Let's get behind our policemen for a change. Do they have to explain every move that they make?

rmk, akron

and apologize, too

rmk, akron

Thank you APD for protecting the citizens of Akron.

Please tell Marco Sommerville that he should give these officers more ammo and more marksmanship training.

Thank you Chief Gilbride for the immediate standing behind your men. It is quit refreshing. That last chief was a Plusquellic Puppet

These cops I like. I like a lot. Glad they are ok.

Those stupid robbers now see anything can happen on a simple job.

I still ask all of you...life no parole? for crimimals caught using a gun in a crime.?

Thank you, Chief, for putting out a well-thought out statement. Your efforts probably will keep the meth/robbery crowd from protesting at your door, shouting "No toothpaste, no teeth!"
Thank you, officers, for displaying fortitude and courage- taking immediate action- like you train to do. You are credits to the good people of this city. We salute you, your department and your chief. Your friends and family should be proud of you. PLEASE, keep us safe and never hand your heads on the trash you read.

Nice job chief. Quality, well-thought out information regarding the incident. I'm sure the meth folks wont be driving down to city hall to protest now, with good info coming in your article.

Your officers acted with fortitude, valor and duty and we thank them and your department. Lives were definitely saved by their quick actions.
Lie Detector, I bet the ammo and training money went to Goodyear, just like the pothole fillers and road salt did.

This whole episode must credit Mr. Sommerville's advice, when speaking about another armed encounter with police: If they told me to lay down, I'm not gettin on the concrete- I'll get down in the grass, where it's comfortable (member that one???) Clearly, your Council Prez got to these fools, especially the one who ran out the door so he didn't get laid out on the hard concrete. If you point a gun at a cop, the cop may throw you some lead.....think about that for the nest 3 to nine......tweaker.

Good work, Akron's Finest!

Change is born through the barrel of a gun; let the cops paint the streets red with blood and bring a new dawn of decency for Akron's citizens.

I am actually thankful that those cops were there that night..... god knows what could of actually happened. it goes to show, even after hours our guys like to relax, but in that kind of situation they knew how to handle it!!!!" go APD u two rock!

Excellent statement by Chief Gilbride...backed by FACTS! Continue the good work APD; you are still supported by the residents of this city!!

I;m glad these officers took charge,kinda scary where this crime occured,kind of a nice neighborhood,the holiday lounge is very laid back too,these criminals are white trash...see you crooks later,hope you love the food.

I am all for the police but lets make sure they are doing the right thing also, and shut people like me up by making them get tested instead of skipping that major process.

You can see this creates a problem!

2923.121 Possession of firearm in liquor permit premises - prohibition, exceptions.
(A) No person shall possess a firearm in any room in which any person is consuming liquor in premises for which a D permit has been issued under Chapter 4303. of the Revised Code or in an open air arena for which a permit of that nature has been issued.

(B)(1) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(a) An officer, agent, or employee of this or any other state or the United States, or to a law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry firearms and is acting within the scope of the officer’s, agent’s, or employee’s duties;

(b) Any person who is employed in this state, who is authorized to carry firearms, and who is subject to and in compliance with the requirements of section 109.801 of the Revised Code, unless the appointing authority of the person has expressly specified that the exemption provided in division (B)(1)(b) of this section does not apply to the person;
oh yeah

The rea son being

2923.121 Possession of firearm in liquor permit premises - prohibition, exceptions.
(A) No person shall possess a firearm in any room in which any person is consuming liquor in premises for which a D permit has been issued under Chapter 4303. of the Revised Code or in an open air arena for which a permit of that nature has been issued.

(B)(1) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(a) An officer, agent, or employee of this or any other state or the United States, or to a law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry firearms and is acting within the scope of the officer’s, agent’s, or employee’s duties;

(b) Any person who is employed in this state, who is authorized to carry firearms, and who is subject to and in compliance with the requirements of section 109.801 of the Revised Code, unless the appointing authority of the person has expressly specified that the exemption provided in division (B)(1)(b) of this section does not apply to the person;

I am not one to say cover up but this is a very classic case of one that could be classified as one. Glad they serve and protect but I think that someone should provide facts not statements.

