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By Marilyn Miller
Beacon Journal staff writer
POSTED: 05:52 p.m. EDT, Aug 08, 2009
A confrontation at an apartment complex in Cuyahoga Falls has prompted a tenant to file a discrimination suit against OLJ Management out of Columbus.
The suit, filed by the Fair Housing Advocates Association, charges that a manager used a German shepherd to harass and intimidate African-American children living at the apartment complex.
The teens told housing advocates that the manager cursed at them and confronted them with the dog.
''Given the racial history of our country, her actions were definitely inappropriate,'' said Vincent Curry, executive director of Fair Housing.
The manager, Kim Meyers, 43, who is white, said she brought the dog to work for protection. She said children at the complex have trampled flower beds, thrown rocks on the roof and vandalized picnic tables.
''Things are not out of control, I just want people to follow the rules,'' said Meyers, who has managed Pleasant Meadow Village complex on Pleasant Meadow Boulevard for just over a year.
Meyers said she received two calls within 15 minutes on July 15 of unruly behavior at the apartments — one for a broken window and one for kids climbing in trees.
Meyers said she called police and went to the apartments with her dog.
She said she walked around the complex with her dog and waited for officers to arrive.
Falls police have no record of the incident. Police records document 18 incidents since Meyers has been manager. They range from trespassing to loitering to threats among tenants.
Meyers said when she brought her dog last month, she confronted about 10 children ''of all sizes, all ages and all races.''
Meyers said she receives constant complaints from tenants that they are intimidated by large groups of teenagers. About 35 children reside at the 75-unit complex that caters to low-income residents.
''I had the dog on a leash. I know a lot of people are afraid of dogs, but Taz was not barking and was not lashing out,'' Meyers said. ''I told them if they were afraid of the dog, then stay away, don't tease him and don't taunt him.''
She said her dog is about 10 years old and is not aggressive.
Tenant Nicole Tatum, 31, who filed the complaint, said she was standing in her doorway watching the children.
''I saw the manager approach the children with the dog,'' Tatum said. ''I stepped outside, but didn't say anything. I just observed.''
She said the manager then accused her daughter of climbing in the trees. A verbal confrontation ensued.
''I told her I didn't appreciate her cursing at the children, disregarding their feelings about their fear of the dog and trying to confront my daughter when I'm standing right here,'' Tatum said.
Meyers said she gave Tatum a violation letter for breaking the rules of the lease contract.
''I wrote her up basically for disorderly conduct, she was yelling and disturbing the peace,'' Meyers said, adding she noted in the violation that the little girl had climbed a tree.
Four violations can result in eviction from the complex.
''I have no problem with rules, but I want them enforced for everybody, not just randomly picking on African-American kids accusing them of doing things with no firsthand knowledge,'' Tatum said of her first violation. ''I feel it's retaliation because I spoke up.''
Tatum said she has lived in the complex for about a year.
''Everyone got along and my kids had many white friends,'' she said. ''I teach my kids to respect other people and to look at people, like people, not by color.''
Meyers said she plans to implement additional rules that will discourage children from congregating at the complex, including a ban on playing in the parking lot.
Meyers said she also plans to set up a neighborhood crime watch.
''I don't like drama,'' Meyers said. ''I'm responsible for the people who live here, their safety and well-being. I take my job very seriously.''
The complaint filed against the complex will be reviewed by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Marilyn Miller can be reached at 330-996-3098 or mmiller@thebeaconjournal.com.
A confrontation at an apartment complex in Cuyahoga Falls has prompted a tenant to file a discrimination suit against OLJ Management out of Columbus.
The suit, filed by the Fair Housing Advocates Association, charges that a manager used a German shepherd to harass and intimidate African-American children living at the apartment complex.
The teens told housing advocates that the manager cursed at them and confronted them with the dog.
''Given the racial history of our country, her actions were definitely inappropriate,'' said Vincent Curry, executive director of Fair Housing.
