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Ohio elections chief appeals court ruling

By Associated Press

COLUMBUS: Ohio's top elections chief has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene in a dispute over whether the state is required to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility, a spokesman for her office said Thursday.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, filed an appeal the high court late Wednesday, said spokesman Jeff Ortega.

On Tuesday, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati sided with the Ohio Republican Party and ordered Brunner to set up a system that provides names of newly registered voters whose driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers don't match records in other government databases.

The GOP contends the information for counties will help prevent fraud.

At least 200,000 newly registered voters have mismatched data, according to an initial review by Brunner's office.

Brunner's office said Wednesday that she would comply with the lower court's ruling. Ortega said the office would release a statement later Thursday on why she chose to file an appeal.

Brunner has called the issue a veiled attempt at disenfranchising voters and said other checks exist to help determine eligibility.

Ohio Republicans issued a statement calling the situation a shameful mess and criticized her for initially saying she would comply with the earlier court ruling.

About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January, with many doing so before the contested Democratic presidential primary election between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton in March.

COLUMBUS: Ohio's top elections chief has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene in a dispute over whether the state is required to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility, a spokesman for her office said Thursday.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, filed an appeal the high court late Wednesday, said spokesman Jeff Ortega.

On Tuesday, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati sided with the Ohio Republican Party and ordered Brunner to set up a system that provides names of newly registered voters whose driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers don't match records in other government databases.

The GOP contends the information for counties will help prevent fraud.

At least 200,000 newly registered voters have mismatched data, according to an initial review by Brunner's office.

Brunner's office said Wednesday that she would comply with the lower court's ruling. Ortega said the office would release a statement later Thursday on why she chose to file an appeal.

Brunner has called the issue a veiled attempt at disenfranchising voters and said other checks exist to help determine eligibility.

Ohio Republicans issued a statement calling the situation a shameful mess and criticized her for initially saying she would comply with the earlier court ruling.

About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January, with many doing so before the contested Democratic presidential primary election between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton in March.



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Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 09:10 AM, 10/16/2008

It's shameful Jennifer Brunner's office admits that nearly 1 of 3 (or nearly 200,000) of the "new" voter registrations don't match BMV or Social Security records but she is FIGHTING to not provide that information to the county Boards of Election.

Read the Associated Press story:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1


derrekmichigan

Posted 10:15 AM, 10/16/2008

It is about time. This should have been done a week ago.. The Only way that McCain can lose this election is in Ohio. And if Borack Hussein Obama Wins do to Ohio, there will be a revolution unless it is lawfully corrected.


derrekmichigan

Posted 10:18 AM, 10/16/2008

It is about time. This should have been done a week ago.. The Only way that McCain can lose this election is in Ohio. And if Borack Hussein Obama Wins do to Ohio, there will be a revolution unless it is lawfully corrected.


Arnie J. Rimmer

Posted 10:20 AM, 10/16/2008

It's high time something was done about this rampant voter fraud. With elections coming down to hundreds or even dozens of votes it is critical that our democratic process be protected. The Dems love to use the term disenfranchisement - but what is dilution of real votes by fraudulent ones? Is that not disenfranchisement? The Dems are only crying about this as these fraudulent Obama/ACORN type registrations lean 99.9% Democrat.


geesfarm

Posted 10:22 AM, 10/16/2008

IT worked in Washington. They held an election and had a two re-counts. The Republican candidate won. In the third re-count they finally got enough votes for the democrat, and declared the process over. Widespread voter fraud worked here, it was the test case. Good luck Ohio, but I don't hold much hope that there will ever be another election with a fair outcome.


MDWhite

Posted 10:28 AM, 10/16/2008

"Brunner has called the issue a veiled attempt at disenfranchising voters." What unmitigated nerve. I swear, everytime I hear a dem apologist open his/her mouth, I get acid reflux.


jpjester

Posted 10:29 AM, 10/16/2008

I am glad she is pursuing this. When did having your name exactly match you social security record or have you address exactly match your drivers license become a requirement to vote?

Actually, when did having a social security account or drivers license become a requirement to vote?


ddobbins

Posted 10:34 AM, 10/16/2008

What is wrong with you people? Registration is NOT voter fraud. Voter fraud is a crime and should be punished, but allowing people to register is good for a democracy. Why are you so desperate to stop people from voting? Don't you think that many new Republicans have registered for this election too? I just recently moved and if my registration is thrown out and I am prevented from voting I will be mad as hell.


DanRay

Posted 10:34 AM, 10/16/2008

Secretary Brunner ought to be instructed to proceed in accordance with the ruling of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals while she proceeds with her appeal to SCOTUS. Should she choose not to, the state legislature should contemplate commencement of impeachment procedings. Should that fail, the good people of Ohio should unelect the gentlelady at the earliest possible opportunity.


derrekmichigan

Posted 10:34 AM, 10/16/2008

REQUIRMENT TO VOTE


derrekmichigan

Posted 10:36 AM, 10/16/2008

REQUIREMENT TO VOTE.. Are your Kidding me? If it was up to Borack Obama, he would have people vote for him as many times as they could... Good God. What is happening to this country that people would believe it is ok not to document people voting is NUTS!


derrekmichigan

Posted 10:39 AM, 10/16/2008

O N E . P E R S O N > O N E . V O T E


RON

Posted 10:39 AM, 10/16/2008

Jonathon," Actually, when did having a social security account or drivers license become a requirement to vote?"

Yeah! Why shouldn't felons and illegals vote - they get all the other benefits.


Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 10:41 AM, 10/16/2008

"Actually, when did having a social security account or drivers license become a requirement to vote?"

They didn't, but your ability to PROVE that you:
1) Are who you say you are
2) Live where you say you live
3) Aren't registered somewhere else
are key to a fair election based on the premise of "one person, one vote".

A mis-match in BMV or SSA records does NOT disqualify a registration. It flags a registration for FURTHER RESEARCH to ensure the application is legitimate and allows the registrant to clear up the matter.

Just like the fact that someone who isn't speeding shouldn't worry when the police officer is running radar, any legitimate person submitting a voter registration shouldn't fear the review of the validity of their application.


jwmellott

Posted 10:42 AM, 10/16/2008

Sorry, Jenny.
The Supreme Court isn't going to help you and Barry steal the election. Try again in 4 years. The court might be more friendly by then.


shutchcroft

Posted 10:48 AM, 10/16/2008

Registration fraud and voter fraud are two different things. In many states registrations forms must be turned in even if some homelss guy clearly made up names just to get more money when working for ACORN. Fraudulent registrations do note equal fraudulent votes. In this particular instance Brunner's office had already flagged the fraudulent registrations to help move the process along. Do you actually think that because someone wrote "Mickey Mouse" on a registration that Mickey will actually show up and be permitted to vote? The whole thing is rediculous. It is a plan by the republican party to either a) discourage people from voting. b) republicans are planning to contest the election after their inevitable defeat and use ACORN as "proof" of voting shenanigans. or c) it is a cover to purge the rolls as was done in 2004. The only people who actually perpetrate actual VOTE fraud are republicans. They can not hold power any other way. The phony outrage towards ACORN is just a smokescreen. If it isn't...say hello to Mickey and Tony Romo for me when they show up to vote.


Read The Constitution

Posted 10:49 AM, 10/16/2008

Let's go back to the good ole' days when you had to be a landowner or serving in the military to be eligible to vote. What that did was give a voice to people that actually contribute something to the country. That would make things much easier to track and eliminate voter fraud all together. Generally speaking, people that don't own land don't pay taxes so why should they hava a say in how we are governed?


David

Posted 10:51 AM, 10/16/2008

"It is about time. This should have been done a week ago.. The Only way that McCain can lose this election is in Ohio. And if Borack Hussein Obama Wins do to Ohio, there will be a revolution unless it is lawfully corrected."

No, actually there are several dozen different scenarios in which McCain can lose this election with the electoral vote. The odds he will are overwhelming.


Joe Momma

Posted 10:51 AM, 10/16/2008

This Presidential Election is beginning to remind me of the 2000 election!


lwayne

Posted 10:52 AM, 10/16/2008

Just a typical gang member. All for the gang. Some lower social cultures have the Crips and Bloods, this is the Dems and Reps. Just a gang member giving all for the gang.


derrekmichigan

Posted 10:57 AM, 10/16/2008

A . P L A N . B Y . W H O ? Give me a break. If any one is trying to eliminate votes it is Obama. He trying to show up all the new voter registration numbers using his 800 million that he gave to ACORN to register as many people as many times as he can.. This is to try to through the elusion out to republicans that they do not have a chance because all these new voters that are pro Obama are going to nix their vote. So why should republicans even show up to vote if they believe that Obama is going to win anyway do to the overwhelming amount new voters that are going to elect Obama....it is not right, and these people should be prosecuted,....,,,.


jamie

Posted 10:58 AM, 10/16/2008

I'M TIRED OF THIS "VOTER DISENFRANCHISED" CRAP.