I have made two obvious statements that I'm sure others have also wanted to make and have not been posted on this blog. If I don't appear to be drunk and get pulled over and they smell the alcohol, why is it that I'm still tested.

Watch STREET KINGS, 2 days go by and the statement is released. I want a clear cut answer and statement as to why they were not tested, i dont care about the robbery at this point they are in custody and the courts now decide their fate, but just because they don't appear intoxicated they are not tested NOT GOOD ENOUGH........

The paper says 10 shots were fired, if not intoxicated, blind, or the officer has parkinsons,why didnt he at least injure or stop the robber. STAY OUT THE BAR GO TO A RANGE.

Ohio REvised Code
2923.121
Possession of a firearm in liquor permit premises - prohibition, exceptions.
No person shall posseess a firearm in any room in which any person is consuming liquor in premises for which a D permit has been issuedunder Chapter 4303. of the Revised Caode or in an open air arena for which a permit of that nature has been issued.

Whoever violates the ssection is guilty of illegal possession of a firearm in a liquor permit premises.

@illegal plumber, i just changed your name to illegal lawyer,do your illegal plumbing, and let the chief do his, these two guys are heroes to the owners, and @johnd "not good enough?" for who?you? then get off your a#$, and get downtown take the vinson family with you and march and protest, and wave candles and signs in the air, they did the right thing 2 scumbags are in jail tonight,maybe you were there next victim, you'll never know thanks to these cops, quit making a fool out of youself your comments are stupid.

I never heard any gunshots fired from the robbers the drunken cops didnt even hear gunshots from the robbers. The gun was pointed at them to have an alibi for 10 wild (missing everything) shots. I know brian gumpl yeah if he did this he will pay but thats not him i gaurantee it that guy is loyal and one of the funnest m/f er i know i can say that without regret no matter what anyone thinks. If i needed help in any way guess who I would ask knowing hed be there. Drugs is his only downfall but apparently everyone talks about heros im not seeing heros the robber left without incident a hero would of got the person who did that with less than 10 shots, and that didnt get them either my heros can see.

I never heard of a department that doesn't have a policy for off duty carry. Were the officer's on duty? Its states that officers are exempt to carry into a bar while ACTING in the scope of their duty. Drinking is part of their duty? Now before all of you get bent. I've been an officer for 20 years. 7 as a supervisor. The key word in the ORC is CONSUME or be intoxicated. I guess Akron is exempt from the law even off duty.

Just as i thought, your related or friends with one of these dirtbags,so,Brian Gumpl is your hero huh?Hope you are as loyal to him as you say he is to you, you can send him food boxes in prison and gauze for his bleeding backside, now is he so funny?Thats his new reality.

John D and everyone that has anything negative to say about the police in this matter.......Shut up. It is over. If you want to make changes, get off your butts and do something about it. Running your mouths on here is not going to do anything.

Do you really think that if the police did anything wrong the mayor and hisgroup wouldnt be all over it???

Thank you APD and these officers for all they do to help make our city safe.

I believe all of our high elected officials "weapons of mass destruction and this guy as pres. now i'd rather not say the sociolist lies he has told and he is a hero also" and others that i can go on for days about a fake ship attack to start a war please dont think you are smarter or funnier than me. I really believe all that you hear, we are dying with the economy that was told that everything was alright,gas was $4.00 a gallon 7 months ago come on stupid they dont go in to any office to help us they go in to help themself I give them the credit that I give the president none what so ever. I didnt think that the mayor or the chief would defend a crook.

I don't defend what he did,if he did it,(innocent until PROVEN GUILTY IN FRONT OF A COURT OF LAW), at all I never said that so read, understand what i said. These cops are the greatest things in akron and they have not taken any test outside their presinct common why no BAL test just because they didnt seem to do hammered send the guy that missed 10 times for all kinds of eye test drug and alcohol test. Name one blog when i made BRIAN a hero like you did with the APD.