The manager, Kim Meyers, 43, who is white, said she brought the dog to work for protection. She said children at the complex have trampled flower beds, thrown rocks on the roof and vandalized picnic tables.
''Things are not out of control, I just want people to follow the rules,'' said Meyers, who has managed Pleasant Meadow Village complex on Pleasant Meadow Boulevard for just over a year.
Meyers said she received two calls within 15 minutes on July 15 of unruly behavior at the apartments — one for a broken window and one for kids climbing in trees.
Meyers said she called police and went to the apartments with her dog.
She said she walked around the complex with her dog and waited for officers to arrive.
Falls police have no record of the incident. Police records document 18 incidents since Meyers has been manager. They range from trespassing to loitering to threats among tenants.
Meyers said when she brought her dog last month, she confronted about 10 children ''of all sizes, all ages and all races.''
Meyers said she receives constant complaints from tenants that they are intimidated by large groups of teenagers. About 35 children reside at the 75-unit complex that caters to low-income residents.
''I had the dog on a leash. I know a lot of people are afraid of dogs, but Taz was not barking and was not lashing out,'' Meyers said. ''I told them if they were afraid of the dog, then stay away, don't tease him and don't taunt him.''
She said her dog is about 10 years old and is not aggressive.
Tenant Nicole Tatum, 31, who filed the complaint, said she was standing in her doorway watching the children.
''I saw the manager approach the children with the dog,'' Tatum said. ''I stepped outside, but didn't say anything. I just observed.''
She said the manager then accused her daughter of climbing in the trees. A verbal confrontation ensued.
''I told her I didn't appreciate her cursing at the children, disregarding their feelings about their fear of the dog and trying to confront my daughter when I'm standing right here,'' Tatum said.
Meyers said she gave Tatum a violation letter for breaking the rules of the lease contract.
''I wrote her up basically for disorderly conduct, she was yelling and disturbing the peace,'' Meyers said, adding she noted in the violation that the little girl had climbed a tree.
Four violations can result in eviction from the complex.
''I have no problem with rules, but I want them enforced for everybody, not just randomly picking on African-American kids accusing them of doing things with no firsthand knowledge,'' Tatum said of her first violation. ''I feel it's retaliation because I spoke up.''
Tatum said she has lived in the complex for about a year.
''Everyone got along and my kids had many white friends,'' she said. ''I teach my kids to respect other people and to look at people, like people, not by color.''
Meyers said she plans to implement additional rules that will discourage children from congregating at the complex, including a ban on playing in the parking lot.
Meyers said she also plans to set up a neighborhood crime watch.
''I don't like drama,'' Meyers said. ''I'm responsible for the people who live here, their safety and well-being. I take my job very seriously.''
The complaint filed against the complex will be reviewed by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Marilyn Miller can be reached at 330-996-3098 or mmiller@thebeaconjournal.com.
Vincent Curry is a questionable character.
UNRULY - OUT OF CONTROL CHILDREN - DESTROYING PROPERTY AND NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES - WHERE ARE THE PARENTS ? LADY HAD A DOG - PROBEBLY FOR PROTECTION - DOGS FOR CROWD CONTROL - HEY MARCO - THERE PLAYING YOUR SONG
Come on people/ A crowd of kids out of control,climbing trees, and destroying flower gardens???????? I dont care what race, we must not allow people disregard rules and basic human decency.
* THEY'RE - SORRY
Just get it overwith and throw the kids in jail.
this is why the race card is disregarded anymore. this has nothing to do with race - just a bunch of unsupervised welfare kids.
If her dog looked anything like just an observers avitar I'd be scared too!
If more kids climbed trees and played outside instead of staying indoors on their play stations and computers maybe they wouldn't be getting into trouble. Change the rules.
olfuzzster - FLUFFY'S GOOD WITH CHILDREN
I think we all knew that development was gonna be trouble from the moment it was proposed. People living in an apartment/condo complex like that need to learn the first rule: You are in an enclosed environment, and must respect the privacy and right to peace-and-quiet of every other person living there.