IT'S FRAUD, LADY! THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PREVENT YOUR PARTY FROM COMMITTING VOTER FRAUD!!


MajorJohnson

Posted 11:04 AM, 10/16/2008

Jonathon,"Actually, when did having a social security account or drivers license become a requirement to vote?"

Yeah, why shouldn't I be able to register and vote as Johnathon and myself too? Oh, you mean you wanted your vote Johnathon? Guess you better beat me to the polls then, cause once I've cast your vote they'll mark out your name, then you get to cast a contested provisional ballot and mine will count.


shutchcroft

Posted 11:06 AM, 10/16/2008

D

Remember the Karl Rove initiated attorney firing scandal. It was all about voter fraud. The attorney's that were fired would not bring phony prosecutions against groups like ACORN. Because there is no need to prosecute them. For what? complying with the law after false registrations were discovered. And the Obama campaign did not give ACORN 800 million. They gave $832,000 to several different voting advocate groups, $32,000 of which did go to ACORN. The facts are not on your side. But when has that ever stopped a republican.


Nadine

Posted 11:08 AM, 10/16/2008

at a recent neighborhood meeting a man wearing an obama shirt discussed with neighborhood reps on how they can get homeless people registered since it is ok for them to use the intersection they may be sleeping at that night. They will bring a bus and get them to the polls to vote and they won't have to show id that way. This is shameful and embarrasing.


khpdave

Posted 11:09 AM, 10/16/2008

As a lifelong Independent (I know, some read that as being a Republican in sheep's clothing and others consider us closet Democrats), my political view is pretty clear here on the 50 yard line.

Although I've become somewhat desensitized by both major parties increasing manipulation of democratic system designed to stand on its own, I'm facing a new experience in this election cycle.

In 40 years of voting, I've gathered the available FACTS about political choices to base my decisions on and, in the absence of facts, went with my gut. This year however, I'm considered uninformed by those whose ideology I don't agree with. These are the zealots (primarily, but not exclusively, the left-fringe) who want to take my hand and spoon-feed me a carefully selected diet instead of a balanced meal.

To those who value folks like me only for our registration cards, don't be entirely shocked if a quiet revolution takes place in voting booths across America in November.


roger

Posted 11:10 AM, 10/16/2008

JOHN is EXACTLY RIGHT. THANKYOU!


mike murphy

Posted 11:11 AM, 10/16/2008

where was all this outrage about one person = one vote in 2000 when you fought to stop any recount of the vote when it favored Bush (the worst pres. ever)! Where was all this outrage when Blackwell and the GOP operatives prevented people from being allowed to vote by caging voters in our great state and prevented thousands from legally voting in areas that would have voted for Kerry and provided him with the victory. When it comes to cheating and hypocrisy you republicans are laughable. That is why no one really cares anymore what you think or why your arguments are falling flat in Ohio and in the MSM. Why all the outrage now when you know you are going to lose? You see, the problem with your outrage is it is viewed as inauthentic. Why outrage now, and not then? Exactly. That is why even if McCain wins Ohio, it will only bring him to about 190 electoral votes. Obama will win this in a landslide by winning state, after state, after state, due to the failed policies of Republicans and John McGoo's desire to continue these failed policies. Get used to Democrat's rule for , say, about the next 50 years!


zicatela

Posted 11:12 AM, 10/16/2008

If the Republicans don't like the rules in Ohio, they had four years since the last presidential election to change them.

Trying to change the rules in the middle of an election is simply an attempt at voter suppression.

They should be time-barred from any attempt to change any election/registration rules.


MSSpahr

Posted 11:14 AM, 10/16/2008

I'd think everyone would want a fair election. One qualified person, one vote. A qualified person is 18 or older, a citizen of the US and is not a felon.

A qualified person is NEVER entitled to two votes. Brunner doesn't seem to get that. She has appealed to the SCOTUS in order to delay the process even further and, thereby, give the advantage of those 200,000 unqualified voters to Barack Hussein Obama.


Nancy Jo

Posted 11:14 AM, 10/16/2008

Everyone has to produce ID to get food stamps, cash assistance, WIC, to purchase cigarettes or alcohol, get a driver's license, join Blockbuster, register for college, get a charge card, get a home loan, or to use a computer in the coffee shop sometimes. Because of the high number of voter registrations that are turning out to be duplicates or even fraudulent, it makes sense to require a person to prove who they are and if they are voting in the right district. The Democrats should be happy to help their supporters to register and vote legally. This is not disenfranchising anyone. It's just following the law. If they wanted the law changed, this should have been done a year ago.


ChuckySchmucky

Posted 11:15 AM, 10/16/2008

Posted by Jonathan 07:29 AM, 10/16/2008...

"I am glad she is pursuing this. When did having your name exactly match you social security record or have you address exactly match your drivers license become a requirement to vote? Actually, when did having a social security account or drivers license become a requirement to vote?"

Yeah, and why should people have to be alive to have their vote counted? And why should somebody have to be 18 years old? And why shouldn't ACORN'S recruits be allowed to vote dozens of times? Affirmative action in voting, if you will.

I'm with you, Jonathon. Who cares about fair elections?


shutchcroft

Posted 11:16 AM, 10/16/2008

Nadine

Why do you hate homeless guys so much? Even if what you say is true. Do you really think the homeless guy vote is going to be the factor that swings the election away from the republicans?


mike in SC

Posted 11:18 AM, 10/16/2008

I've flown several times in the past month. Always have to produce a photo ID to prove I am who I claim to be. What is so horrible about requiring ID's to vote? Not register, VOTE. I guess the dems think that would discriminate against dead people's and cartoon character's right to vote.


student

Posted 11:19 AM, 10/16/2008

The Ohio Secretary of State is a completely unethical person who is doing everything she can to delay and prevent any detection or prevention of election fraud on a massive scale. ACORN has registered 1.5M people with mass fraud evident in 11 states and 12 employees already pleading guilty. The idiots like Scott above who attempt to equivocate between registration fraud and election fraud are missing both the point that registration fraud is illegal and the fact that the registration fraud is a pre-requisite to election fraud. Obama with a history as General Counsel for ACORN and having fed $800,000 into them through a shell company is reflects a deliberate attempt to steal the election in the battleground states. Slimy is as slimy does. Although with the emergence of the Robin Hood message in recent days the reality of Obama's intentions as a re-distributor, stealing from the producers to buy a constituency of government suplicants, is becoming more clear - the reality is that behind the smiling face is a philosophy that has generated poverty and despair over and over again. If a majority of Americans are foolish enough to vote for Obama/Pelosi/Reid they will get the government they deserve.


Clemmons

Posted 11:24 AM, 10/16/2008

The overriding factor in this election is security... The next president must be ready to assume command and lead immediately. He will be tested by our enemies on this soil without delay. Say all you want about the economy, we better keep our eye on the ball. " Country First" Support John McCain


Urbusted

Posted 11:26 AM, 10/16/2008

Dem's have proven time and time again that "the end justifies the means." They will lie, cheat and steal in every aspect of life to get what they want.

I use to work for the Government and I saw this first hand and was even personally a victim on some occasions.

The lack of personal honesty and integrity is absolutely SHOCKING!!! They have no consciences or as some wood say "soul". They are like Blood Thirsty Sharks when they see that their sick, convoluted ways are finding any success.

As a group of people they are among some of the most sick and deranged on the planet. Yes even among this group you may find a misguided person that is descent and honest and in time they will mature and escape!


happy2behere

Posted 11:28 AM, 10/16/2008

And you need ID to board a plane. I want my real vote to count more than a fake vote. Fake votes dilute my real vote - even if we are on the same side. It's the differece between reality and illusion. Don't we all want to deal in reality?


mike murphy

Posted 11:31 AM, 10/16/2008

awww, is james gonna cry?

poor baby. he can't handle the thought of Dems ruling thihs country for the next century!!! you poor republicans have no one to blame but yourselves. oh yeah, and bush, and de lay, bob ney, etc., ad infinitum!!!

yes. go dems!!!


khpdave

Posted 11:31 AM, 10/16/2008

Posted by Chris 08:12 AM, 10/16/2008:

"If the Republicans don't like the
rules in Ohio, they had four years
since the last presidential election
to change them.

Trying to change the rules in the
middle of an election is simply an
attempt at voter suppression.

They should be time-barred from any
attempt to change any election/
registration rules."

==============================================

Chris,

What I'm generally seeing in these posts are most of us demanding our elected officials HONOR THE RULES that are in place.

I don't buy the argument that most of the people registering more than once are doing so for free cigaretts - sorry.


Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 11:31 AM, 10/16/2008

Scott...

