Rubber bullets are certainy better than live ammunition? Certainly this could have been handled differently? Four Dead in Ohio - Neil Young? THis is distrubing on both sides of the equation? Have a feeling law enforcement might be more intelligent than the intoxicated students - apparantly not?

RT @barnettes About 8 p.m.: we ran into some students behind Kent Hall angry the police were "tear gassing" their friends "for no reason."

@lsrccrd RT via @kent360 all we know is that sources at the scene say the fires were started in retaliation to police tear gas. *Thx 4 info! Is no excuse if you ask me, however, what is up with this? Makes no sense - graduated from there years ago and had no - problems like this?

Not shor rubber bullets and called in the National Guard?

I'm certain their parents are very proud of them... "They're just good kids blowing off a little steam".

There is NO reason whatsoever to act like a bunch of drunken fools, setting fire to objects in the middle of the road, vandalizing property (if indeed doors from homes were used to fuel the fire, I'm sure their slumlords will be happy), disturbing the peace, keeping the police and fire away from potential real problems in the city. All because a bunch of spoiled drunken brats have zero respect for themselves.

*snore* Spare us the Twitter feed posts, Mike. That's hardly a reliable source for any information.

flashline message: The university is disappointed in the events that have occurred and finds the behavior inexcusable.
5 minutes ago from web ...The university secured campus buildings in the area as a preventive measure.
6 minutes ago from web flashline message: All activity has occurred off campus and everything is quiet at this time...
6 minutes ago from web university flashline message: Warm weather mixed with alcohol has contributed to events getting out of control this evening.
7 minutes ago from web university called students' behavior "inexcusable" in a flashline message. they said 125 arrests were made, but there were no injuries.

8 minutes ago from web RT @fyrestorme: my dad's apt building is @ Summit & College's corner. all Seemed calm about half hour ago but we heard choppers fly over.
26 minutes ago from web RT @jleveto "whats the helicopter(s) with spotlights?" ... We aren't sure. We suspect they're just making sure things are calm.
27 minutes ago from web Check @kent360 and KentNewsNet.com through the rest of the weekend for more updates and information on the College Avenue riots.
31 minutes ago from web Helicopters are out above Kent with spotlights.
32 minutes ago from web Check @kent360 and KentNewsNet.com through the rest of the weekend for more updates and information on the College Avenue riots.
36 minutes ago from web Police left the scene on College Avenue at 10:51 p.m.
39 minutes ago from web Things seem to be calming down around Kent, although some are still saying they hear sirens.
about 1 hour ago from web Kent Police dispatchers can't comment yet as to why police were at Lefton's home.
about 1 hour ago from web @mjenkins We saw it. We also saw street signs, luggage and couches.
about 1 hour ago from web @omgitslph ... at students who were throwing glass bottles into the street.
about 1 hour ago from web in reply to omgitslph@omgitslph we haven't confirmed this, but students are saying they started the fire in protest after police fired rubber bullets ...
about 1 hour ago from web in reply to omgitslphRT @barnettes About 8 p.m.: we ran into some students behind Kent Hall angry the police were "tear gassing" their friends "for no reason."
about 1 hour ago from web Have questions about tonight's riots on College Street

Bunch of drunken idiots, they all deserve to be arrested if they were stupid enough to start setting fires like that. The Police were only doing THEIR JOB by protecting the rest of us! Let's see, who are these spoiled brats going to call when someone robs their house? Oh yeah, the guys they were throwing bottles at! Friggin' morons!

I poat this information for 2 resaons neither side of the stroy makes sense - in answer to the lonly comment posted so far - rubber bullets are not an acceptable answer to this and am sure allot more will come out on this = another civil rights investigation in Kent - first dismissed - if what have read is correct takes two sides and both are not thinking very well. Agree 1000% behavior is unacceptable on both sides of the coin - summers coming ? 125 are arrested - what about the innocent people tased with rubber bullets? That is enough to cause the problem - look at what is going on in this world?

Fine then, if rubber bullets aren't appropriate for this situation (if that's what your unintelligible post is implying)... Arm the police with real bullets and let them break the National Guards record.

Please. When the police show up and ask you to disperse - DISPERSE. If your drunken heiney gets tear gassed or shot with a rubber bullet, too bad so sad. Maybe you should be studying for finals instead?

Johnny what started the problem the tear gas and rubber bullets or the alcohol?

Nancy,

Never read a word from Twitter till now - link in the KSU Student Newspaper - would think is as accurate as it is from ones perspective?

A bunch of kids who just had their party broken up Twittering about it? No, I really don't think it's an objective view of the situation.

And I'm giving them the benefit of doubt that they're NOT drunken posts.

Quite the opposite to the Editors - makes sense to me? 4 Dead In Ohio - Neil Young? Again behovior all around is not acceptable?

Nancy,
This is not Iran? Are you a law enforement officer or just supportive of that. I am as well something crosses the line here? Does not matter on which side this is distrurbing and think you would agree?

Really Mike?

What would you have done?


Somehting Different?

Hmm. Looks like my post got eaten.

No, Mike, this isn't disturbing. When police tell you to break it up and disburse so the fire department can do their job putting out a fire you and your group started on a city street (blocking traffic) and not private property, obey it. When you refuse, prepare to face the consequences - tear gas, rubber bullets, etc.