35 kids in 75 units? Sounds like the place is overrun with kids. I'd get the rules enforced and get the riff-raff out of there. It's time today's youth learn some manners and decency.
Geez - why can't they all act like those well behaved "caucasian" Columbine children.
At 43 I doubt she is old enough to remember this part (about dogs) of civil rights history, and I doubly doubt that she would have learned this in high school. Don't most police departments have a canine unit?
She probably needed a dog for her protection. It sounds like the moms were more vicious defending their unruly kids instead of supervising them.
If the parents were outside with there children like they should be making them follow the rules instead of in the house or doorway watching them then they would know what there kids are doing but since they were't then please don't play the race card that is so old.
These are the same kids that get into trouble at school. Now it's summer and they get into trouble at home.
''Things are not out of control, I just want people to follow the rules, she saud, but if things are not out of control then why the dog?
Why did she bring a 10yr old dog to work? Kim Meyers, 43, who is white, said she brought the dog to work for protection. ....from what, are things out of control now in this sentence? Appears the manager can't make up her mind of what "out of control" means.
@mom23.... she is old enough to know bout the use of dogs in the 60's and she was also told bout this in school and/or at home.
She said she walked around the complex with her dog and waited for officers to arrive....BUT.... Falls police have no record of the incident, WAHT!
Meyers said she plans to implement additional rules that will discourage children from congregating at the complex, including a ban on playing in the parking lot.....is she having trouble with the kids that live at the complex or is this the neighborhood kids comin' on the property causing problems?
Meyers said. .." I take my job very seriously.'' who is she kiddin? obviously the compex owners just want the money or why else would they rent to families but have no recreation place for the kids to play.
@McDonald...Vince Curry is a very good person!
.....and she should bring out the fire hoses, as well.
This story has so many things wrong with it....
The tenant is full of **** that's one thing that seems obivous to me... no?
(I never said the manager was right either.)
Here we go again. You are picking on my kid because we are black. Gee, have I heard this before
Not only that, georgeus. You are picking on my kid who is black, and may grow up and prove to be gay or lesbian! Quit picking on my kid!!!
Yaaaaawn... The race card just ain't what it used to be. Nowadays, folks are being judged on their actions rather than their color. This was the goal, right?
Pleasant Meadow is a ghetto. The criminals that live there are worse than the trash on Prange drive.
An 8 year old tried to carjack me there 3 years ago.
Well Mr. Obama why don't we build more low income housing for our ever-increasing dependants? We have hit a new threshold in this Country, 35 million people now collect food stamps - not because everyone has loss their job en mass but because Obama and his administration has lowered the standards to receive gov't assistance. Little Johnny isn't going to get a job because why should he have to? "Lets just suck off the gov't teat like mommy". We cannot keep up this cradle to grave mentality - it is bankrupting European Countries and setting up generations of losers.
I am so sick of every time a black person gets in trouble,it is the "race" card.!!! This is just a convenient excuse for them. Get real, face the facts, this has nothing to do with race...it has everything to do with the fact this woman has no control of her kid!!!!!!!! Her daughter is nothing more than another deduction on her taxes (oh wait, she pays no taxes!!!!!) she is a dependent for additional welfare money.
@Gildee: There are no other neighbors, except the ones that live in this complex. Pleasant meadows is in an isolated part of Cuyahoga Falls, off Wyoga Lake rd. All the unruley kids live in THAT ghettoplex.
Go there in the day. How many kids do you see outside, and how many moms are out there supervising their lil ones? Even if there is a playground, trouble will brew if no parent is around.
since when is climbing a tree 'unruly' behavior.
People say kids are getting obese they needs to go outside and play, then when they go outside and climb trees that type of behavior is seen as unruly. Seriously folks, come on now.
Mind you, I don't condone trampling flower beds, breaking windows and the likes, but a tree is a tree is a tree. A kid or young adult isn't going to hurt it by climbing it. A tree isn't going to be destroyed if someone swings form a branch.