You say "Fraudulent registrations do note equal fraudulent votes", but I guess you missed the following story covered by multiple media outlets (but somehow ignored by the ABJ).

Darnell Nash who is one of the poster children for the ACORN fraud showed up for early voting in Cuyahoga County on September 30, then violated Federal election law by registering again using someone else's address then casting a FRAUDULENT absentee ballot.

Brunner's position as Secretary of State requires her to protect the integrity of the election process and she is coming no where near the standard to which the job requires.


Jeff

Posted 11:32 AM, 10/16/2008

Democrats have some nerve to talk about disenfranchising voters after their attempt at blocking the votes of soldiers in 2000. You always know what crooked stuff the Dems are up to because they claim the Republicans are doing it in case they get caught. So if the Republicans cry foul they think people will assume they're trying to get even. The Dems really need to get past their jr. high tactics. But why would they when so many people fall for their lies?


simplyjonathons

Posted 11:32 AM, 10/16/2008

I expect nothing less from a party that cannot win on the field of ideas. Whenever the liberals are challanged on the field of ideas, they always fall back on vitriolic rhetoric in leu of substantive agruments.
On this issue one needs to look no further then the 2000/2004 elections to recognize the pattern the Democrats have established. They have openly targeted and discussed the possibilty of voter fraud in a specific state in an attempt to steal the election.
In 2000, it was Florida, in particular the butterfly ballot used in Palm Beach county ( also in Cook County, IL)and presented and approved by the Democrat Supervisor of Elections for Palm Beach County. Gores co-chair a Daley from Cook County( interseting) had phone banks set up in Texas which were then used to call elderly registered Democrat voters in Palm Beach County before the polls were closed. These calls were to inform them they might have mivoted due to the ballot they voted with. If that is not enough, the Gore campaign sent lawyers to every Florida county an blocked ALL overseas milltary absentee ballots from being couinted. Yes Al Gore did everything he could to make sure "EVERY VOTE COUNTS", as long as they were Democrat votes.
In 2004, Ohio was the target. We already know what fabrications the Democrat's did there in an attempt to steal the state. It was not until this year that Sen. Kerry admitted before the audience at The University of FLorida, "The votes weren't there. We simply did not have enough votes (in Ohio), which is why we didn't fight it"
This year the Demcrats are again attempting to steal what they cannot win legally.


ras60

Posted 11:32 AM, 10/16/2008

Congratulations, Democrats. You're about to buy yourselves an election.


derrekmichigan

Posted 11:33 AM, 10/16/2008

Yes, You are right. I stand Corrected. ACORN recieved 800 Thousand from Obama, Not 800 Million. Thank you for correcting that little Tid-Bit. Glad You Stand For 1 Person > 5 votes. Glad to see you Libs out here helping correct all these issues that stand in the way of getting you Mesiah Borat Hussein 0-Bama Elected by stealing the election.

You are a Typical Elitist. The problem with the elitist is that they are usually well educated from a popular university like Harvard or the like. But because they are educated from these schools does not make them any better at making decisions than a person say from a state university. Their education may provide them a depth of ideas and history, but that does not guarantee that they will make the right decision. That is because most or even all of these universities are run by other elitists that have liberal concepts.


derrekmichigan

Posted 11:33 AM, 10/16/2008

Scott

Yes, You are right. I stand Corrected. ACORN recieved 800 Thousand from Obama, Not 800 Million. Thank you for correcting that little Tid-Bit. Glad You Stand For 1 Person > 5 votes. Glad to see you Libs out here helping correct all these issues that stand in the way of getting you Mesiah Borat Hussein 0-Bama Elected by stealing the election.

You are a Typical Elitist. The problem with the elitist is that they are usually well educated from a popular university like Harvard or the like. But because they are educated from these schools does not make them any better at making decisions than a person say from a state university. Their education may provide them a depth of ideas and history, but that does not guarantee that they will make the right decision. That is because most or even all of these universities are run by other elitists that have liberal concepts.


happy2behere

Posted 11:34 AM, 10/16/2008

Someone forgot to read the article. Most of the new voters in question were registered recently. Kinda tough for the Repubs to predict the future, or haven't you noticed?


Nobama08

Posted 11:34 AM, 10/16/2008

You gotta wonder why, if the Obama people are so convinced their boy is going to win, they have to resort to voter fraud. ACORN is obviously a branch of the Democratic party.
Community organizers? We used to call them "gangstas."
We might be looking at another supreme court decision to judge this election.


shutchcroft

Posted 11:39 AM, 10/16/2008

student

I take offense to your remarks. However, it is expected that a republican would take the low road of personal insults followed by innacurate statements. Please, tell me how a fake person, or a dead person, or cartoon character can vote even if they are registered. It can't happen. Or I should say it doesn't happen. How can they vote if they are dead or don't exist? Tell you what. Go talk to all of your dead, nonexistent, cartoon character friends and ask them how they are planning to steal the election. I would be interested to find out. Do you really think "Mickey Mouse" would vote for Obama? After all he is the head of a corporate empire and he might not like paying more taxes on his dividend payouts.


Nobama08

Posted 11:40 AM, 10/16/2008

Looks like the Obama "truth detectors" complained and had the comments shut down.


mike murphy

Posted 11:40 AM, 10/16/2008

Peter said:

"You gotta wonder why, if the Obama people are so convinced their boy is going to win, they have to resort to voter fraud. ACORN is obviously a branch of the Democratic party.
Community organizers? We used to call them "gangstas."
-----------------------------------------------------

Pretty soon you will call them "Mr. President"


derrekmichigan

Posted 11:44 AM, 10/16/2008

OK I regress fellow GOP’s. I hate to be a little overconfident, but don’t believe the ridicules polls you are seeing out there. Let’s not buy into the MoveOn.Org crowd here…… Instead lets CELEBRATE…. You know the Race is ours,, .. So to H e l l with them,,,,.. They are just on here working hard so they don’t have a LANDSLIDE SHOVED up their You Know Whats….

Lets just keep up the work we are doing and get out the message. Then on the 4th, the will here Flyover Country like they never have before by all of us getting out there and casting our one vote. Know this. We are 51 percent, They are only 49.


shutchcroft

Posted 11:45 AM, 10/16/2008

Overtaxed Voter

They caught the guy didn't they. You just proved my point. Fraudulent registrations set off red flags and make it so the fraudulent individual can't vote.


tajima7

Posted 11:46 AM, 10/16/2008

I find it interesting the amount of personal information I had to give just to register to make this comment. Yet, many of you, including many on the staff of the Akron Beacon want zero verification voting. Why is that?


Radicalconservative

Posted 11:49 AM, 10/16/2008

We had a war over no taxation without representation. How about a new revolution: NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION. If you do not pay federal income tax, then you have no say in government. That alows those 55% of us who actually PAY taxes to determine our government. The other 45% who pay no taxes, but usually reap most of the benefits from government handouts, will have no say - unless they get better jobs and start paying taxes. Actually - a flat tax of 10% across the board for EVERYONE would change the way this country functions.


derrekmichigan

Posted 11:52 AM, 10/16/2008

Hey Mike.

No self respecting FlyOver Country Conservative would vote EVER vote for him…… Please don’t insult my intelligence…,,,Intelligence… What a great Word… You see “stupidly arrogant East-West Coast Elitist” People… You libs, as I like to call you ,seem to think that only someone who has graduated from an Ivy League College can call themselves intelligent. You are wrong. That is called “Book Smart” ..,, Believe me, I have worked in the engineering field for over 20 years… I Know Many Smart People….. But they are not all Intelligent.

You People on the left think you have a God Given Right to run This Great Country. It is very interesting that your love for your selves and your intellectually LEFT ilk is so inert that Obama Himself could tell you he is a Muslim Fundamentalist and you would think it was ok as long as he graduated from Harvard he should be President.


khpdave

Posted 11:55 AM, 10/16/2008

Allow me throw out a crazy idea here Scott:

Let's say a hypothetical group of community organizers wanted to ... oh, I don't know ... sway a presidential election using the time-tested method of Voting Fraud (which could involve one person voting more than one time). It's possible - and I know this is really out there - they could report the obvious Mickey Mouse & Donald Duck registration descrepincies to so overwhelm the elections boards in hopes that the less obvious fraudulent registrants can get a few extra votes each.

I realize this is purely fiction but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.


springfield7

Posted 11:56 AM, 10/16/2008

sign this petition to require a photo id to vote in this election:

http://www.rallycongress.com/voterid/1326/emergency-voter-identification/


shutchcroft

Posted 12:01 PM, 10/16/2008

D

No one has to prove you are an ill-informed baffoon. You pretty much do the job on your own. The right says dems are elitist and smart. so why are you so worried about low income and homeless guys voting? Accoarding to your faulty logic wouldn't they vote republican since they are not well educated elitists?