And your continued attempts to liken this to May 4th is silly. The May 4th shootings involved morons of a different caliber (no pun intended), but at least their stupidity wasn't over breaking up their 'end of semester' drunkfest. Either way, toss rocks at armed men; be prepared to face the consequences.

satan had me bound but jesus set me free...thank you jesus

RE (College kids, go away and burn down your parent's neighborhood.)

Yeah, let's see how proud you are of your college students then!

How sad to be educated with no common sense.I'm surprised the little darlings didn't stick their hands into the fire to see if it was hot.
"What are these mean old firemen doing here trying to ruin our pretty fire?" WAH,WAH.

I liked the thoughtful post about throwin' the little darlin's out of college. It's obvious that they are morons and are jes' takin' up space that could be used by a decent kid that yearns for an education.

Protesting the war and burning your couch because you are drunk and it is 80 degrees out are two radically different things.

Another Black Eye for Kent State. .


FEAR THE ' ROO. . .

"Warm weather mixed with alcohol has contributed to events getting out of control this evening."

That's odd, I had a couple of beers and enjoyed the nice weather last night too. I didn't start any fires in the street or have the cops called on me...

hey if your gonna be condescending about it atleast know what happened i was there a cop used extreme force and threw a girl to the ground everything was calm till then and by the way i got hit with a rubber bullet and i could care less about that it was the girl getting thrown down that sparked everything dont judge it if you werent there

What a glorious Sunday it is, when people can advocate the mass murder of students on a newspaper Web site.

A fine day indeed. God Bless America.

Four Drunk In O-HI-O.

What the hell is Twitter? Is it what a bird sounds like after it gets hit with a rubber bullet?

These were a bunch of drunk idiots that deserved EVERYTHING they got. I hope each and everyone of them spend at least a few weeks in jail. Bravo to the police for doing their jobs and enforcing the law. For those pot smoking hippies that are defending the students, WISE UP! This isn't the 60's anymore. Put your Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young records away and join the rest of us in the land of reality.

Kent read, Kent write, Kent State.

I am a recent KSU grad and I never took part in any of this. So all of you people who consider Kent State students spoiled brats, your wrong, I put myself through college at the age of 21. Not everyone acts like this and all of those "kids" deserve to be punished!

I agree with ksu11. I actually currently go to ksu, and PAY for my college. Not all college students are spoiled brats. However I do agree, they deserve what they get. And I am ashamed to admit I go to that school. I have talked to some people that were part of it, and they all think it is funny and "exciting". Some people just don't know how to grow up. Just don't judge the entire kent state based on 400 stupid people.

Ever since Akron got on CNN back in 96 Kent has been trying to 'one-up' Akron. Close, but no cigar yet fellas!

hey if your gonna be condescending about it atleast know what happened i was there a cop used extreme force and threw a girl to the ground everything was calm till then and by the way i got hit with a rubber bullet and i could care less about that it was the girl getting thrown down that sparked everything dont judge it if you werent there

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I was there, and you are a liar.

Don't compare this to May 4. Those people had a reason to be out there. They were protesting a needless war becaue they were informed and cared about the world. These kids care only about themselves. They need to get some focus in their lives.

Thank God no one was seriously hurt. Now these folks will have an event to remember and a story to share for years to come. To Mike and Kentsucks: When you someday have homes and families of your own, you'll understand the concerns of having a few hundred revelers burning fires in the middle of your streets.

To sc(r)ub
Why was the girl thrown down?
I dont have to be there or be sober to know how to use common sense in this situation... If it's 'police brutality' then the COPS would be getting in trouble...
all of you really bailed out your friend by rioting.. now she has NO chance of fighting her case (if in-face this even happened)...
How would you condone starting a fire and putting many peoples lives in danger.. including law enforcement???
Selfish idiot....

in-fact*******

in-fact*******

All you ksu students and ex-students - I am an alum. Welcome to the Beacon Journal's judgment corner. Don't pay any attention to these "know-it-alls" They love to pick on anyone who doesn't agree with them and lump people into categories. The fact that they can do so anonymously is the appeal. If they had to sign their names, you would see something entirely different. So, don't get sucked into their world.

Most of us reasonable people in the real world know that there are good and bad in any community, and the good sometimes get lumped in when bad things happen.

Slovensko
Canton, OH

Posted 08:54 AM, 04/26/2009

Another Black Eye for Kent State. .


FEAR THE ' ROO. . .

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SO TRUE!! LMFAO!!

you are all losers. The cops once again choked as they always do. They are typical insecure losers who feel like superman with a badge on. Proven last night.

Keep throwing women to the ground by their faces. You deserve to be hit in the face by a bottle. The cops started all of the problems. As does ANY government intervention in anything.

sweet back tattoo you white trash

Please, all you people who weren't there, keep giving us your input! You have already made up your mind that the college kids were to blame in this situation before you even heard the story. So, as someone who was there, and not intoxicated, here is the real story: The cops arrested a girl and handcuffed her, her friend (who was not handcuffed) walked over to the arresting officer and appeared to tap him on the shoulder and ask him a question. The cop immediately turned and hit the girl in the face, with an open palm, knocking her to the ground. This prompted some people to throw bottles at the officer who had hit the girl. I don't think that the student's were right in throwing the bottles, but someone must hold the officer responsible for hitting the girl in the face. This was a peaceful day of relaxing and partying, until a cop struck a girl in the face.

