until 11 p.m., said Glenn Stalcup, the city assessor.

The new ordinance ''was thought to be a good idea for the downtown entertainment district,'' Stalcup said.

Akron Councilman James P. Hurley III, D-1, whose ward covers Highland Square, said he would have to research the issue of whether to extend the late-night hours and look into what the ramifications of such a move would be before commenting on whether it would be something he could support.

Woods, who works in the information technology and music production business, said he started the hot-dog business because it is something he knows from living in New York City.

''There were a lot of things from New York I missed,'' he said.

Woods said he would like to expand and get more carts to serve other parts of the city, including downtown Akron and the late-night bar crowd.

Brian Feltner, 26, of Akron, who works with Woods, said he and Woods push the cart three blocks to their spot on West Market Street and are usually open about 12 hours each day.

''We've sold out every day we've come out,'' Feltner said.

The first cart used cost about $2,000, but Feltner said he and Woods would like to find an out-of-work machinist to help them make more carts they can use.

''This is just the start of something big,'' Woods said.

He said that in addition to the hot dogs sold at the cart — one for $2 and three for $5 — the stand offers Akron something else.

''People come through and they feel like they are 'big city' now,'' he said.

 


Jim Carney can be reached at 330-996-3576 or jcarney@thebeaconjournal.com.




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TheLurker
Akron, OH

Posted 12:22 PM, 01/07/2010

What a weenie.


Boost2525
Akron, Oh

Posted 12:35 PM, 01/07/2010

"Since the law was enacted in November, Lieberth said, no vendor has set up shop late at night downtown."




Are we supposed to be surprised by this statement? It's FREEZING out at night. Wait until it warms up and you'll see them take advantage of this.


tre607
north canton, OH

Posted 12:37 PM, 01/07/2010

I don't know why he would want to sell hotdogs that late. all he's going to do is get robbed.


Think
Stow, OH

Posted 12:38 PM, 01/07/2010

"Akron Councilman James P. Hurley III, D-1, whose ward covers Highland Square, said he would have to research the issue of whether to extend the late-night hours and look into what the ramifications of such a move would be before commenting on whether it would be something he could support."

We are talking about a hot dog cart. I have conducted research on this issue. I have eaten numerous hot dogs sold by folks operating from carts and found them to be tasty, convenient to access, and filling.


IMHO
akron, oh

Posted 12:38 PM, 01/07/2010

Very funny, Lurker! What a weenie! Me wonders how Dave will make out tomorrow night at his hot dog cart during the 6-12" snowfall.


jenny

Posted 12:46 PM, 01/07/2010

Way to go! I love wieners!


tony

Posted 12:55 PM, 01/07/2010

doesn't the acme store at highland square have a deli?....oh, wait...

what's there to deliberate and research; let the guy stay open as late as he wishes. Another set of eyes in this neighborhood, especially at those hours, can only be a good thing.


The_Original_Jason
Akron, OH

Posted 01:01 PM, 01/07/2010

Why wouldn't the city want vendors out until 3:00? The more people you have out, the less crime you'll see. Heck, pay for this guy's firearms training and CCW.


UrbanRenaissace

Posted 01:06 PM, 01/07/2010

I know this man personally.

Stop the hate, armchair Archie Bunkers.


Steve

Posted 01:30 PM, 01/07/2010

Great, selling hot dogs on the streets of Akron make it feel like a big city. Do any of these "big city" folks think that maybe people like the small town feel. Or that we don't need everything people have in NY.

Hardly anybody drives in NY either, should we get rid of cars and make every body take a cab or bus (and put in subways).

I wish him success in his business, but think him trying to make Akron like NY is silly.


NathanG
Akron, Oh

Posted 01:45 PM, 01/07/2010

Is Highland Square the new downtown of Akron?


MaryAnn
akron, oh

Posted 01:54 PM, 01/07/2010

If this vendor wants to sell hotdogs until 3am, let him. Due to the high crime in the city of Akron, he will change his mind, after he is robbed.