I hope you really don't believe deeinana that APD had no cover up at all with this! Our cities are so safe that the APD is hirimg many more officers to help with a so called clean-up in Akron. I guess you don't get out much! The Mayor and his groupies would be all over this, huh? I do believe the cover-up started when the officers didn't go through the same techniques at the scene as you or I would have to go through. I do believe there is a motto "Innocent till proven guilty". Well in this case they are innocent because there is no way now to prove they are guilty. Wow, how convenient is that. I guess there would be no reason now to get the Mayor and his groupies involved, huh? I have served time through school within the criminal justice field. There is more evil than good, even in that line of work. I even did a field trip to a Prison and they actually have a wall of shame, I'll explain. It is a wall filled with pictures of prison officials that have actually been busted sneaking drugs into the prison,and I hope you don't think they were not getting their cut. I think you are spending way too much time in front of the tube and paper. Step outside and view the real world for yourself, not just what the media wants to get out to you!

I'm done with trying to put the obvious into to the eyes of the public maybe if he accidently shot himself in the leg like a football player"Plaxico Burress" then he is a bad guy common just because they did something right while doing something illegal, makes them heroes, come on open your eyes everyone I'm not defending anyone I'm pointing out that its not so wrong to send 2 officers for testing truckdrivers are sent for a test if they are in a accident whether its there fault or not so why is this different for cops. I guess they are above us i have never met a modest one of them yet.

Another point I'm going to bring up is: as a citizen, If I was to fire 10 shots sober at someone I'm 100% possitive that I would at least hit my target at least once. It is a proven fact that alcohol impaires your judgement, right? This statement was given by the cheif himself that the officer fired 10 rounds from his firearm. I know for a fact that they have to stay up to date with their target practice. All of you are saying how you are so proud to have APD there to serve and protect. I hope this officer never gets a call to my place of employment which is located in Akron to serve and protect me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you get the mispelling and bad wording of those blogs, that's the funny, just look at both sides of this. All I'm saying is that I don't defend criminals or heroes. In the end, if the cops were not drinking it would be easy to prove the nay sayers wrong, "TEST THEM". As confusious says, "two wrongs dont make heroes". Only if you all were not so nieve and somewhat open-minded, you'd understand the facts of reality.

I see the problem here is 2 sets of laws, one for the "citizens" and one for the police.

When officer "Lugie" wrecked his car and acted drunk, no test, a "citizen" skidded to a stop behind the accident this "citizen" was tested and arrested for DUI. Now we have 2 police with a guns in a bar drinking an incedent happens again no test. The law does not want alcohol and guns together in a public area. I liked the actions of the police going after the robber however there are 3 criminals here, the robber and the 2 police drinking with guns in a bar. I dont believe that the robber pointed the shot gun at the police in plain cloths. Had 2 bar patrons shot at the robber he would have shot back if he was able to do so.

Laws are for all not just the "citizens". This is a cover up by APD and summit county prosecutor.

''Actually, I think the [officers] were quite heroic in the sense that they tried to make an apprehension of a very serious crime in progress and put their lives on the line,'' Gilbride said.

Hey Chief, your officers were in a bar with their weapons. If you don't think they were drinking you're stupid and have no business being in an executive position. They should be punished not praised. I've been a cop for 11 years up in Cuyahoga County and I know my job would be on the line if I took my gun in a bar, drank, AND THEN SHOT AT SOMEONE!. WTF? Akron PD you're starting to resemble Cleveland PD and CCSO. Now I know why one of your guys is leaving your dept. and coming to mine. He did say "It's all f****d up down there." and I see he's right.

what a huge mistake in not having them take a breathalyzer, if they did that then they could say, look we weren't drunk!! if i were on of those cops i would have insisted that i be tested.....

Now he is stating confusious, over his hero Brian Gumpl, the loyal one- his words!

It wasn't a mistake, it was a cover-up. It would have been public record if they would have taken the test. They are not by far stupid. If anyone knows how to cover something up, it is the law. I'm mean look, they learn from the best, "the criminal mind". Think about it, I went to school for my Criminal Justice Degree and learned alot on how to put myself in the mind set of a criminal. The APD can't afford too much more bad publicity. We all know their known lately for being trigger happy. Too top it off, if it came out that they were drunk, wouldn't be good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Citizens then would lower their level of respect for authority in Akron (even lower than it already is). This way they come out as more of a hero than more of a loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i can't believe these cops were not tested for intoxication after a shooting at a bar at 1:30 am.what a double standard.