Magpie what exactly are you talking about???
Maybe you should read the story again...
You people... lol

ksu your story only shows who is to blame for this... the students..
If you have 100 students protesting with the same story against ONE cop who's the judge/jury/prosecutor going to believe?
THINK

ANYONE in their right mind should know better then to walk up to a police officer, in the middle of an arrest, especially at an event like this, and tap him on the shoulder. That Officer wouldn't have known WHO was walking up to him or WHY.

Theres been numerous incidents lately with Police Officers being killed and attacked. Let the Officer do his job, and if you feel you must interfere, dont be surprised when you touch the Officer and get hands put on you. (if that's even what happened)

I would just like to know when it became ok to walk up to a police officer arresting someone and do anything? Guess my parents just raised me better...

I would like to see some kind of profile of the people arrested that includes ages and where, if anywhere, they attend school. My guess is that this debacle drew not only KSU students but high school kids, students from other campuses, and non-students looking for adventure and trouble.

Given the danger fire presents in an city setting, I think the police response was quite restrained. The very notion that the police caused the riot is ludicrous.

@ Take a Stand, you are right, in a situation like this you never come up from behind and touch anyone let alone a cop. He's looking to protect "his space" he wouldn't know if he was about to get hit with sonething or someone was going to jump on him!! In that kind of group where anything can happen and usually does nobody is watching his back but him. Protect yourself.

angry,

Nice attitude. It's not the community, the police of anybody on this forum's fault that you can't party and handle your alcohol. You sound like quite the little entitled brat and that speaks really well to Mr. and Mrs. Angry. The good news is the real world is waiting for you in a few months or years and, by all appearances, you'll be eaten alive and be serving me my quad-shot espressos.... and I won't be tipping.

ksu1121,

OK, he wasn't right and that's an entirely separate issue from everything that occurred after that. End of story.

"Marc" and "take a stand,"
you both bring up good points, and under different circumstances I would agree with you. However, the police officer acknowledged the girl's questions, so he did know who was tapping him on the shoulder, he was just talking to her. I do understand that cops, especially lately, have been getting killed on the job. But do you really think that this was the case yesterday? Remember, before the cop hit that girl, people were peaceful. So are you really arguing that since cops are being killed, they have the right to turn and hit a person? Also, were are not in some big city, or the ghetto, at that moment, do you really think that officer feared for his life? The rioting didn't start until after that so he would have had no reason to.

The original loser,

Getting my masters in 2 weeks.....shut up. Secondly, cops are jokes, everyone of them is an insecure loser who thrives on power. If the cops weren't there none of this would have happened. That point is not open for debate, and since you were not there you have no say on the matter.

"kentsucks" you were there, huh? I find it kind of funny that you're so lame you leave Akron and go to Kent to attend these parties, then use these public forums to ridicule your party grounds. Were you afraid partying in Akron would draw real bullets from drive-bys (or your own basketball players) rather than rubber bullets? You're a loser...

Like I said, no tip.

I'm sure the property owners feel the cops have the right to be there. Sniffle, sniffle, little boy.

"original jason":

I know that he wasn't right. But how can you say that's a completely seperate issue? That is what started the whole thing. That wasn't the end of the story, that was the beginning! I know those kids were wrong, but so was that officer, so much like the kids, why isn't he being held accountable for what he did? Those kids deserved to be arrested for starting the fires in the streets, and throwing bottles at the police. But that cop also deserves a proper punishment for what he did too. That's all I am asking for is a little bit of justice both ways, instead of just pointing the finger at the college kids as if it was all their fault.

angry,

So, if you're graduating with your masters, does that make you at least 23 or 24? Are you the old clinging dude that still hangs around college life that creeps everyone out? Well played. I'm sure your cred will zoom up when you move back in with mom and dad.

jason,

just curious, because someone is 23 or 24, and getting their masters, which is probably more than you can say for yourself, that makes them a clingy dude? I guess I was unaware that furthering your education was grounds for insult. You referred to 23 or 24 year old "angry" was if he was 50, which is probably how old you really are. I don't understand why your insulting someone for giving their opinion? Is it because you do not agree with it? Maybe you are the one who lacks the "cred" you spoke of earlier. "Cred," nice word by the way, were you trying to lump yourself in with the rest of the finger pointing people over the age of 40?

angry,

Behind that remarkable recommendation to buy rental properties elsewhere is the logical and real-world conclusion that adults hanging out with college-aged kids (not pointing any fingers) would no longer have a place to cling to their undergrad youth (again, not pointing any fingers) as owners flee, values plummet and the city condemns the homes as a public nuisance.

Please keep up the personal attacks as I sit where I sit and you sit with an extra set of keys to mom and dad's crib. I won't bother posting my credentials because people who have to actively seek to justify their cred are sad and usually have to advertise their credentials for a reason. I don't look down on people based on their profession. I only look down on others with character flaws, such as yourself.

Did you ever see Old School? Good movie, huh?