BAA-ZING!


Glubber

Posted 12:01 PM, 10/16/2008

Here is the thing I don't understand. Democrats lament that Republicans are trying to SUPPRESS voter turnout. And that cry is about WHAT?

It is about showing a PICTURE ID when you vote! I kid you not!

I had a liberal friend when I asked him WHY Democrats are opposed to this, and he said, "They do not!" Then I showed him the stories where it even went to the Supreme Court, with DEMOCRATS complaining that showing picture ID was racist and oppressive. The Supreme Court sided with showing the Picture ID.

But this friend, just huffed, and didn't believe it!


cliff claven

Posted 12:04 PM, 10/16/2008

You better get this Acorn Scandal under control, or the entire country will be in an uproar...


Urbusted

Posted 12:08 PM, 10/16/2008

Hey Mike,

Bush has more honor and integrity in the tip of his little finger than the entire democratic party and its mindless servants.

It is apparent that the dem's true desire is to turn the USA into ANOTHER SOCIALIST SOCIETY. What you don't realize is that once you have achieved that goal your reason for living will be gone. You won't have corporations to blame for your ills. You won't have opposing points of view to rail against. You will live in the same box that everyone else lives in, you will all be dressed the same, you will all eat the same food (like it or not), you will all do the same job and so on and so on.

What a wonderful life to look forward to. Don't forget, once you have achieved that status in life if you complain then, you will suddenly disappear.

What a wonderful future for mankind.


Kurt

Posted 12:10 PM, 10/16/2008

Scott,

How do you explain Darnell Nash? I guess you don't want to. Why, too inconvenient? He's just the one who got caught! How many others are doing this and not getting caught?

In order to have a clean election, we need to verify these people.




Posted 12:10 PM, 10/16/2008

As a matter of fact EVERYONE should be verified.


apttitle

Posted 12:17 PM, 10/16/2008

I don't know about you guys, but when I go vote they check my ID to make sure I am who I say I am. Consider this, there aren't too many people running around out there with IDs that read Mickey Mouse?

The truth about ACRON is that it awards its employees for getting more voters registered. Its not the organization that falsified this info, its the employees. They're paid based upon the returns they turn in.


occams.gun

Posted 12:17 PM, 10/16/2008

Several people have pointed out that registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud and, to some extent, that is true. Just because a there is an illegal registration does not mean there will be an illegal vote. However, registration fraud is a form of voter fraud. Many vote fraud schemes are based on first being able to get an unqualified person registered. There are additional hurdles to actually casting a vote but in many districts subsequent safeguards are astoundingly lax.

Someone mentioned above that no one should be afraid that a Mickey Mouse gets to vote. That is just stupid. If Mickey Mouse is registered and a Mr. Mickey Mouse walks up to vote and has sufficient identification (and in some districts this could be and electric bill mail to the correct address with Mickey Mouse as the name) then Mickey Mouse will indeed get to vote. Why not?

In addition, in many voting districts (Chicago comes to mind) they have had the embarrassing situation that more people voted in the district than were actually registered in the district. Clearly voter fraud occurred in these districts. Huge 'get out the vote' efforts, even with large numbers of clearly invalid registrations, mask other forms of voter fraud.

The bottom line is... voter registration fraud IS voter fraud.


Sherry

Posted 12:18 PM, 10/16/2008

Where I live in Ohio we are required to produce a valid ID in order to be allowed to vote. Jennifer Brunner is nothing but an embarrassment to the great state of Ohio. She is getting to have quite a history in these courts. If she refuses to comply with the courts then she has disenfranchized the voters who are voting by the rules and providing the valid ID. Whether you are a republican or a democrat we need to do everything we can to keep the vote fair and honest.


Mize

Posted 12:24 PM, 10/16/2008

Did everyone forget that you have to present a valid government-issued ID to vote in Ohio? Nobody has overturned that. Any "suspect" registrants still have to show valid ID to vote.

As for registration data matching BMV, if you ask three people to enter a 9 digit number somewhere north of 25% will make a mistake. Most of the mismatches targeted in this voter purge are going to be clerical. Why not rely on the government issued IDs at the poling place? Are these no longer valid? Should a cop who pulls someone over compare that ID data with social security too to make sure the speeder isn't really a domestic insurgent?

This is just an attempt by the GOP to use clerical errors (intentional?) to purge valid voters. It's shameful.


MICKEYMOUSE

Posted 12:24 PM, 10/16/2008

It would appear that you need not be an actual person to post comments - it would be nice to think that you need to do more than this to actually vote.
-Steamboat Willie


Mize

Posted 12:26 PM, 10/16/2008

The idea that everyone should be verified is right - that's why you have to bring ID - to verify! And why are people who registered before this year being exempted by the GOP's lawsuit? Shouldn't they have the same verification process applied to them?


MICKEYMOUSE

Posted 12:32 PM, 10/16/2008

Gentlemen:
I hope this is the "report abuse section" and not the comment senction:

I wanted to report abuse of the system, by myself.
Mickey Mouse does not exist, at least not as a real person, but certainly as an industry leader and Amercian Icon.

The 1928 birthdate is, however, accurate.

MICKEYMOUSE@voterfraud.com, as far as I know is not a real address - just used to test the ability to register and comment.

Please delete the user Mickey with this registration - thanks.


shoals

Posted 12:36 PM, 10/16/2008

What a pity that the Liberals/Dems have raised self delusion to such a fine art. Do you check under your bed each night to make sure the bogeyman isn't there.
Saying fraudelent registration does not equal voting fraud is ridiculously transparent. When do you stop someone from committing "voting fraud"???
Talk about closing the gate after the horse (donkey!!!) gets out is not safeguarding the right to vote


Laura

Posted 12:37 PM, 10/16/2008

Can Mickey Mouse really vote?
Scott,
Fraudulent registrations can produce a certain amount of fraudulent ballots. What happens to those "unused" ballots that "Mickey Mouse" doesn't show up to vote with? They become available to unscrupulous to poll workers that simply mark them how they wish and then include them with the legitimate ballots.
Could any of those poll workers be associated with ACORN?


derrekmichigan

Posted 12:44 PM, 10/16/2008


H E Y . S C O T T !


I typed up 3 comments to you. None of them are posted here...

Are you S C O T T the moderator


derrekmichigan

Posted 12:45 PM, 10/16/2008

H E Y . S C O T T !
LISTEN YOU LEFT WING GARBAGE. YOU LEFT WING FREAKS WILL NEVER RUN THIS COUNTRY.....GOT IT!!!!..........WE HERE IN FLYOVER COUNTRY have had ENOUGH…

We’ve had ENOUGH Of you Cheating Liberals that think that since you can win an election on Ideas, You will steal it by poring close to a million dollars into Left Wing Groups that are trying to register everyone from Edi Amine to Hugo Chavez to try to throw of republican voters by making them think that McCain has no chance to win this election.


TerryMars2

Posted 12:47 PM, 10/16/2008

I'm sure the Republicans have already programmed the Diebold voting machines to flip votes from Democratics to Republicans to more than compensate if there is any voter fraud. If not, they can always jam the phone lines for the Democrats they way they do in New England. The devious Republicans want to battle the election to a gray area and they have chosen Ohio, hoping their freak show will become the next administration.


Drock

Posted 12:49 PM, 10/16/2008

H E Y . S C O T T !
LISTEN YOU LEFT WING GARBAGE. You want to continue the name calling? LISTEN, YOU LEFT WING FREAKS WILL NEVER RUN THIS COUNTRY.....GOT IT!!!!..........WE HERE IN FLYOVER COUNTRY have had ENOUGH…

We’ve had ENOUGH Of you Cheating Liberals that think that since you can win an election on Ideas, You will steal it by poring close to a million dollars into Left Wing Groups that are trying to register everyone from Edi Amine to Hugo Chavez to try to throw of republican voters by making them think that McCain has no chance to win this election.


pax

Posted 12:51 PM, 10/16/2008

Regarding 'they caught the guy' - token catches are a distraction. Given the quantity of questionable registration pure statistics would indicate a very high number of questionable voting.

Regarding qualification to vote - CITIZENSHIP in the USA. Anything else is an fraud.


sterfost

Posted 01:00 PM, 10/16/2008

If I here about disenfranchised voters one more time I'm going to be sick. I don't care if there are disenfranchised or not - if you don't keep accurate records and only register people that can legally vote then you have actually disenfranchised all of the legal voters by diluting our voice!
If they dont want to be disenfranchised then they should provide TIMELY and ACCURATE information like everyone else!


Urbusted

Posted 01:11 PM, 10/16/2008

For you dem's that think voter fraud cannot happen because of the ID issue, I have some Ocean Front Property in Arizona For Sale!!!