You would think we would rather see children playing in trees than creating chaos. This manager appears to believe the opposite and by going and yelling at the kids most likely just sparked greater rebellion in them.
''Given the racial history of our country, her actions were definitely inappropriate,'' said Vincent Curry, executive director of Fair Housing.
Wow, glad that was in the fourth paragraph, now I don't have to read the rest of the story, I already know where this one is going.
How is this racial? So its ok for 40 black kids to beat up a white family but its not ok for a white person to bring their dog to work for protection against the unruley black kids. And why hasn't there been anything in the paper about the 35 black kids from Akron that were at Rockin on the River Friday night and were beating up on one white kid. I suppose this will get pushed under the rug also.
Sick of the 'race card'? Try being one of THREE white students in a Constitutional Law class. THAT was exciting.
The way I see it is, that is how the majority of the kids are.....anywhere. Doesn't matter if it's a complex or not. There is "white trash" and there is "black trash". You are who you make yourself out to be. The kids are guided (or lack thereof)by their parents. i guess a lot of people do not care how they are perceived by others.
Follow the Golden Rule-treat others how you would like to be treated.
@grad student: I agree with you, but the trees in this ghettoplex are newly planted and too young to climb. These trees are thin-trunked, and shouldn't be climbed on.
UNRULY - OUT OF CONTROL CHILDREN - DESTROYING PROPERTY AND NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES - Sounds like our politicians, CEOs and Investors.
Broken windows, yelling, climbing trees...sounds like children playing to me.
Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin; that pay property tax; Supreme Court declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL four times; with money derived from wages or independent business profit; cannot file a law suit; against citizens that qualify for affirmative action; that pay property tax with housing vouchers!
@Grad Student, If you ever owned property you would know that as a property owner you are responsible for anyone getting hurt on it whether or not they have a right to be on that property.
Cool.. Lets lynch everybody...Burn em out...kill all the rabelrousers...Load up the prisond with
wrongdoers..oops there goes the country.
By the way. In Bridgeport OH and Barnsville OH they
have elderly housing run By a National Church Residence's and their manager has servealence camera's all over the building and he threatens
them with eviction if anyone complains about anything. No suit has been filed against this man,
but National Church Residences has been notified
about him and they think he's great. There is a National Church Residence in Cuyahoga Falls too,
so if the people at the other place arent content, they can put in application at Nationa Church Residence.
National Church Residence is the Cathedral Lane Complex owned by "The Cathedral"... I have talked to several Police Officers and area residence and the amount of drugs going through that building is astounding. It was built as a Christian home for the elderly, like many other complexes, when that demographic couldn't afford it anymore, the management opened it to low income qualified residents with all their problems (ie: drugs, crime, fights, etc). Sad how a few people ruin it for everyone.
notice no mention of fathers around
The residents need to remember it is NOT their property, and they are to respect the management rules. The trees are too thin to climb without damaging them. Kids play everywhere w/o breaking windows. It is called RESPECT. These moms need to teach this to their children.
These sec.8 queens are lucky they found someone willing to rent to them, I own rentals and I learned my lesson and no longer even consider it just for this reason, the moms let the kids terrorize the neighborhood,period.
Sounds like a similar bunch of teen animals who now live in apartments in a suburb (Sec8), who were at a nice quiet park yelling obscenities, yelling at white moms telling them what they would like to do to them, commenting on various parts of their anatomy, etc. All this while little kids were playing around them. Don't have the common sense of a toad.
Judy; notice no mention of fathers around.
Fathers day-the most confusing day of their lives.
Lawsuits like this one detract from the truly egregious situations for which this type of tort exists.
I highly doubt that those kids were alive when dogs were being used in Mississippi, nor were there 31 yr old parent(s), so the "racial history of our country" ought have no bearing on the situation. What a crock.
Now, if she was threatening to sick the dog on the kids, or only reprimanding black kids with the dog present when white kids were misbehaving too, that would be different, but I must have missed that part of the story.