KSU,

You don't know anything about me, but what I do know about YOU is that you are the one who can't handle responsibility and can't break down a situation for what it is as has been expressed countless times here. Good luck incorporating those traits into life success.

angry,

Sure, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

This is a blog about college? I thought it was a news story about crimes that took place in the community last night.

"Frank the Tank, Frank the Tank"

you said you don't look down on people because of their professions, why then were you telling "angry" that he would be serving you your espresso? Wouldn't that in itself, be viewed as looking down on people who actually do that? Seems to me, that you might consider getting off your high horse. And don't be too worried about my success. Your problem is that everything you have said you detest in your posts, have been qualities that you possess. (i.e. you saying I don't know anything about you, and then in the next line claiming you know something about me) you keep contradicting yourself, were you never taught how to express an opinion and have an open debate? Whenever people have proved you wrong, you just attack them with lines like, "good luck incorporating those traits into life success." Obviously you think of yourself as a mature person, do you really want to resort to insults, and funny quips that you think have an impact on me? Here's a thought, good luck to you on becoming a reasonable human being as I am sure you are much closer to the point of no return then I am.

ksu1121,

OK, so I look down on you, angry and baristas. I've been pinned down and trapped by my own words.

That said, you're still the own trying to justify last night's criminal events by a cop's actions (who was physically touched, mind you). That's the ultimate point here.

Yes he was "touched" by a female. Still doesn't give him the right to shove her down by the face. He should have realized what he was doing before he forced her to the ground. And the point still remains....everyone would have had a good night if the STUPID cops would have gotten involved. YOU CANT ARGUE THAT.

Frank the Tank,

You're half my age? Are you sure about that? Don't confuse my having a career, an upcoming residence not shared with my parents and not hanging around with college undergrads as meaning that I'm over the age of, say, 30.

Now, I'm going to go enjoy the rest of this fine day before heading back to work tomorrow. I'll probably be back later if you care to leave me some more of your attempts at self-justification, of which I'll probably feel obliged to respond despite knowing it's a waste of time to give you more attention. If I don't check back in, good luck proofreading your resume and playing Xbox tomorrow.

Jason,

Thank you for conceding, and again I will say that I am not justifying the criminal actions that took place last night. Read my posts, my point was, I know that the kids were wrong, they deserve what they got. However, I feel that the cop also deserves some form of punishment. Hence earlier I said that there should be justice BOTH WAYS. Meaning for the cop, and the unruly students. So please don't put any words in my mouth, I certainly won't put any in yours.

ksu1121,

When people say "x, but y," they are diminishing x. That's a fact that you are ignoring.

@KSU1121. Police Officers can be killed/attacked anywhere. Standing in the middle of thousands of people making an arrest and someone taps you on the shoulder? Ya, I think that this Officers awareness would have been "heightened" compared to if he was standing on a kindergarten playground. Im not saying he was right or wrong (because I wasn't there) but does anyone in their right mind really think its ok to go touch a cop while he's making an arrest and not expect to get hands put back on you??

However, whether the Officer was right or wrong doesn't give thousands of people the right to begin a riot. If there were that many witnesses they could have easily filed a complaint and I'm sure 19 Action News would have decended and covered the story!

According to the Ohio Revised Code all these "kids" were committing Aggravated Rioting (Felony 4), Aggravated Arson (Felony 1) and Felonious Assault (Felony 1). So I have no sympathy for any of them that got hit with rubber bullets or sprayed with tear gas and now want to cry about it. I hope the cops review all of these pictures and video tape posted everywhere and go after EVERY person involved and charge them all! It's time everyone starts taking responsibility for their actions!

I guess I will just watch the Cavs game and then get a good night sleep because I have to work one of my two jobs tomorrow, while going to school full time. I don't think I will do any proofreading of my resume though, because I already have a job lined up. Am I tooting my own horn, no. But I am not going to sit here and let you pretend like you know me.Congratulations on having your own place though, at the ripe old age of what again? I am sure when I am (insert your age here) I too will own a house. I guess for now, I will just have to suffer in the apartment that I pay rent for. So you really hit the nail on the head judging me. Hopefully you, and let me guess, your girlfriend that you just bought a "residence" don't raise your children as close minded as you were raised. Enjoy your day, and the 9-5 middle-management job that you probably have. I look forward to hearing back from you.

Frank,

Geez, are you STILL talking and saying things that aren't true?

Also, how do you reconcile your absolvement stance with current students that have posted here (lay off them, Frank) who are embarrassed by YOUR actions from last night? It seems in your attempt to frame this as a generational issue (even though we're close to the same age, chronologically, at least), you overlook the KSU students who recognize a meathead for a meathead. Oops, that'll be difficult to spin.

Now, I'm actually leaving. Feel free to reply 3-4x with statements to make your feel better about yourself.

Later, bro.

ksu1121,

Here's a tip. When a sentence leads off with this

"angry,"

...followed by a blank line, it means it's addressed to the person in the first line. Interesting that you also think I'm [insert old age here], but I guess we'll just have to attribute our maturity differences to a variety of factors.