Bobbyg please quit making up what i said to mean what you think, go ahead and believe that the cops and the government are the greatest thing that happened to this country, overspending and they are not liable for their horrible decisions just make statements and people let it go im really sick and tired of the corruption, and it starts at the local level and trickles up. So continue to be the tool that you are.

@johnd well i give in your right everyone else is wrong, including myself. And Brian Gumpl is a hero.Feel better- you won. I mean its about being "right " w/you correct.You need to visit your lost child sir, you cannot heal through blogging.

john d
Your illiteracy in your post makes it difficult to read or understand your point. From what I read from your post. You are friends with one of the suspects, you're upset that he was busted for armed robbery, and you want the two officers punished as well. The rest of your post was just useless babble.

@BRIAN Thank you, maybe he'll take heed here.Yuor a wise man.

Bobby, by the looks of it you have an illiteracy problem yourself. Your last few comments had mistakes and made no sense. Keep up the good work Mr. Non-educated. It doesn't sound to me that he was saying Brian was a hero, he was stating that the APD should clearly be held accountable for their actions also! If you would go back and read some of my comments instead of being focused on just what John D. is saying, maybe you could see it from both sides instead of just being the one-sided person you truly are. I'm sure you are not or havn't been in the past a model citizen yourself. You people crack me up, acting all high an mighty. Everyone has ATLEAST one person in their family, a friend or even yourself, that is in and out of trouble and has made unwise decisions. You are going to see much more with the economy in shambles so get used to it. Please stop acting better than what you truly are and think about getting an education greater than GED or 9th grade level.

I don't defend anyone but i guess you taking that i knew brian gumpl and stating what i thought of him is sticking up for him, not so fast my friend, i never defend acts like robbery, i am merely saying that guns and alcohol in a bar don't mix no matter what, but we will never know because that aspect has been covered up by a statement with no results. Simple facts you here the criminals names why not release the names of the other 2 drunks in the bar that night. Prove me wrong that the cops weren't drinking.

I said your right!move foward, and little devil no one takes you seriuosly.

I heard little devil is related to the girl that was hiding in the bar?Is this true?

Bobby G., how does no one take me seriously? Is that the best you could come up with? The answer of a non-educated person, as I thought by your responses. You certainly didn't defend the fact brought up of your education. You didn't have to though because we would know you were lying anyway, especially if you argued the fact that you have one greater than the 9th grade level. Sorry about the incorrect information that you received of my relation to the girl who was observed on video hiding in the bar. Don't know of her and don't care too! I suppose you are also one of those people that believe everything you hear! I'm starting to really feel for you in many ways. I guess I should ask what's your age verse what your education level is. By the sound of it you might still be in school.

I am however related to Brian Gumpl (tell your informants that tidbit of info.). You can't say that I have defended his actions by any means. I have however commented on the actions of the officers and only because I have knowledge of the law. Remember before you come back with any D***A** comments that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. You know the same way that because the officers had no way of being proven guilty so are presumed innocent!

Put John D & Illegal Plumber together and er'll have half a brain.....maybe.

"we'll", sorry. The legal mumbo jumbo does not apply to the situation. These two cops owe you NOTHING, Johnny.

Oh, little devil i dont feel the need to defend my educ. or anything w/you and your big bold long blogs. At least you live in a decent community.I have alot of friends in green most do not support robbery like you and your friends.So no, no one takes you seriuosly we expect alot more from a city of green resident, go march and protest behind your keyboard, support criminal behavior all you want.Send them food boxes in prison, who cares?Just when you get violated don't cry on this thread,your negative attitude toward police and your positive comments in the abj about criminal acts says enough about you!

I knew your taking your frustration out on me, thats okay, I'll be your sounding board so you don't have to say what you feel, hide' live a lie.So, Brian is your relation, it all makes sense.But seriously people are saying on other threads your related to the girl. OK little devil you win, thats your relative, im sorry.I can't wait till he is sentenced, i'll be there, cause i work there!Hope to see you too!