Surely you're not so ignorant that you have not heard of Modern Technology??? Even I a basic Computer user could take a legitimate utility bill and scan it and edit it to show any name I wish as the addressee. Only a Crime Lab would be able to detect the fraud and I doubt that even they could do that without the original computer it was done on.

Do you really think that the American People are so stupid that they can't see this fraud being done right in front of them???

Most polling places have very lax ID requirements (if any at all)and it wouldn't take much to circumvent these lax policies and YOU DEM'S know it!!!

Do you really think that some poor poll worker is going to challenge Mr. Mickey Mouse that shows up to vote with the minimum ID required. People have changed their names before to copy characters or whatever. Would you challenge Mickey if you were the poll worker and the ID requirements appeared to be met??? Of coarse not because you would face the wrath of the dem's for disenfranchising poor Mr. Mouse.


thepatriot

Posted 01:23 PM, 10/16/2008

Scott,

You are just another leftist wingnut spewing venom when you know you are 100% wrong. The demorats will stop at nothing to put this anti-American POS in the White House.

FYI-a wing nut has ears with nothing but a hole in the middle...describes you and your posts to a Tee!


myronhalo

Posted 01:23 PM, 10/16/2008

Yes, she complains about having so little time to comply with the district court's ruling, and then postpones even trying until she hears from the Supreme Court. What crass and obvious malintent on the part of this Ohio official.
She doesn't care about disenfranchisement of voters. She doesn't care about integrity of the voting process. She doesn't care about the damage she does to the whole electoral process. She only wants to win at all costs.
Some of us are getting fed up to the top of having to put up with this kind of deception on the part of the devious and lying liberals.
I hope enough Americans who really care will wake up in time to throw off the consistent and prolonged attack on decency in the electoral process. You may not like McCain very much, but he is the only option to reject the takeover of America by the lying, liberal, hypocritic left.
I have lived in several different countries and in all of them, they require identity cards with photos to vote. Who says that America is more advanced then them?
Only the hypocrats protest honest voter identification because apparently it is to their advantage to have the phony votes counted.
Why would that be?


John Wayne

Posted 01:26 PM, 10/16/2008

Can you imagine going to the Supreme Court to have them overrule a lawful order of the State of Ohio that would defend people and their rights? The Supreme Court, Stevens in this case, should decline and refer to the lower courts ruling, and the Secrretary of the State of Ohio better get busy. Chicago politics, Ohio style. Why is it all the dirty politics is associated with one party in particular, the LiboCrats.


John Wayne

Posted 01:30 PM, 10/16/2008

Acorn supporters are a bunch of nuts!


RON

Posted 01:31 PM, 10/16/2008

I believe that only people who actually pay taxes should have voice in any election.Pay to play.


U.S.A

Posted 01:36 PM, 10/16/2008

My goodness, do we live in the third world world or what? How hard is it to ask for an id when a citezen votes? As equally divided as our nation is, we can't have felons and fraudulant people voting! I guarantee you, McCain/Palin will not let some 48 year old punk named Obama steal this election!


Gia1

Posted 01:44 PM, 10/16/2008

Wow. What a shock! The trailer park trash state that is Ohio come out to comment their racist ignorance. Where's that old hag who thinks Obama is an Arab? She comment here yet? GOP Morons are once again trying to intimidate rational and intelligent Ohioans. (Yes, there are some out there if you can believe it. They're called Democrats.)


myronhalo

Posted 01:50 PM, 10/16/2008

Scott,

You say Mickey Mouse can't vote, but a lot of people could vote for him if he is registered. I really wish Mickey could vote, becasue he wouldn't vote for garbage politicians. He is too smart to vote for people like Brunner and Obama


John Wayne

Posted 01:53 PM, 10/16/2008

Gia, you are proud of the fact that you are in the bag for an oppressive, socialstic, terror supporting, mysoginist that believes in the myth of global warming - full of gas, no pun intended? You are one of those Acorn nuts, aren't you? Just be honest. And after election day, you'll be a loser too, not that you aren't already. A lonely bitter ugly single spinster.


Estaban

Posted 01:57 PM, 10/16/2008

This is the reason why we have this voter registration process. It was common place to have political parties bribe voters to get their vote. One reason why alcohol is not sold during election day. This registration "dump" is an act that has been patented by democratic/community organizers to that more can slip through the cracks. Followed by the Chicago rules of election day: Vote early and often and Vote however you want when you're alive, but when you die you're voting democrat. There has to be some way to ensure 1 person - 1 vote without disenfrachisement. To say that a large group of people do not have any type of identification to confirm their registration is ludicrous! The Clinton Motor to Voter SSI or any other document can't be used? Please. If they can cash a check then they can also verify their registration.


khpdave

Posted 01:57 PM, 10/16/2008

Gia,

You are clearly an open-minded and
rational intellectual.

Thanks for your unifying comments
that come from the party of
acceptence and brotherly love.


John Wayne

Posted 02:15 PM, 10/16/2008

No ticky, no laundry! If you don't have any form of I.D., then you are charged with vagrancy in most cases. If you can't identify who you are, then you cannot vote. That is not disenfrachisement, that is the law, and a safeguard for the rest of the identifiable voring population. Why are law abiding citizens considred unloving becasue they don't let people do whatever?


balancing-acts

Posted 02:34 PM, 10/16/2008

Remember...it is historically the Chicago way...Vote Early Vote Often. Obama comes from the land of voter fraud. Why would we expect Obama's supporters to act any differently?


Gia1

Posted 02:41 PM, 10/16/2008

Seriously, what era are some of these people living in?? Socialists? Communists? Liberals? OH NO! Repubs, come out of your 1940's hole and fenced Suburbia. The world is a'changin' (as that half wit Governor would say). Hint - there are people with brown skin and diplomas in the world! SHOCK! I know!


Jaemes

Posted 02:48 PM, 10/16/2008

How is it possible that the democrats are the only ones with an agenda in this issue?

McCain is going to lose this election and our country will finally be free of the fear and greed that has ruled us for the past 8 years. Ask your self this, "Are you more or less free than you were 8 years ago?". The right does everything it can to stoke fear of Senator Obama. McCain showed last night he is unable to handle the job. We tried slow and stupid for 8 years, how about the Right finally admit they have driven this country into the ground and let some body else take a shot? It's not like we can do any worse.


tommco

Posted 03:01 PM, 10/16/2008

How is it that you need ID to rent a video or collect a welfare check, something I'm sure most of the newly registered voters would be familiar with, but not to vote? The lunatics have taken over the asylum.


John Wayne

Posted 03:09 PM, 10/16/2008

Socialism and Communism are fialed policies that are devestating to the common people. How is it that someone like Obama feels that he has the right to decide who should have what and how much of it. Black people more that anyone should detest that idea having suffered that very fate not so long ago. I don't understand how they so easily go back under that yoke of oppression. It is not small matter to say, oh, it's just a little Socialism under the trifecta of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. Of course, if you have never experienced that oppression, or fought to free others from it, then maybe it is just ignorance on your part to say, lets give the Black guy a chance to be pres, he can't be all that bad, right? It is not about the color, but the ideology. Obama and what he espouses is dangerous.


Sport222

Posted 03:15 PM, 10/16/2008

Shame republican't didn't show any interest in the real corruption and thief of our elections when the republican courts stole it in 2000 and their corporate own voting machines have been every since including 2004.
There are many documented reports of the deleting and switching of votes,,, with their secret codes and their machines which the government and voters are giving no access to and with out any backups to verify the results they feed to us.
Republican't alway attack democrats and others with the very lies and corruption which they are doing ...
They have been stealing elections for over 12 years and each year their crimes and corruption grow a lot more..
Now they trying to purge democrats from the voter rolls , by their BS and attach against an organization in which McShamer was cheerfully a member and speaker to gave his BS and they wish to distract Americans from their use of electronic voting machines to steal another election...
http://www.montereyherald.com/ci_10703347?nclick_check=1
ACORN's Response to McCain's Lies


Searchin4Truth

Posted 03:17 PM, 10/16/2008

Many of the people posting here are probably too young to remeber when the majority party for 45 years were the Democrats.

That changed in 1996 when majorities of Republicans were swept into office by a country sick of the liberal Democrats policies.

If Obama wins and I expect him to win, the very same thing will happen again. People will see how TERRIBLE the economy and their standard of living dives. Democrats made this country dependent of foreign oil and they aren't about to change now.

After 4 years of Democrats in majorities, the Republicans will again be swept into majorites to sweep the trash out.

Too bad for this country that "history" is not taught anymore unless it benefits the Democrats.


AllenOhio

Posted 03:25 PM, 10/16/2008

Voter Fraud starts with Registration Fraud!!
It is the prerequisite. Step One. If you can’t discern this logical fundamental,
go directly to Iran. Do not pass Go. Do not collect Voter Registration Form.