And I wasn't diminishing x. I was simply trying to call awareness to the fact that there were wrongs committed by both sides. Does the students wrongs outweigh the police's? Yes. Does that give an authority figure the right to hit a girl in the face. no. I just don't see how you are disputing that. Bottom line is, the police have a reasonable responsibility to "know better," whether that is just or unjust, is not the question. "Take A Stand," I like your argument, and I do agree with you. But just like the people on this blog are proving right now, who would listen to a bunch of college kids, even if they did speak out? In my experiences, no one. And please get something straight, he was not actually in the process of arresting the girl. It had just happened, and he was standing off to the side while his partner questioned the handcuffed girl. So its not as if she went up and tapped him on the shoulder while he was handcuffing the girl.

Jason,

Are you questioning my maturity? You have addressed your posts to Frank, or Frank the Tank, and have said later bro. Let me guess, when you said "reconcile your absolvement stance" you were actually thinking of ways to sound intelligent? And I won't spin recognizing a meathead for a meathead. When did that become the issue that we were talking about? I hate meatheads, I don't need to spin that. You keep trying to spin the fact that a cop hit a girl in the face after being tapped on the shoulder during a peaceful block party. So please exercise some of that immense brain power you seem to think you have, and remember what the real issue at hand is.

Realist

Like you are any better, I was under the impression that we were having a discussion about what happened last night. I guess that makes sense then why you said that you hope all college students get swine flu. You are no better than the college students, and I don't think we are always right. I said over and over that both parties were in the wrong. Aren't you the one whose being a little closed minded?

"Fest turns rowdy". Rowdy? ROWDY?! A-holes, every one of 'em. Guess they have to get ready for their glorifying of the 1970 turkey-shoot.

More stupid little skulls filled with mush of the worst political recipe possible.

Reality demands police shoot arsonists with live ammunition to stop them from starting a fire in the next block!

The Parties on college street were all under control, there was no rioting or havoc arising what so ever at any of the parties, around 7-8ish is about the time all of the police grouped up at the end of college street, they then proceeded to move in a pack down college street screaming out to clear the street, as they were doing so, they FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER Started firing their mace bombs and rubber bullets. In my honest opinion, if the police just kept a slight on the street parties throughout the night, and did not interfere, i believe that the students would just partied the night out and there would have been NO RIOTING AT ALL! The cops should not have initiated the shooting and mace bombs. it is their fault fires were lit, bottles were thrown, and riots were started. I believe that they should have at some point dispersed the parties, but they went about it in completely the wrong manner, so for those police offices who got hit with bottles. GOOD! You asked for it when u decided to clear the street in a VERY UNPROFESSIONAL manner!
K S U

Did you not read anything I wrote? Because if you did, I answered all of those questions along time ago. So rather than typing it again, just scroll up.

Born and raised in OH. Lots of in-grained in grown stuff to stretch young wings at when I was young. Been there with CSN&Y--this is hardly a 4 Dead in Ohio number. It's vaguely more like a scene from Pink Floyd's "The Wall". But really it's just a mob scene turned riot. As far as any Code of Chivilry goes, it lost it's crusade motive potential with Liberation. There were smarter things to do than surprise a cop in the middle of an arrest, no matter where you are in the world. But, yeah, excessive force is excessive force. If it's excessively in-grained in the system, that's not so good. And...I would not want to be subject to what police are subject to. There are many of us Ohioans transplanted everywhere. The world is a soup. It doesn't get a whole lot better anywhere else, really. Just different.

Guess what? These are our future leaders. Think things are bad now, just wait until they get thier turn.

These people are not to blame, and neither are the cops. Remember, people are born that way and they have no control over how they act. We are just bigots for not liking what they do, or we have riotphobia. LOL

i was there and i burnt stuff. it was sweet i dont care what you people say. best night ever and all the local PD's can bite me. they didnt shoot at me and i started two fires. eat it

Realist,

No, the police were not right doing what they were doing. They should have never hit that girl, at that point, there had been no violence. The rioters were also not right. That is the point, both parties took part in some actions that were not right.

students overreacted-cops overreacted.it's a wash.good scrimmage for may 4 though.i like the students this year-they had a good draft with speed on the corners.go team!

^And I suppose you failed to get any video of it.

Of course I don't have video of it. I was out celebrating my 4.0 GPA, getting sloshed with my buddies. I don't keep a high def camera in my pocket in case a random riot breaks out.

Well seeing as how not too many people can predict the future, how were people supposed to get video of that? It was completely peaceful until that moment so no one had any reason to be video taping the cops. However, if you feel like going to youtube and doing some searching, you can find a ton of video of what happened right after that.

It's hilarious how many random people are commenting away about an event in which they had no contact with, thus having no clue what happened.


I guess everyone wants to be heard, even if they have nothing to say.

@dickshoo I can not even come up with a reply to your statement of "its a shame none of the officers got shot/seriously injured". All I can say is I wish there was a list people like you would be put on so the Police would never have to respond to you when you actually call. To make a statement like that goes to show exactly who the Officers were dealing with last night, and im my opinion, makes them that much more justified in what they did.

I hope you and "sp9" are identified on video/photo and charged accordingly for your actions last night, since you seem so proud of them. Or maybe if you feel you were so "justified" in your actions, why dont you guys just go right down to the Police Department and take responsibility?? I highly doubt that one though!

sp9, might want to watch what you admit to. Yeah you're annonymous to us but not to the beacon.

Wonder what Akron's may day will be like this year???