She should have called child services on that mother. Those kids were out of control.
Certainly sounds like TNB. What a joke of a parent.
Well we can commit when it is a black person suing a white person but we cannot commit when black thugs asssault white families.
Seems like the R card is held by the ABJ
typical crappy minorities parent skills 101/ my child is a victum come on just keep your kids under control and shut up
@ grad student -
I'll tell you when climbing trees became "unruly behavior": when the first tenant sued a landlord when her child fell out of a tree on the landlord's property or some other such silly nonsense.
Isn't it strange, dogs on a lease offend blacks because of the 60's..Apparently it is ok and is a part of culture to have dog fights. Go Vick
Gildee, she is not that old. She is in my age range, and I never, ever learned about this in school. Teaching black history to predominately white students is a relatively new concept, trust me. At 43 she was just BORN in 1966!
Ambulance chasing scumbags! They sue, knowing that most businesses will settle before a trial ever happens. It is cheaper than actually winning the suit, which they would, if the case made it that far.
If you want the kids to not congregate in a certain area, you can install those devices that emit a frequency that only kids can hear, and it drives them crazy. They can't stand it. Adults can't hear it. I'm not sure how it works on the so-called adults who act like children while raising them.
If you can't afford these devices, just put speakers in the window and play some country music. Preferably some David Alan Coe, Merle Haggard, or Hank Williams (Sr. or Jr.). It is like krptonite to young urbanites.
"Given the racial history of our country, her actions were definitely inappropriate..."
I don't want to hear the words "race" and "inappropriate" until some resolution is brought about in the 4th of July case in Firestone Park. Especially not in the form of some payday lawsuit like this one. You'd better hope I'm not on the jury, lady.
If you can't act like civilized human being, then get the hell out of the suburbs and away from me and my kids.
The comments that are made on this site are ingorant and hurtful. There are probably more details to this story that are not being mentioned. Cuyahoga Falls haaas a history of being intolerant of those who are not caucasion. Blacks and whites live in subsidized housing, receive food stamps and are on welfare. It is ridiculous to assume that the parents of these children are "poor parents". It sounds like these children were doing things that ALL children do. I am an African American female. It is very sad to think that the people on this site making ignorant comments are probably my neighbors or the parents of children who go to school with my children. This world has become a scary place. Tonight I will pray that everyone finds peace and self-acceptance. God will bless you all.
I have a very good friend who is black, he is a successful business man. I asked him why is it always about race with black people? His answer: Ignorance.
Use Common Sense-You hit the nail on the head !
Complex manager should buy a loudspeaker system and play Aretha Franklin singing R-E-S-P-E-C-T every half hour loud enough to disturb the parents naps and Soaps while the kids are on the loose,bored with nothing to do.
Hey maybe they could buy a summer pass to the swimming pool,or load them up and take them to Portage Lakes State Park to swim or go fishing to burn off some steam !
Dumb and Dumber-- Race card,Bad manager,& Bad Kids.
This situation and all of the comments are a true reflections of bad leadership. The right thing to do; For the manager resend a notification to all the tenants about the rules. Not using the dog for protection. Asking all of the parents to help enforce the rules instead of the finding a way to say it is a Blacks,poor, or poverty issues. When rent is being paid for housing.
Resend a notification about the rules because...the tenants don't already know them? And if the manager needs protection, and you don't like the dog, what should she pack instead?
To all my bruthers from another mothers...
Oldest situation known to man, unsupervised youngsters congregating with mob mentality.
These is not little Johny and Susie burning off a little energy climbing trees but a large group of hard eyed and out of control youngsters who know that mommy will come out swinging regardless what they are accused of doing.
Instead of a good arse-kick they will be made into pooor victims with possibility of winning the ghetto lottery.
Sixties racial stereotypes aside,a dog is a common deterent to crime and this one was non-agressive.
The manager should just hand out eviction notices to the offending youngsters to take home,the waiting list for needy folks to move to the Falls is miles long.