Verifying registration is not disenfranchising any one, it is protecting the process for all. Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner should protect the process by doing her job to the best of her ability. My grave concern is that is exactly what she is doing (Read: Incompetent).


Sport222

Posted 03:36 PM, 10/16/2008

Does anyone know what they are talking about when they say the files didn't match. The GOP contends the information for counties will help prevent fraud.

At least 200,000 newly registered voters have mismatched data, according to an initial review by Brunner's office.

This could mean that a person didn't use their initial on one form of the other and which most likely is the problem is the persons keying in or transfering the information make or had errors in this process...

Wonder how many of you are willing to donate your money,, to the sick , seniors and poor which do not have the transportation or the money to go through your process of eliminating them for the voter registration...

Of course you are going to reply that this in none of your concern...

Everyone one should want to make sure elections are ran without fraud and corruption. Yet I never hear a word from the republicans while they were stealing them for the past 8 years or more...

New Hamphire phone fraud, The courts thief of the presidential election in 2000 , the voter fraud in Ohio and other in 2004...
There are many cases where the republican in control of citizensd votes have "MISPLACE THEM" or deleted them or come up with many thousand less them voter voting.
Republicans fraud has become almost as frequent as their lies and propaganda they feed Americans on a daily basis...
Just look at McCain and Palin they would not know the truth if it bit them in their ...!

Republican do not want to eliminate "real" voting fraud , if so most of their condidates would be pounding the streets looking for work.


Andy

Posted 03:48 PM, 10/16/2008

Now Ohio elections can be just like Chicago or Baltimore-- Vote early, vote often.


Kathleen in Ohio

Posted 03:51 PM, 10/16/2008

The reason this is extremely important in Ohio is that Ohio had a window where people could register AND vote on the same day. Therefore, those bogus registrants could EASILY be bogus votes as well.

I'm ashamed to be in Ohio!


rhappleby

Posted 03:52 PM, 10/16/2008

In reply to Jonathan about address matching the voter registration: In NC it is required by law that the address for you voter registration is the address in which you live, and so is the address on the driver's license. If address has changed, it is easy enough for the voter to correct the address at the time of his/her voting.


Sport222

Posted 03:59 PM, 10/16/2008

Another case of Republican corruption in the voting process...

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Report_White_House_coordinated_taxpayerfunded_travel_1015.html
White House coordinated taxpayer-funded travel on behalf of embattled GOP candidates


thor

Posted 04:00 PM, 10/16/2008

These people that would disenfranchaise voters/try to skam polling officials deserve to be charged with Treason and suffer the same punishment as a traitor.


palm32

Posted 04:07 PM, 10/16/2008

Jersey Guy says repeal the 19th amendment.
These woman go gaga for "stars".
I asked some women here,(educated in our Liberal Schools),why they like OBAMA
"He talks nice"; or "He has a nice personality".


palm32

Posted 04:14 PM, 10/16/2008

Are you kidding me? You took my post off?
No profanity, hate speech, threatening words, no disparaging remarks about either candidate!
Is this a Massachusetts site?


palm32

Posted 04:15 PM, 10/16/2008

That's better!


Sport222

Posted 04:19 PM, 10/16/2008

Ohio Voting is not like Chicago and Maryland voting.
It is corrupted , bias and slanted and controlled by the republican party...
All one has to do it "READ" real true articles other then Fox news and the propaganda funded by tax money illegally by the white house...
********
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/SOL411A.html
Massive Voter Suppression and Corruption in Ohio
*****

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/15/taxpayers-fund-gop/
*****
Of course republicans are not concern about our tax money Bush illegal uses for republican canpaign propaganda..
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_administration_propaganda_and_disinformation

The Bush administration "spent $1.4 billion in taxpayer dollars on 137 contracts with advertising agencies over the past two-and-a-half years, according to a Government Accountability Office report released by House Democrats" on February 13, 2006, Richard Williamson reported for Adweek. "With spending on public relations and other media included, federal agencies spent $1.6 billion on what some Democrats called 'spin.'"


Sport222

Posted 04:37 PM, 10/16/2008

Andy says Chicago and Baltimore Vote early, vote often, and Lord only knows where this comes from one never knows but.......
**********

Massive Voter Suppression and Corruption in Ohio
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/SOL411A.html
**********

The Republican party of Ohio continues to be the most amazingly corrupt state party I have personally ever heard of.
http://corruptrepub.blogspot.com/2005/08/target-corrupt-republican-ohio.html
**********

How a Republican Election Supervisor Manipulated the 2004 Central Ohio Vote, in Black and White
http://www.bobforohio.com/newsclips/2005/jan/news2005-01-01.php
***********

She stood in line for four hours -- one hour in the rain -- and watched dozens of potential voters mutter in disgust and walk away without casting a ballot. Afterward, Thivener hopped in her car and drove to her mother's house, in the vastly Republican and majority white suburb of Harrisburg. How long, she asked, did it take her to vote? Fifteen minutes, her mother replied.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64737-2004Dec14


paulejb

Posted 04:37 PM, 10/16/2008

Ohio it's up to you again this year. Don't let the marxists steal this election. Vote McCain-Palin!


constitutionfirst

Posted 04:37 PM, 10/16/2008

Each fraudulent vote denies a legitimate voter their sacred right. If the tables were turned, we would hear the hue and cry of the Left, what is the difference? This is one part of our civilization that is both trusted-based and easily scammed. The consequences of a large majority of the populace being convinced of a scammed election, would result in riots in the streets. I can see it happening: my blood is already boiling. The country is a tinder box and ACORN treats this like a big joke, laugh it up funny boy.


Anne P.

Posted 04:53 PM, 10/16/2008

Barak Obama
Media Selected
ACORN elected


Donald Duck

Posted 04:56 PM, 10/16/2008

There should be a federal grand jury investigation into the conduct of ACORN in every state there is a problem. If there is wrongdoing, the perps should do hard time, not probation or other such nonsense. This group is a threst to the security of this country and, maybe, RICO should also be invoked by the feds. This huge rat's nest needs to be kicked and kicked hard so that the vermin can be permanently destroyed.


Anne P.

Posted 04:57 PM, 10/16/2008

Barak Obama
Media Selected
ACORN Elected


Sport222

Posted 04:58 PM, 10/16/2008

""Acon reported"" the fraud registrations and this of course if left out of every comment by republicans..
Where are all the examples of registration fraud which have "actually happen"????
But you can find time after time of republican's voter fraud by whatever means they can get by with...
Of course the republicans will tell you they believe in democracy and everyone voting...
But, what they leave out is they believe in everyone voting except for the democarts...

As Bush the CEO of the republican party stated ..
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." —Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000.
So this has been the policy every since and looks like his has just about received his wish....

****
Bush Administration Says Warrantless Eavesdropping Cannot Be Questioned
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/08/bush-administ-1.html
*****
Conservative Group Calls for Bush Dictatorship

A writer for a national security group set up by a conservative think tank has called on President Bush to declare himself "President for Life" and remove all Arabs from the Middle East so he can "repopulate the country with Americans."
http://watchingthewatchers.org/news/1290/conservative-group-calls-bush

*******


fmr ohioain

Posted 05:03 PM, 10/16/2008

Wow, I can't believe this woman is fighting a court order to make sure that only the people who are legally registered to vote can vote.

I guess it shouldn't be such a suprise. I mean she did try to stop votes if a box wasn't checked.

Wow, if you don't check a box your vote is not counted, but if you don't exist, i will fight tooth and nail to make sure your imaginary vote is accepted.

I thought that my former state of OHio had more sense then that!

Maybe this woman should, oh I don't know.....

RESIGN BECAUSE SHE CAN'T DO HER JOB!!!!


outre.mind

Posted 05:11 PM, 10/16/2008

Again? The GOP is trying to steal the election via Ohio AGAIN. Freakin' JERKS. LET AMERICA CHOOSE THEIR PRESIDENT!


urstupd

Posted 05:12 PM, 10/16/2008

Man Republicans are stupid. The only fraud going on is that the Republicans are trying to prevent people from voting. If you knew anything about anything you would know this. Try googling "vote caging" and you might learn something you ignorant yahoos.


MD

Posted 05:33 PM, 10/16/2008

Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, Inc. ----ACORN, that is what their name means. REFORM NOW, which includes the objective of creating hundreds of thousands of bogus voting registrations coast to coast so they can possibly steal an election and forward their agenda, without regard to the rest of us.

I don't feel like being disenfranchised by Acorn. And I don't like being called a racist because I criticize their candidate. Acorn and the Obama campaign are acting like political-thugs; we know they are dishonest and now we may have the information to prove it. The FBI is investigating the organization...I hope the truth prevails, although I am sure the first thing they will do is accuse the FBI of being bigots, racists and unfair because they are looking into (Potentially criminal) Acorn behavior and inside information.