It will probably be crazy just like every other year. I don't get why this event got so much attention. Akron on May Day is nuts, people flip cars and set houses on fire when Ohio State beats Michigan, but this gets national news attention?

I am not telling you who to take your "play by play" from. Just curious I guess that this was really important enough to get national news attention in the first place.

To Slovensko and RowdyZ, you must be very very very upset. Stick with what you know.....nothing. Fear the roo? Say something intelligent will you?

Rubber bullets are certainy better than live ammunition? Certainly this could have been handled differently? Four Dead in Ohio - Neil Young? THis is distrubing on both sides of the equation? Have a feeling law enforcement might be more intelligent than the intoxicated students - apparantly not?

Not hit a girl in the face for no reason is these posts are accurate the truth will come out and again support law enforcment when appropriate - tear gas and rubber bullets beforehand if is what occurrec incited the situation as many on the forum have stated - the behavior of the students, again, is not acceptable. Hope the truth comes out and those responsible are help accountable?

I am amazed as I peruse the comments- It's the officers fault? Get a life people! Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows you do not interfere with an arrest in progress- period!

Perhaps the police should have let the students do as they pleased. Then there would have been outcry when innocent students were hurt by drunken party goers, landlords would be outraged when their properties were damaged & so on.

Only a small percentage of the students were acting out & the majority are there for an education, but it unfortunately reflectspoorlyon the entire campus.

The bottom line is don't do stupid sh#t, get out of the street when you're told & there are consequences for your actions- even for students!

Welcome to the real world- life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid!!

@ sp9-

Nice... I am certain your parents are very proud of your activities!

There is some good video floating around the internet of some of the firestarters in action & hopefully you are among them when the police start reviewing it for additional charges.

Given the fact that you're admitting to committing felonies, your posts are most likely open to subpeona in order to obtain your IP & a subsequent search warrant for your ISP.

Is your "pucker factor" starting to rise you little POS? It should be!

I'll be laughing as the Po-Po are kicking in your door- tell them "bite me" & see what happens then.

Jafo

Thanks for that "welcome to the real world" bit of advice. I have never heard that before, I am glad you threw your two cents in and told me. She wasn't interfering with an arrest in progress. She tapped a cop on the shoulder that she had just been talking with. I don't think anyone is really arguing that the police should have done nothing. I think people are trying to make it known that yesterday was peaceful, until a cop hit a girl. Then it got out of control, and the cops did what they had to, to put and end to it. I just find it hard to believe that no one will agree with the fact that what that officer did was wrong. Don't get me wrong, what the students did in response was wrong and unwarranted. But so was what that officer did.

Oh Dickshoo, I pray that those words come back to haunt you.

they should have just used live ammunition on those kent state hoodlums.

What a sh*thole that place is.

If the author of the above post does not get banned, this paper has no credibility

who me?

Is that not a violation of First Ammendment Rights? If you threaten people that share the truth with others - then we evolve into a fascist or Communist state that did not understand Marxist - Socilaist reality? If we all got along none of this would be happening? Good luck? ACLU should look into the stifling or free speech as have indicated before - and just like the nightmare at the SCJ - hopefully, regardless they will look into this?

Jafo - thought this was America and people could abide by the first Ammendment - apparantly not - if people are threatened in the way you have then truth never sees the light of day? good, Bad, or Otherwise - lets lock up all the reporters at the ABJ and live in a free country?

KSU11

The cop hit her in the face because she was being a cant. Ooops wrong vowel.

My philosophy has always been- put large distances between myself and cops when in partying situations and fires, and riots and such.

as a student of kent, I dont agree with both sides of the story. ITS NOT MAY 4 and nothing like it so get over it.

everyone knew about the huge party weeks before it would actually take place. if you look, there are pictures of HUNDREDS of people lining the street at 5 o'clock. the cops knew about all of this and i feel like they let it get that far. it could have been stopped at 4 before mass amounts of drunk student got even worse. now i dont blame everything one the police. the students are at fault too BUT all day they got away with it and when things got major horrible thats when they were like how could this have happened! it happened because the police let it...

Its nice to read these heart warming stories about the college educated professionals of tomorrow.

Keep it up, kids. Times are different than the pandering to the idiots in '70. Great.....our future leaders showing their true potential.

More dead in O-hi-o.

Attention, all you skulls fulla mush! If you do not listen to AUTHORITY after REPEATED warnings to disperse, you get spanked. The police are to be listened to and obeyed. You mess with the bull, you get the horns.

Unfortunately, this lesson was never learned by you as children, what with "don't make me count to three" & "time out, young man" parenting.

Thunder31,

This is what we get when society says that a person cannot control their actions. Just wait until they get in charge. May the saint gore help us all. It must be global warming, or global climate change or Bush's fault.

An embarassment to all of northeast Ohio.

and next week there will be more ksu stupidity because of the may 4th thing. let's see how that goes.

To the students on this comment page. You need to keep in mind that Kent, Ohio has more people living in it then just college students. There are families with homes who pay property taxes living there. There is also business' that employ many people. The police are there to protect the residence of Kent.

DAG823, hannaman, Spirit of Reagan, ouch, BMW: ALL of you know the truth of the matter, and I sincerely appreciate seeing your posts scattered throughout the dope haze out there today.