ANZ, thanks, I own my home and understand that if a stranger falls on my property they can sue, that is also what insurance is for. But having been a kid who climbed LOTS of trees growing up I never did any serious damage falling out of any of them
To those who explained the age of the trees is part of the factor, thanks. I don't live in that area and wouldn't think of climbing what sounds like are essentially saplings (sp?) even when I was younger.
It is sad to see where the Falls has gone, in the past few years. I know quite a few good families that have moved out to more rural areas, due to the "diversity" problems, and to get their kids into demographically better schools. A few of them have taken massive losses on their homes just so they could get out. The Riverfront Mall used to be a nice place to go on a weekend. Now, it looks like a refugee camp. More cities need to start fighting HUD, Section 8, and "slumlords".
Ikp1981,
Quit acting all hurt and surprised that just maybe there are people living around you and going to school with your kids, that aren't quite as eager about being around you, as you might hope. It can get much worse. There are people like me that have the resources to move where I want, just to make sure our kids don't have a disruptive learning experience from the unruly, poorly disciplined hoodrats.
It's comments like " the zoo wouldn't take them...", and "keep the monkees out of the trees..." (which is spelled "monkeys" by the way), that should let you know that the race issue is still relevant. Racial comments made by racist people who don't understand why people still feel discriminated against....Can't you see why???
This city only reports crimes and nuisances from parcels they want to eminent domain or tear down so a crony can buy it. You'll NEVER see a police report regarding the Rockin' complex. The only complaint ever filed about the riverfront was when David Allen Coe cussed too much. There is a fight there almost every weekend.
children climbing a tree?? no way, how awful.
COME ON PEOPLE!
Let the children climb the trees, at least they are not on the streets.
I do not agree, however, with the race card being thrown on the table.
If all unruly children were treated the same then theres no need to make it about race just because the landlord is white.
Maybe the landlord should throw a race card too, that the tenant is suing her because she is white.
I believe a new manager was picked who would be tougher. There have been many incidents in surrounding neighborhoods. A lot of these neighboring folks were happy about a manager who would make it a priority to enforce the rules.
Tatum said she stepped outside and was watching...Why then didnt she do something right at that moment? We all know why,cuz its bs..something to get her name in the paper and hoping to get some cash out it.What a crock.Id kick her out for filing the complaint.Oh wait.that would bring Al the a** Sharpton out,but..would he even step foot in Cuyahoga (caucausion)Falls? LOLOLOLOL
I think it was OK for her to remind the kids of the rules that the parents obviously did not. How could she be standing in the doorway watching her daughter climb the tree and not tell her to get off? Like many of the other post that know the area those trees are new and cannot hold any child of any age!! The manager should send a letter to the parent and use the 3 strikes rule, 3rd letter they go!!
@lie detector.Good Point!
The race card is BS!!!!!!!
Why doesn't the white lady file a suit against the black lady for filing a suit based on her race? Wonder how that would work out???
Cuz you wouldnt be able to find a decent lawyer to take the case.theyd all be too scared of it.cuz ya know if your quiet about "it","it" will go away.
Plus,why didnt the unFair housing people go there first and try to get the real story before filing suit.This whole thing stinks.
BS suit that is a waste of money.
Some people are just sue happy...Your kids are unruly teach them right and to respect!
Ive been through another low in come houseing...
Color has nothing to do with it. IT unruly kids. get a job and move if you dont like the manager.
I think Obama needs to go on national TV and declare that this lady acted stupidly.
There is a simple solution to this...
1) Install cameras in "restricted" areas.
2) When the tenenants(or their kids) break the rules, cite them(preferably with "rental-comunity service)
list of chores would be;
repairing damages, cleaning up trash, planting flowers, trees, etc.
sooner or later, the parents will tire of this and eigther rein in their wild kids, or move out.
Now if we could just get that passed.Imagine the hell you'd go thru trying to do it!
She needs to look for another job, before she has a riot on her hands. How she handle this problem was overkill, and she will be pick on and teased. By the way, this manager needs to make sure the kids actually live there, and not assume they do.