Klarndog

Posted 05:34 PM, 10/16/2008

Who said Obama doesn't appeal to all groups- Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Francisor Franco, Ronald Reagan, Atilla the Hun and Popes John 1 to 146 have all recently registered Democrat (in, probablty, at least thirty states). It's not voter fraud when the Acorn and the Democrats do it- it's just another entitlement.


dugfmjamul

Posted 06:24 PM, 10/16/2008

States do not validate US citizenship when people register to vote. The California, Nevada, New Mexico and Florida non-citizen vote will put John McCain in the White House. The Democrats who have allow non-citizens to vote since HAVA 2002 (only a utility bill as a means of identification meets the standards outline by HAVA 2002) are now indirectly allowing non-citizens to elect John McCain to be the next President. Non-citizen Hispanics will not vote for Obama and they do not tell people taking the polls who they are going to vote for because the are under the radar, remember the States DO NOT VALIDATE US CITIZENSHIP when people register to vote and rarely prosecuted violations of voter fraud because liberal judges will not find them guilty unless they admit their guilt. State Prosecutors are reluctant to prosecute cases, so non-citizens have very little FEAR of getting caught. John McCain will be the next President of the United States not because of White Racism but non-citizens who think Blacks (in their mind) are getting a free ride, while they have to work at slave labor wages. Remember the TV ads directed at Spanish speaking voters, to be a citizen you have a basic understanding of the English language these ads where for the non-citizen Spanish speaking voter.

Stand by on election night when Barrack Obama has up to 8 point leads in California, Nevada, New Mexico and Florida and then John McCain wins those STATES.

I got my Senate voting data at http://www.SenateReports.com you can too!



netteo

Posted 06:27 PM, 10/16/2008

I have NO PROBLEM with disenfranchising voters WHO ARE NOT REAL or voting numerous times or not eligible to vote. If you are legal, eligible and alive you should have no problem voting. It is also the responsibility of the voter to make sure they register if the move.


educatedRon

Posted 06:37 PM, 10/16/2008

voter registration fraud is not a good thing, but its not as criminal as voter fraud. Mickey mouse, football teams? I think its a group of lazy bums who were simply lazy. I also think that people who are registering people to vote should not get paid a salary.

The caging list scandel and the Attorney general firing those lawyers is really the big news. That's at the highest of levels to the whitehouse when you get into attorney generals resigning and lawyers stating they were fired because they wouldn't illegaly attack voter registration institutions.

Thats a real crime. Thats impeachable. It caused the attorney general to resign.


mrethiopian

Posted 06:41 PM, 10/16/2008

I think Ohio should be removed from the election process, its completely corrupt. In 2004 the Republicans used fraudulent programs to get rid of the Democratic voters ( http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/10467024/ )
Don't believe me Google (2004 election fraud Ohio) you will see the plethora of history of the Republican crimes committed.

We need to rid this great country of Republicans ever holding office again, they have run this country into the ground in 8 short years.


Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 06:45 PM, 10/16/2008

Eric said:
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Did everyone forget that you have to present a valid government-issued ID to vote in Ohio? Nobody has overturned that. Any "suspect" registrants still have to show valid ID to vote.
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Eric, it's too bad that you are so uninformed.

The Democrats in Ohio have so watered down the election verification process that a voter can present a less than 1 year old utility bill, bank statement, or paycheck stub that shows the same address and name as what is listed on the voter rolls.

None of those "approved" identifications require a photo to match up to the person requesting a ballot.

Grandma died a 10 months ago. No problem, grab her last electric bill and head down to the poll site to cast an "extra" ballot.

Antwan is laying low since there is a warrant out for his arrest. No problem, grab his last cell phone bill and head down to the polls for another "bonus" ballot.

Tyrone has been gone for the last 6 months because the babymama is hinting that she wants some child support. No problem, any one of his welfare check stubs will get you an "extra" vote, just by taking it to the polls.

If Jennifer Brunner was interested in fair elections she would have followed the lead of the State of Indiana that got the Supreme Court to uphold the constitutionality of requiring photo ID to vote.


molkehii

Posted 06:46 PM, 10/16/2008

this dope said:

student

I take offense to your remarks. However, it is expected that a republican would take the low road of personal insults followed by innacurate statements. Please, tell me how a fake person, or a dead person, or cartoon character can vote even if they are registered. It can't happen. Or I should say it doesn't happen. How can they vote if they are dead or don't exist? Tell you what. Go talk to all of your dead, nonexistent, cartoon character friends and ask them how they are planning to steal the election. I would be interested to find out. Do you really think "Mickey Mouse" would vote for Obama? After all he is the head of a corporate empire and he might not like paying more taxes on his dividend payouts.
"

Student of what? Ignorance U - of course someone that doesn;t show up can't vote. Glad to see your parents money is being spent well. The point is, for you mental midgets, that if Mickey Mouse is registered that means someone can come in as "Mickey Mouse" and vote - 73 registrations means that person can come in 73 times and vote as the different names becausew they don't need identitification they just need ot keep track of the false names they used. Of course someone we all know no one would do that.

SO say no one votes those invalid names - somehow it's ethical and excusable that an organization take donations and misuse the money by defrauding even "just resigtrations"? nice mroal relevantism that... you leftists are whacked....


24hourapartments

Posted 06:49 PM, 10/16/2008

Duh! Is America supposed to be a democracy?

ACORN, and groups like this, should be outlawed.

Are Obama's cronies resorting to dirty politics? It seems so to me?

Everybody should be eligible to vote who vote, save Mickey Mouse(unless he's authentic), but this crooked acts ACORN has perpetrated should be prosecuted, and the vote should be challenged in courts, if withing 100,000 votes or so.

Obama, do you plan to repudiate ACORN, and do you plan to script a law to outlaw ACORN, instead of donating money to this crooked organisation? I doubt it--just try to duck all the issues, as your campaign has done.

Will the real Obama stand up before November 4? I doubt it.

Ohio, send Obama a message on election: vote NO to Obama.

Another thing, how are you palnning to raise taxes, give money away and balance the budget? This is not fiscal responsibilty.

And be sure to tell your supporters that you have already sold them out their health care before you've been elected.

Obama, you've been a senator from Illinois, where is the laws that you have proposed for a--National Health Care? Guess the dog ate, eh?

Obama, you are not from Illinois? Why are you senator from there? Expound, please?

Obama, how did you get into Harvard? Expound?

Obama, how much money did Oprah Winfery donate to your campaign to advance her agenda? Expound?

Obama, Muslim or Christian? Expound? Your policies do not advance or support the Christian faith and are against what the Bible teaches.

...just the real truth, Obama? You fill in the blanks ... please stop the phony info. you have propagated. At least be honest with those who support you. Others have already figures you out.


dugfmjamul

Posted 06:55 PM, 10/16/2008

Why can poor Republicans find the correct documents to register to vote but poor Democrats can't?

I got my Senate voting data at http://www.SenateReports.com you can too!


dugfmjamul

Posted 07:01 PM, 10/16/2008

Why can poor Republicans find the correct documents to register to vote but poor Democrats can't!

I got my Senate voting data at SenateReports.com you can too!


WillingSpirit

Posted 07:19 PM, 10/16/2008

John at 7:49 a.m.--you echo an idea that's popular in my family.

When the Feds send out the tax forms every Jan., they could include our voter registration card for the year.

Why would we want a government chosen by street people, druggies, felons and the mentally ill?

God, have mercy on America! Awaken the people before we go down like the Roman Empire did. Drunken, drugged, debached and violently and laciviously entertained all the way to decimation.


dugfmjamul

Posted 07:29 PM, 10/16/2008

We have a Republic with democratic principals; democracies have elected Adolf Hitler, Hugo Chavez, Saddam Hussein and Hamas. The Electoral College system we have to elect our President could in theory throw out the popular vote because voter/election fraud or any other serious problem and elect our next President. This may be a historic election that the Electoral College sees the nation wide voter fraud caused by ACORN and States not validating US citizenship when people register to vote and decide to elect the next President themselves.

I got my Senate voting data at SenateReports.com you can too!


jean

Posted 07:34 PM, 10/16/2008

WHAT A SHAMEFUL ACTION FOR AN OBVIOUSLY PARTISIAN BRUNNER! NO REGARD FOR MAKING OHIO ELECTIONS LEGITIMATE! YOUR ACTIONS MAKE THOSE IN FLORIDA LOOK LIKE A JOKE!

SHAME ON YOU JENNIFER BRUNNER!


WillingSpirit

Posted 07:42 PM, 10/16/2008

Jennifer Brunner needs to be looking for another job. She is a disgrace and a traitor.


Vorenius

Posted 07:55 PM, 10/16/2008

What is wrong with this fool?