I once was at a bar, went to leave the bar and saw 4 police cars parked across the street at the bowling alley. The second I pulled out, I was pulled over and got a DUI. Being the 24 year old I was, I wanted to blame the cops for sitting there waiting for me. The reality of the situation was that I was driving drunk, regardless of how I was caught. If you don't accept responsibility for your own actions, your actions will get worse and worse.

Where I come from (the U.S.A.!!!), anyone with an IQ > 80 should know that it's not a good idea to ASSAULT A POLICE OFFICER during an arrest or any other time. I hope the stupid witch is charged with assault and inciting a riot.
Maybe she wasn't even a student but a townie pro trying to drum up business.
By the way, Thunder31, you 'da man!

hannaman,

Great post, but I'm betting it falls on deaf ears.

Here's how I see the day going down. Great weather, a huge party along a section of street. The street wasn't closed off, the revelers treat it as a big block party. As the day goes on, police decide that before dark they need to restore some order before things get out of control.

They walk the street telling the party goers (many of whom are now drunk) to get out of the street, or off the sidewalks. The party goers don't like the buzz kill mentality. Besided that, they don't have to listen to the police because they're not doing anything wrong.

Then some girl is being questioned/arrested by the police, and another girl got involved, and was hit/slapped/thrown to the ground. The kids (actually adults of college age, who should know better than a kid) get upset at how she is treated and start to riot.

They just wanted to be left alone to drink all night, walk the streets, blast the loud music, and generally act like a bunch of rowdies. Who are the police to tell them what they do.

The police may have done something wrong. But reacting by rioting, burning things, tearing things down, and general civil disobedience is definitely wrong. I hope some of you learn a lesson. But most likely you'll just hate the police and authority and blame them. Some day when you grow up and become responsible you'll realize how wrong you were.

Were any of you people actually there? Just curious, because you seem to have it all figured out. I think some of you might just be too smart for your own good. At least there was some good discussion taking place yesterday, today is poor. You guys are really playing the whole " these are out future leaders " card a bit too often. Are you implying that the small number of students involved on Saturday night means there are no good leaders in my generation? That only makes you sound like foolish old people who just can't stand today's youths. Do you not remember your own generation's woes? Is it really fair to make these vast generalities about my generation as a result of the actions of few? Also, if you really think this gives a black eye to northeast Ohio, you live in a pessimistic dream world. Every year, colleges around the country have similar or worse things that happen on and around campus. To think that this will leave a lasting impact on people across the country is plain old wrong.

"talkin' 'bout my generation....." Pre-festivities are over, and now for the main event: Homage to the bell-ringing, with a trip to their Mecca, a bullet hole in a sculpture.

Don't get me wrong. history IS important. However, you kids will blanket over the true importance with more protesting over events that have no bearing whatsoever on the event at hand, then you'll cart out aged repeat-speakers harping on the same Chomsky / Alinsky soapbox that they've used for the past 20 years.

Thunder 31,

What exactly is it that you do that makes you the foremost expert on the matter? I don't think any of the people on this blog brought May 4th into it, until you did. Are you a news reporter who covered the story, or even a student of faculty member that was there? Or are you a bitter old finger pointer who has nothing better to do with your time except give your two cents about something irrelevant to the matter at hand. You "know-it-all's" are awesome.

Irrelevant? Don't you even realize that both of these events will tie together? Surely you're not that naive! And why was it not brought up until now? Maybe I'm just observant, son. I'm alo a volunteer officer with the boys in blue. Might I have seen this scenario play out too many times?

College Fest, an annual Kent State University spring rite marked by drinking and general hanging out on College Avenue.

Perhaps Kent State needs to cancel College Fest next year, due to rowdy and crazy student behavior.

Have you seen this same scenario play out too many times? And, I am not your son. Don't use that term to belittle me as I am sure that is what your intention was. Congratulations on being a volunteer officer too, wouldn't that make your perspective just a little jaded? And no, I feel that this is event is over. It is hardly a comparison to the events that took place on May 4th. So I would be that 30 years from now, this will be nothing but a distant memory for the small group of people who were there, as opposed to May 4th, which is something that effected so many lives across the nation.

ksu1121.....not one mention of May 4th? Are you really that ignorant? Scroll up, son. Many posts refer to CSN&Y, National Guard, for dead in O-HI-O.....why, Toxic nut even calls it a scrimmage for May 4th! Spew forth some knowledge when you have your facts and accusations straight.

ksu1121.....I did not say it was a comparison. One event will follow the other, and the typical a@@holes that love to goad the stupid into stupid acts will do their best to try to instigate a part II. Don't put words in my mouth. And why ask me if this is something I have seen many times over when I already told you it was? Your congratulating me for volunteering, followed with my "jaded view".....you crack me up. The best of luck to you and all your endevours. Be safe, son.

hannaman, your post was awesome. Good writing!