Soon people will inexplicably accuse these "wonderful young children" of vandalism, theft, gang activity, assult ect.
That means.....time for another lawsuit.
(when the get released from jail)
@maryann,
I agree with you on her needing to find another job.Considering the I.Q.over there.,it cant be to easy for her going to work everyday.
I didn't read the mother denying that her kid was breaking the rules that she agreed to when she signed a lease.
Somebody said that they wouldn't try climbing a sapling as a kid. Maybe these kids don't care, it isn't there stuff. Their parents don't tell them the rules, or enforce the rules.
I agree that it is a disgrace to real civil rights violations that these kind of things happen. The lady took a dog with her for protection when she went around the complex to check out the problems. She didn't have the dog attack or intimidate anybody.
But the mother, typical of many in society today (of all races, social status etc) that never think their kid would do something wrong. If one my adult neighbors told our parents something about us, the adult was believed, and we were punished. Of course us kids wouldn't admit to the wrong doing, but I parents could tell we were not being honest.
Oh judy c'mon. The dads were all at work. Those kids were in TROUBLE when dad got home!!!
Thanks for the laugh Canton Bachelorette!! I surely needed it today!!!
Wow, the comments made regarding this story are very ignorant. It is amazing that people who live in Newton Falls and Canton need to make comments about events that are happening in Cuyahoga Falls. You all must be very bored. You should consider getting a job instead of sitting on your bottoms collecting "disability". If SSA knew you that you were using your SSI to purchase fancy computers they would discontinue your check. If you lost your SSI, food stamps and section 8, where would you be?
First Prange Drive, now this...Fallsites get out while you can before the whole city gets inhabited by section 8! I bolted out of the Falls last year and glad I did!
lkp1981, yes there are many racist comments on this thread. However, the mother herself brought up the 'race card'. If mom 1st stopped her child from damaging sapling trees (simple respect) we wouldn't have this story. Yet, mom sits back until she sees the manager. And THEN, she takes notice of her child's behavior. Sure the manager had a dog. She maybe was afraid from a bad experience of past confrontations at this complex. Or she confronted the kids before, and they just laughed at her and the parents did nothing. What would the outcome have been if the manager was black? male? white male?
Oh, and the Beacon said Meyers, the manager is white. But what about Nicole Tatum? She like to throw out the race card, why didn't the Beacon mention her race too? hmmmmm ............................
Gee, Barberton has LOTS of playgrounds for our kids! Nobody said if some of the kids were just excited to see any old dog. I'll bet pets are NOT allowed on the property. In that case, is ANY animal allowed on the premises, whether owned by a manager OR tenant? Does it matter? Sooo, everything sucks everywhere. And it's getting worse. Ya'll need to lighten up! This story is slanted in too too many ways.
I take it some of you would start a-shooting if your daughter was dating a black man.
Sad that a person was worried enough to take their dog to work for protection...
Gonna be a very crazy world in 100 years from now, you have folks who can't feed themselves having kids and those kids having kids.......makes no sense...
if ms.nikki anything like her friends big nose cynthia or raggedy montoya she infact lying
what about parks/community centers? parents today think their children are perfect-it's sad cause the parents don't wanna be botherd so they locked the kids out so "mama" can place house wit somebody else'e man & the flip side to that is the managers think their next to god cause of their title.the bottom line is that tentants/managers have to come to a agreement that has to be enforced.if lil man destoyin property a warning then next OUT if miss hannah runnin wild warnin next OUT start on your children early.THE SOONER THE BETTER.single the rotten kids out i bet the mama no better
rite to the point.....get hooked on phonix, not ebonics. Seriously, what did you just say?