UrbanRenaissace

Posted 02:02 PM, 01/07/2010

Regular cash pickups for the win.

He was a IT guy for the government, MLB, and others. He's far from a dummy.

Good luck to you, Maestro.


UrbanRenaissace

Posted 02:02 PM, 01/07/2010

"an"


HUNTR
akron, oh

Posted 02:03 PM, 01/07/2010

"and" oops


Rumblefish330
Akron, Oh

Posted 02:15 PM, 01/07/2010

Highland Square is a GREAT neighborhood. Im not a fan of hot dogs as a food but think it is awesome that someone has added another business to our little section of Akron. Let him sell his dogs when he wants.


peebs02
Canal Fulton, Oh

Posted 02:47 PM, 01/07/2010

I say let him stay open as late as he wants.What a great idea.Everyone (usually) loves a good dog.and im guessing his are fresh since he sells out all the time.No brainer here.

@Steve.chill out dude!!


member
stow, Oh

Posted 02:58 PM, 01/07/2010

UrbanRenaissace

Posted 02:02 PM, 01/07/2010
He was a IT guy for the government, MLB, and others. He's far from a dummy.


Thanx for the post "UR" but I'm no so sure about your latter statement.

I certainly wish him well but that takes guts to do what he is proposing to do.

How can he reach for his pistol when his hands are pre-occupied with a hotdog, bun and mustard. They will ge the drop on him easily, I think; unless he will put that IT knowledge to use somehow protect himself and his investment.

Nonetheless, I am rooting for him!!!!!


MyersS
Fairlawn, OH

Posted 03:04 PM, 01/07/2010

Where is Loren Eberly on this issue? I need to know how hotdogs and natural law coincide.


UrbanRenaissace

Posted 03:05 PM, 01/07/2010

@HUNTR

"a" and "an" are indefinite articles. "And" is a conjunction.

What was your oops about? Oh, your grammar skills.

Done for today.


deidre
Canton, OH

Posted 03:23 PM, 01/07/2010


Rumblefish: "Im not a fan of hot dogs as a food "??? i don't even think i want to know what you are a fan of hot dogs as.



majorbeefalo
Akron, Oh

Posted 03:26 PM, 01/07/2010

Arent all the fellows coming out of the bars up there already taking an extra weiner home anyways....does this guy make any money?


ZippyEm
Akron, OH

Posted 03:58 PM, 01/07/2010

Dirty-water weenies for everyone!


WSP
AKRON, ohio

Posted 04:15 PM, 01/07/2010

3 am in highland square???
He kinda looks like Clark Kent.
Hopefully he can set up near a phone booth.


vv_dragonbyt3_vv
Tallmadge, OH

Posted 04:17 PM, 01/07/2010

Hey, the guy is an entrepreneur....that is what they do, take risks.

I am sure he already knows about the risks of being out that late, handling cash, and I am sure if he is not afraid to do it, then let him because if he is successful at it, then that's good thing for him, his customers, and the city through sales tax.

And as far as Akron being another NY...ROFLMO!

Maybe in another 100 years.


deidre
Canton, OH

Posted 04:17 PM, 01/07/2010

WSP - good call!!! He really wants to stop the crime - the hot dog thing is just his gimmick!!!!
AKron will be safe!


vv_dragonbyt3_vv
Tallmadge, OH

Posted 04:20 PM, 01/07/2010

Ohhh...and Dave, kudo's to you for wanting to employ an out-of-work Machinist, NOW THAT'S CALLED BUYING AMERICAN!


Jason12
Macedonia, Oh

Posted 04:28 PM, 01/07/2010

Downtown Entertaiment District? Yea right! What a joke. I love it when Akron yokals pretend that their downtown has an entertainment district. Bwaaaaa!!!!