@thuder31 lmao , hey don't forget little devil, he came out of the closet, he is forrest gumpl's relation.They swang out of west virginia on a grapevine together.ha ha

Oh...Bobby G., there you go twisting again! Have you heard one person say that they defend any criminal act? As a matter of fact we are doing the opposite! What is good for the Goose is good for the Gander. Not one time (read the blogs again and get your facts straight before you open that huge mouth of yours) did anyone say they were going to walk the streets and protest one thing that had anything to do with criminal behavior, RIGHT? I feel if you do the crime you do the time (relative or not), D***A** HILLBILLY! So now again we are back to the subject many are arguing (even officers themselves in other communities-including GREEN). Why was there so much cover-up done with this case? HMMM, maybe because not only was the robbery wrong but again HMMM, maybe the officers were too! I find it so hard to believe you have many friends at all, especially from Green. Yes, this a very nice community, so I guess it won't be brought up how his family is poor white trash from Akron, Ohio. There will be no need to send any food boxes because again innocent till proven guilty and you never know there might be another twist to this story. So stay tuned for further updates, D*** A** HILLBILLY! Your community isn't no better than Akron. Are you sitting in one of the Meth Houses located in Mogadore, Ohio? I know lots of your community! I know people too! I have no negative attitude towards police you ID**T. Did you not read my blogs above. That is my field, Criminal Justice! Just remember, you never know who you are truly talking to on here! Lets just say I'm well liked!

Bobby G., again you are wrong! I'm not a he but a she! That Forrest thing is so funny (NOT)! Do you really think I havn't heard that before? Tell me your last name or are you frightened? Lets see how wonderful it is! That West Virginia thing was so original and not funny! You need to get out much more. My last name isn't Gumpl either so I'm still not sure of who you were trying to make fun of!! If you work there like you say, you might know my people. Must be careful who you say things too now adays. You can't have too high of a position (not educated enough), maybe janitor? I see you avoided another comment of mine about your community! Care too answer! If you are a personnel of the summit county court system (since you'll, "see me there"), you should be well aware of what is happening around you, right?

Iffin I was out for a cold one and them fools came in, I be glad to have andy & barney there even if they can't hit the broad side of a barn. back to yhou, idiots.

Larry, Curly, and Moe! That would be a sight for sore eyes. You made yourself out to be the idiot, especially with your spelling errors! So again explain why you are so glad to have Andy and Barney there! I mean what did they do? Explain! Re-think what you write before you write it next time. Back to you, IDIOT!

The picture explains it all Minna Wade! You might want to edit your account and take your name out and make one up so people don't realize who the IDIOT is!

Maybe I can help you two. ORC requires a resident to submit to a breathalyzer test for Operating a Motor Vehicle Intoxicated. You don't get to blow for walking or running.
More importantly, though, a shotgun will penetrate body armor if a slug is fired. I wouldn't want to take that chance.
If they confronted the robber inside, he could have taken hostages. Would any of you want your spouse grabbed by a criminal in that situation?
Finally, consider this. Firing 10 shots is not the issue, since many of you would like to see the officer get some range time. At 100 feet away, which is basically 2 house lots, firing at the visible suspect area (his head) in a variable condition (inside a moving vehicle) can ne explained as this:
Stand at the range, 25 yards from the target. The target is a US quarter. Try and hit it. Maybe a sharpshooter with a rifle could, but not a veteran police officer with a duty issued 9mm.


Give these cops some slack. They weren't reckless and acted with care for others. This didn't happen at V Odom and Raymond, where there would be 15 people out on the corner at 130 AM. No one was hurt and the actors are in jail.

Little prostitue just likes to attack people, wow poor Minna Wade can't even post a comment w/out this angry dysfunctional Gumpl appearing on the thread for a blast. Guess anger, violence,hate,run in the Gumpl blood.Everyone just ignore her no one takes her comments seriously, just read anyone you'll see her pain.