If there are that many falsified registrations submitted by ACORN and others, she was ordered to FIX THE PROBLEM!

But, no, she is probably an Hussein supporter, and she doesn't want to do her job.

The Governor of the State of Ohio is looking like the largest fool in the state next to her. It is just as much his responsibility to fix the problem as it is her's, but we know he is for Hussein, so he won't do his job, all we can do is get rid of his sorry rear end ASAP!

As for the elections verification, I really don't care, if Ohio can't be fully validated until January 20th 2009, as long as it is a legal validation and all the illegal registrants are removed per the courts' orders!

Does this fool, really thing, appealing her job requirements to the Supreme Court is going to get overthrown. The Supreme Court Judges, even the liberals, know, they have a job to protect the citizenship of the United States and particularly Ohio, in this case from the VOTER FRAUD COMMITTED BY HER LACK OF ABILITY TO DO HER JOB!

Fire her, now! In the civilian world, if a person, can't do their job, then they are shown the door, well, show it to her!

McCain/Palin are going to win, fairly and legally, no cheap tricks such as multiple and false registrations are going to persuade us, who truly believe in what is right!


Kathleen in Ohio

Posted 08:00 PM, 10/16/2008

Eric said:
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Did everyone forget that you have to present a valid government-issued ID to vote in Ohio? Nobody has overturned that. Any "suspect" registrants still have to show valid ID to vote.
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What Jennifer Brunner is trying to do is keep the validation process on hold until after a certain mandatory date (I think it is October 19) at which time the same day absentee voter cards are separated from their envelopes that would confirm the voter's identity. Once that happens, Micky Mouse, Dead Grandma and all of the other's votes get to be counted. Contrary to popular belief on this site, those votes aren't likely to be for McCain. Obama's acorn doesn't fall far from the tree. I grew up in Illinois; all I can say is...now the nation gets to see Chicago politics in action!


NosamaK

Posted 08:15 PM, 10/16/2008

We hope your adventure to the top court does you better than Florida's in the 2000 election. Whether you can weather the correct margins will depend on your solid paragraph's of togetherness necessary to proclaim that "IF" the paragraph's were together you would have been right.
As you neighbor in the next state Michgian we noted a problem with the Obama Run as did Florida this primary season.Good Luck we ended in a vote of 1/2 vote for own candidate in favor of the other that was to spilt as a group run of many.
An American Opinion


kingsox

Posted 08:35 PM, 10/16/2008

Here are a couple of points for you ill informed from an Ohio resident
1. You have to present an id or recent bill when you vote so Mickey, Minnie or any other character most likely will not show up
2. A simple typo by the understaffed government agency in charge of entering these new voters can land them on the 'unmatched list'
3. Currently the federal government's lists are rife with errors which is why the no fly list is growing at such a rapid rate so attempting to compare voter data against that is purely unacceptable
4. Finally this state has been robbed twice by the Republicans and any one of you who agitate to come here and start a so-called revolution because you couldn't steal another one will land in my cross hairs


minehunter

Posted 08:37 PM, 10/16/2008

Well as they say in Chicago, the home BO. Vote early and vote often.

Thank you Acorn.

Did you know that they now have 105% of all eligible voters signed up in Indiana? If it keeps up it will be that way in Ohio also. that is some feat.


Ojay

Posted 08:47 PM, 10/16/2008

Would any state be vunerable to voter fraud if everyone was required to show a photo I.D.? Obama, the former worker, trainer and lawyer for the Acorn Machine has funded his former co-workers well, knowing exactly what he was doing. More dirty Chicago politics.
According to Doug that left a previous response:
"States do not validate US citizenship when people register to vote".
Well Doug, Evidentally the U.S. Government does not validate US citizenship when running for office.
If you had not heard, there is a lawsuit pending by a Phil J. Berg, a Democrat questioning Obama's citizenship. The DNC, Obama and their lawyers are in a hushed attempt to sweep it under the carpet.
When Obama's mother married and moved to Indonesia Obama and his mother both lost U.S. citizenship. Obama was returned to the U.S. at the age of ten - but it appears that he was not guided through the legal immigration processes.
I find truth in this complaint especially when Michelle Obama responded with this quote:

“My husband and I know that there is NO LAW that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by his step father.”

Obama refuses to provide any legal documentaion and is trying to hide behind the DNC's counter lawsuits.
Something is seriously wrong here people ! If this complaint is not true - proove it ! Very Simple.


Bennie

Posted 09:57 PM, 10/16/2008

I left Ohio in 1983 due to the job situation. I have allways missed the rich culture of ohio but what has happened to you ?? Come on people, to vote you have to prove you are an american citizen and you have the right to vote and only once. If this is to much of a "burden" to you may I suggest you stay at home because you have no idea how precious the right to vote for your leaders is. Man the perogies in the food colum look good....live in the south now....man I miss the slav/pol/italian/german heritage of NE ohio.....too bad you have your hand out now looking for the Govt to save you.... I couold never come back and live in what you have become


dumdems

Posted 10:12 PM, 10/16/2008

typical lying lib... needs to be jailed on federal voter fraud charges..if dic head obama is already a sure thing why all the fuss and cheating????


Bryon

Posted 10:30 PM, 10/16/2008

As Joseph Stalin said it so eloquently during the rise of communism in Russia, "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything". So, where are we headed as a Nation...? Pray people. Pray...


Sean

Posted 10:30 PM, 10/16/2008

For all those that think the idea of checking the registration info of "voters" is over the top, then think about this;
If you feel the info provided and the system to check it, as it stands now, is "good enough", then apply the same standards to Ohio's concealed carry law.


A

Posted 10:30 PM, 10/16/2008

Many brave men and women fought and died so we could have this right to cast our one vote. Not as many as we want to. Our one vote is being disinfranchised if you scumbags are allowed to get away with this breach of the law. Send all acorn workers to jail.


Jake Johnson

Posted 11:39 PM, 10/16/2008

Clearly we are witnessing a Republican attempt to suppress the vote in Ohio: there are often discrepancies between public records. People sometimes use their full name and sometimes don't. People move, particularly college students and those in their twenties and early thirties. so driver's license information and voter registration information will often differ. And when someone writes Mickey Mouse on a voter registration form, it's called a joke. An adolescent joke, but a joke. Let's see a list of the claimed discrepencies.


kathi kunzin

Posted 12:02 AM, 10/17/2008

i wonder how many acorn registrations were marked republican. if someone does fill out a card to be registered republican, does the card end up being turned in to the election board?
i also don't think that being asked to verify who you are by a driver's license or to have the info given to register is checked.


sdsdsd

Posted 01:45 AM, 10/17/2008

Please examine all the facts you can in this case before you go off with your Limbaugh talking points. I'm seeing lots of poisoned minds on this blog. There's nothing more harmful to democracy than misinformation.


ohigho

Posted 01:58 AM, 10/17/2008

ACORN volunteers are paid, which can lead them to falsify forms in search of more money. The far larger problem, of course, is that ACORN is bound by law to turn in all collected registration forms, even those they suspect of being fraudulent. It’s up to the County Clerk to double check the forms, and weed out the bad ones. Here’s an ACORN press release:

Fact: ACORN has implemented the most sophisticated quality-control system in the voter engagement field, but in almost every state we are required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones we know to be problematic.

Fact: ACORN flags incomplete, problem, or suspicious cards when we turn them in, but these warnings are often ignored by election officials. Often these same officials then come back weeks or months later and accuse us of deliberately turning in phony cards.

Fact: Our canvassers are paid by the hour, not by the card, so there is NO incentive for them to falsify cards. ACORN has a zero-tolerance policy for deliberately falsifying registrations, and in the relatively rare cases where our internal quality controls have identified this happening we have fired the workers involved and turned them in to election officials and law-enforcement.

Fact: No charges have ever been brought against ACORN itself. Convictions against individual former ACORN workers have been accomplished with our full cooperation, using the evidence obtained through our quality control and verification processes.


ohigho

Posted 02:01 AM, 10/17/2008

"Acorn" may not exactly be a household word, but it was on the cover of one of the newspapers I read in hard copy today, so it seemed worth getting into a marginal story that the GOP is trying to make central.

The key distinction here is between voter fraud and voter registration fraud, one of which is truly dangerous, the other a petty crime.

The former would be, say, voting the cemeteries or stuffing the ballot boxes. This has happened occasionally in American history, though I can think of recent instances only in rare local races. Practically speaking, this can most easily be done by whoever is actually administering the election, which is why partisan observers carefully oversee the vote-counting process.

The latter is putting the names of fake voters on the rolls, something that happens primarily when organizations, like Acorn, pay contractors for new voter registrations. That can be a crime, and it messes up the voter files, but there's virtually no evidence these imaginary people then vote in November.

The current stories about Acorn don't even allege a plan to affect the November vote.