Steve

Posted 05:48 PM, 01/07/2010

peebs,

I don't need to chill out, I'm just tired of people that think when they move somewhere that it needs to have everything they had where they came from. Hot dog vendors somewhere that has a big crowd normally (downtown cleveland when there's a ball game). But in Highland Square, at 3AM, it just sounds foolish. And he sounds like an arrogant New Yorker who wants to turn Akron into "a big city".


Lia

Posted 05:55 PM, 01/07/2010


jpeezy37
akron, Oh

Posted 03:39 PM, 01/07/2010

The next big story in the ABJ! Highland Square Hot Dog Vendor gunned down, and robbed today in the early morning hours! Suspects described as Black males, 5' 8" to 6' tall 180 to 195 pounds wearing dark hoodies and work boots! In a previous article the victim is quoted as saying,''People come through and they feel like they are 'big city' now,'' Ironically he was murdered just like in the "big City"!!
___________________________________________________You need to watch your mouth and your back because what goes around comes around 10 fold and what you are wishing on someone else can just as easily happen to you!!


Grog67
akron, Oh

Posted 06:17 PM, 01/07/2010

if this guy wants to stay outside freezing his weinnie(s) whats wrong with that.....let him stay out till the bars close if he wants to.....


Eagle45
Port Saint Lucie, Fl

Posted 06:20 PM, 01/07/2010

After leaving a bar at 0200hrs in Highland Sq.,the last thing I wanted was a hot dog.I had other plans for my "weiner".
K.Price
Port Saint Lucie,Fla.


pudge1
barberton, oh

Posted 06:48 PM, 01/07/2010

Maybe he should stand out there with a handful of twenties and scream rob me, but I hope he carries a gun to shoot back at the drive bys.


fallentrinity
Akron, Oh

Posted 07:02 PM, 01/07/2010

What on earth are all of you nay-sayers crabbing about??? Who cares if he wants to sell hot dogs and feel like he has a piece of home?? Grow up!!! If you don't like it - do not participate in patronizing him!! I have never heard such childish whining in my life - over hot dogs, no less!! Unbelievable!!! More power to him - at least someone is trying to make his life better by serving the community - more than I can say for most of us.


retlaw in nj
Atlantic City, NJ

Posted 08:09 PM, 01/07/2010

Steve wants his city to have its small town feeling. None of that big city feeling that a hot dog cart might bring. And Steve I see your concerned Akron will be the next New York. I'll make you a deal. Even though I said I have no desire to return to Ohio and you then accused me of bashing it, when Akron is the same as NY, I'll come back just to prove you wrong. But don't hold your breath and I won't either............The Peebs person got it right on....Chill out dude!


Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 08:12 PM, 01/07/2010

Can this be?

Somehow a REAL JOB was created without the aide of Mayor Don making a week-long, taxpayer paid junket to a foreign country or without a few million dollars being added to the bill being left for next 3 generations by President Obama?

Isn't capitalism and private enterprise a wonderful thing!


DragonLady

Posted 08:25 PM, 01/07/2010

Good luck to you guys and stay safe. I'll go try a dog in the Spring. Got sauerkraut & Heinz Ketchup?


bubblehead
Tallmadge, OH

Posted 09:19 PM, 01/07/2010

It's all fun and games until snother vendor sets up shop and someone gets hurt.


grubby
akron, OH

Posted 09:41 PM, 01/07/2010

the comment by the councilman about studying the ramifications of a hot dog cart was just outstanding. Unbelievable. I hope the guy is allowed to sell his dogs.

What was it that helps you sober up, according to the mayor? A glass of water and a big steak? Maybe an all beef hot dog and a can of pop will do the same for H Square peeps


gobbledgu
akron, oh

Posted 10:11 PM, 01/07/2010

The malls have those kiosks on the center of the walks and collect big buck rents. Why not let vendors rent space around Cascade for the office employees to spend their lunch and breaks at. City could charge for permits and licenses while collecting fees for space. Students could walk down between classes and bus patrons could buy while waiting for their bus. Not just hot dogs but K-Bobs, Shaved ice, Funnel cakes, French burnt peanuts, Fruit cups etc. The skies the limit. A win win situation for everyone.Sort of like a street fair but organized. Would actually create some jobs and that's what everybody keeps asking for.


Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 10:18 PM, 01/07/2010

@gobbledgu...

The problem with your 'vision' is it is a detriment to the business men and women who have millions invested in their freestanding restaurants and eateries in downtown.

Would a shopping mall let non-shopowners sell merchandise out of their trunk in the parking lot?

Of course not, and that is what these 'street vendors' would be doing to the restaurateurs.


Jabarten
Seminole, FL

Posted 10:27 PM, 01/07/2010

It's a free market isn't it....let him do it.

Mind you, I will have been in bed for quite a few hours when he wants to close.....


powerprober
N. royalton, Oh

Posted 10:53 PM, 01/07/2010

Hot dogs beer = methane gas overload.
At least Akron can get the same smell as NY.


jpeezy37
akron, Oh

Posted 11:10 PM, 01/07/2010

@ lia
need to watch your mouth and your back because what goes around comes around 10 fold and what you are wishing on someone else can just as easily happen to you!!

I'm born and raised in Crakron Ohio. Ive been robbed stabbed, shot, and beaten! so if you live in Akron watch your back! Mine is just fine I give as good as I get!!
That being said, now that its posted in the paper, and online, some guy who wants to show us how they do things in the big city, by running around with a box full of money till 3 or 4 in the morning!!! Hey some of these thugs do read, and some of them have been known to use a computer!


thegrassisgreener
kent, oh

Posted 11:23 PM, 01/07/2010

Yeah, like who cares if he wants to sell some hot dogs, get over it.


grubby
akron, OH

Posted 01:14 AM, 01/08/2010

"Do you have a license to sell hot dogs?" Anybody else say that to a person with their pants zipper down? Seems like "barn door's open" is way more common.


Traditionalist
Tallmadge, Oh

Posted 08:24 AM, 01/08/2010

Aren't weiners flying in every direction in Highland Square every day and night???


alana890
akron , oh

Posted 10:43 AM, 01/08/2010

FTW way to go.


bubblehead
Tallmadge, OH

Posted 10:54 AM, 01/08/2010

They're not flying in my direction, Traditionalist.


Rico Suave
Norka, Oh

Posted 11:46 AM, 01/08/2010

What are hotdogs made of anyway?


MyersS
Fairlawn, OH

Posted 12:00 PM, 01/08/2010

@gobbledegu

There are already street vendors in cascade plaza. Street Treats (now in a store front on Main) started out as a street vendor there.


Reality 2 electric bogaloo
Akron, Oh

Posted 01:18 PM, 01/08/2010

Somebody let the deputy Mayor know there is a guy that sells fantastic sandwiches right on the corner of Main and Exchange downtown until 3am most weekend nights.

Not that I am saying he should know about every little street vendor in Akron. But that ordinance is being utilized and successfully as well.

just saying...


Cait
Akron, OH

Posted 04:13 PM, 01/08/2010

let him do it, but as far as saying it will make us small town foke feel big city, man I hate that. It makes people in Akron sound bodunk.


Slovensko
Canton, OH

Posted 06:48 PM, 01/08/2010

He better start strappin'. . . .


Thunder31
Sin City, Oh

Posted 08:41 PM, 01/08/2010

I think it is a great idea!


A Voice
Akron, , OH

Posted 08:52 PM, 01/08/2010

Can't sell em in NY ....y- not here?/


htlong
mayberry, oh

Posted 07:21 AM, 01/09/2010

I agree HS has turned in to Akron's Weiner central...flaming wieners that is......but I may be wrong......


hooch
naples, fl

Posted 10:31 AM, 01/09/2010

Chittlens and collard greens would be a bigger success. With some corn bread.














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