Realist, the suspect was not in a vehicle, he was running from them at the time they fired the weapon. If you have been keeping up with this story you would know that. The chief said that the reason the officer had fired was because the suspect turned around with the gun and aimed it at them. If you think about it if the suspect was running and heard them chasing him he most likely turned around to see what was happening behind him and of course it would look like he was aiming it at them if he had it in his hand (which I'm sure was the case) because he hadn't made it to the vehicle yet. I would think that if you had something in your hand and you turned that whatever you are holding would naturally move with your body. Wouldn't you think that if he really wanted to hurt someone he could have. He had a loaded gun. If someone was taking shots at me and I had a loaded gun it would most likely be instinct to fire back and that wasn't the case. Come on now, 10 shots were fired! I would say that alcohol most likely impaired his judgement. How can you argue the fact that this whole mess is a cover-up. Then you argue the fact that no breathalizer was done because they were not driving a motor vehicle. They sure had to get in their vehicles and drive home. I know a girl right now that got pulled over by police after leaving a bar (her work place) because they seen her exit the building. They waited till she pulled out of her place of employment and pulled her over to see if she had been drinking. Well they had been in the same kind of establishment and had to get into their cars themselves after the whole incident was over. I'm sure they were not in there sipping on cokes. I'm friends with a few officers myself and guess what, this might come as a huge shocker to you but when we go out for a few drinks, we don't just sip on non-alcholic beverages. This might also come as a shocker to you but I have seen them get in their vehicle and drive home. I would say impaired!

Right on Executive4, finally someone with a brain on this blog! These people are so one sided that they can't take into consideration what is right in plain view. The only thing that would have shut the public up about the event that took place was a test to prove their innocense, right? Innocent till proven guilty but in this case it seems to be Innocent because no proof to prove guilty!

Blah, Blah,Blah, Gaurantee this forest Gumpl gets 7to 10 years.You need to focus on your family little devil instead of what everyone is saying about your husband on this blog.He needs money to protect his rear end now.

Little Devil, What a rap sheet your husband has, ccw, assault, aggravated robbery,drug abuse,at least 4 pages long,Wow!!!!He's hit in the mouth.This will be my last comment. I am actually feeling bad for your family now, hard times ahead, best of luck.

It didn't take long for the keyboard beaters to find something bad out of a good deed.
Lock jaw wouldn't even help some of you.

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Executive4, rob any pizza delivery people lately?

Why is that we can not just let this go as the two officers were heroic in their actions. By the way, you can drink a couple of beers and still pass a breatalyser...so lay off...the situation could have ended a lot differently and extremely more violent with injuries or death, I mean he had a freaking shotgun...Thanks to the APD...job well done! Two more A holes behind bars!

I see people are still responding to this post.
so i'll throw my 2 cents..i don't care if the cops were completely HAMMERED..they help ID these pukes
and no one else was injured..end of story..next case! good job APD.

I'm surprised that everyone thinks it is so easy to hit a target that is running away from you in the dead of the night. This isn't Hollywood, people. These cops aren't Dirty Harry. As far as I'm concerned they did an excellent job! Criminals were caught and no one was injured. Thank you APD!

As an officer myself, I do not like double standards! Yes the officers did a good job. But they broke the law at the same time. I teach law and a firearms instructor also. I can bring up numerous shoot outs that happen all the time and the targets were not hit, with way more shots fired. This case the officers did shoot at the mopes and did hit their vehicle. Almost all on here have no clue to what the law is. You can copy and paste all you want but it's obvious that you cant understand it. YOU CANNOT HAVE A FIREARM IN A D ESTABLISHMENT UNLESS YOU ARE ON DUTY!! YOU CANNOT CONSUME OR BE INTOXICATED!! THAT MEANS YOU CANT EVEN SIP A BEER!!!DID YOU SEE THAT WORD?? CONSUME!!CONSUME!!!CONSUME!! LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF CONSUME! So all the investigating supervisors had to question was whether the officers were drinking at all. Now they ran out after the suspects and shot at their car (and did hit the car by the way). Even if they did not fire one shot, they still would have caught them because the officers witnessed who they were and a description of their car. It's called being a good witness.

@maximus-thank you for the input.

I think those two officers did the right thing. They knew what they were doing and even when they were off-duty and in a bar, they weren't intoxicated which means to say, they deserve credit for doing such act.

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