Yes, people referred to Crosby Stills Nash and Young, and made other ignorant comments about this being a scrimmage for May 4th. But no one argued the comparison of Saturday, to May 4th, until you. Also, I asked you if you have seen this before so many times, because I don't believe that you have. Has there been riots every year, and I just don't remember them? Has Kent, gained national news coverage every year as a result of street parties and I just didn't hear? Why did you not respond to my earlier post, "What exactly is it that you do that makes you the foremost expert on the matter? I don't think any of the people on this blog brought May 4th into it, until you did. Are you a news reporter who covered the story, or even a student of faculty member that was there? Or are you a bitter old finger pointer who has nothing better to do with your time except give your two cents about something irrelevant to the matter at hand. You "know-it-all's" are awesome." Did you run out of answers? If you read my blogs, I proposed that both sides, both students and police, did some things that were wrong. Obviously the students' actions outweighed the police's. I was simply trying to point out the fact that both did wrong. So, please sir, good luck to you. Hopefully one day you might open up your mind to some other possibilities than the students being the root of all evil. I'll be safe, don't you worry about that. Keep up the good work volunteering too, you give a real good name to the police force of Kent.

ksu1121,

I am not from Ohio, but am interested in all the arguing on this page. Were you actually there when it happened? I don't mean for it to sound accusing, just want to know of you witnessed it or not.

Too bad the national guard wasn't called.

Can't read. Can't write. Can't party.

ksu, you don't listen, you don't read. I said other posters referred to May 4th, as well. Yet you claim I made an ignorant comment about "a scrimmage". Sorry, I did not. That was another poster. However, your fact checking does not bother to scroll and view, as others do. I work for Kent? Did I say that? Did I say I witnessed this type of action many times in Kent?

After watching the videos on youtube I question everyone who says they were there.. I did NOT see any cops hit anyone.. but lemme guess no one caught that part on camera right?
Spare me you idiots.

Holy s***, ksu. Are you still arguing with people? The videos are posted. Let's let sober eyes be the judge.

KSU1121,
Why do you have such a hard-on for Thunder31? So far his posts have been concise, factual, and reasonable. You, on the other hand, seem unable to do anything but spew forth inaccurate, accusatory, and ignorant drivel. Too much LSD?

Get off my lawn, thank you. I appreciate someone who sincerely sees the big picture. Honestly, I don't wish to continue this nonsense any more, because I'm basically having what I say twisted to fit his / hers agenda. Original_Jason, 100% right on.

By the way, get off my lawn, SUPER parrot! Yours?

For yrs kent Police have been Pu-says- they are reactive instead of proactive- leave the good law abiding students alone, go after the out of order drunk punks- use a lot of nite-stick education like back in the 60's-
Kent State motto i think is: hell no we won't learn we'll just drink and pee urine.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA
As I said before I AM A KENT STATE STUDENT. and if I may recall, more than half of the people that were arrested were NOT students. So don't put the blame on kent state and the STUDENTS that go there. I work full time and go to school full time so when people say things about "our future generation" it is downgrading on us students that work hard and want to suceed in life. Quit being stereotypical of Kent State.

The PEOPLE that got arrested will get what they deserve so calm down.

I love how every time something happens at kent, it is never the students. its always the townies.

thunder31
The bird is mine...and what comes out of his mouth makes more sense than a lot of these yahoos.

Assemble a bunch of cops from other departments and not have a riot would make chief peach look bad. So you insite a riot and you do not look bad. Take people off property they own or rent and arrest them to cover your actions of spending lots of money to get the "swat" team together. The arresting of people who were on own property especially people on porches going into own houses is abuse of power. When you pay for a residence you have the right to be in and on it.

Yup be a big man pick on someone smaller than you and throw them to the ground you are a big man in your twisted world.

David, did your dad help burn down the ROTC building, May 4th?

Let's just solve the problem.

Here is how it is done....

1. Make it a block party.

2. Try to get a radio station involved to make
it legite.

3. Hire rent a cops w/ orange cones to block off the road entrance.

4. Make guests show invitations. (P.S. you can still print out a lot of invitations).

Two rent-a-cops for 6 hours will cost you about $240.00

Split 40 ways, is not a lot of dough.

Actually, these young kids w/ asperations of a free non facist country, inspire me.

We need to encourage and teach these kids, not chastise them.

There borred off their T??t. Kids of their age in other countries are holding AK-47's. They got Sh@@t to do. We have the most borring young adults in the worl. Who has less liberty than them.

If you decide to follow my advice. Send me an invitation to that party @ boredoutofmytit@automd.us

I smell a rat - you answered the question the original realist asked - might have tried no time in the past few days - awesome ideas - as to Jafu have not heard a peep out of him - thank God as then the truth will never be heard.

FYI...

Jafo and the Original Realist have always had a bias towards law enforcement.

I'm going to take a wild guess and bet they are cops, married to one, or related.

good, the students finally need to stand up to the excessive denouncements and citations they are receiving from the police forces. This is college; it was the same way back then as it was now. Students drink on the porches, they get rowdy and they get drunk. OMG lets pretend we're important and arrest everyone. The police need to get a life and stop being jealous at the students just because they didn't go to college.
Everyone needs to understand that the police were the ultimate catalyst of these events, they drove students to the edge. LAY OFF and stop trying to ruin everyone's college experience!

debur, most of these students won't even graduate because this is what they consider college. Sorry, it's not. Your post could have been one of the most ignorant that I've ever read.

Debur college is about your education. It's about bettering yourself, but more importantly to prepare yourself for the future. NOT to be an alchy lol......