Boy i wish i could bring my dog to work when things get out of hand! Caucasian Falls!!! Are you serious??? The same Mayberry community that used to spit at me and my fellow football teammates from 84-88...and i went to an all white school. Called my friends n-lovers. From some of these post, i see the love or should i say hate has spreaded in to other communities. If i said, and you wonder why we always beat you people up. Would i be wrong? Come on! kids playing climbing trees, tearing up flower beds....SO WHAT! Take that dog over to the Meth lab, better yet sign up all these suburb utopias cuase as i see it, you people got bigger fish to fry instead of worrying about my people and the race card...Sarah, and Meagan might just be walking down Johnston st.....longer daddy's little girl.
hoodthug... Great post.. DUH!
It's 1:30am don't you have to go to work in the morning?
The number one problem in this country is parents defending their out of control children! These kids learn to have no respect for authority, and it leads to the kids turning into criminals by age 14. They need a good @$$ whipping when they act unruly. When I was growing up, if you acted up in school, you got the paddle from the principal. Now that's child abuse...PLEASE! And we wonder why we have so many problems with today's youth...
@UseCommonSense
No actually i dont! its 4:04am and your posting, what, meth keeping you up all night?
I just wish to take the oppurtunity to address some of the ignorant statements posted. I too at one time lived in govt. housing in Tallmadge and let me tell you from the time I began living there I worked and sat around and watched many whites and blacks do nothing but collect the money and stamps. There was definitly racism present there, but however I was taught to respect others, and all things so therefore I taught my children the same and still continue to this day. However there are alot of things that go in the suburbs that don't get mentioned and I can tell you alot, so lets not think that just black people are trouble because believe you me your people can bring on alot as well. Instead of her sitting back and watching the situation, yes she should have come outside and spoke with the manager first and talked with her child right then and there about what is expected of her etc. All I'm saying is please don't group all apples in one basket because of a few bads one because both of my boys have graduated from high school and on there way to college, and my daughter is doing quite well is school also...and one more thing I did this all without there father!!!
This area of Ohio has a lot of sad, sick people. Beating each other up on the forum, and using racial slurs against children, truly what makes you feel happy? like your rage fuels your joy-sooo sad.
That makes me mad at many of you for your hate filled ignorance, but then I thank goodness none of you are CEOs of anything. Masters of their lives just don't spend the energy being so racist and angry all of the time.
I really pray the hate doesn't burden your hearts and consume your limited intellect because life is shorter than you think.
hoodthug...
"No actually i dont! its 4:04am and your posting, what, meth keeping you up all night?"
No, I go to bed about 9:00pm and wake about 3:30am for work.
Just one more leech on civil society going for MORE unearned money. Frankly, they should ALL be kicked to the street. Lazy, uneducated ticks,, all of them
BTW,, i want some of these parasites to come over and cut my lawn,, since i support them on my taxs
Oh but they are Wildflower, these are the same people that you work with, and pass everyday on our busy streets...Face to face they're polite and smile at you and your family. Its just the electronic age. No face, just words. Thats when the can express what they truly feel. Its a shame! I served this country in the military, shedded blood and took blood for liberty and freedom. And this is what i had to come home to? Bringing a dog to work? Not only was that a tool against the civil rights movement, but the Nazis used them against the jews. Our on military uses dogs against terriorist and taliban suspects too. If things were so out of control...what was she going to do? Have the dog attack the kids? To my understanding the parents all were in the apartments(from what some of these post stated). We probably all could get along if we just communicated. All she had to do was approach the kid's parents in question, and relay the facts to them...but who am i kidding, you people have always been scared of us....im just saying!!
snake...
" i want some of these parasites to come over and cut my lawn"
You've got something there, we should discourage long term welfare by getting those folks to do some work or they don't get da money. Pick up road kill, mow abandoned home's lawns, pull weeds from my garden, pick the cotton... OOOPPPSSS we better be careful don't want to owe anyone reparations.
It sad that most of you want to blame Obama for everthing The Minority dont rule only the white Man does and these good wanna -be unsopervised commentors:
Bystandeder states- they have no manner there Welfare Kids unsupervised with you reguarde for anything/it like the pot calling a kettle white
Stleo-ghetto plex it take one to know one you must be living on fix income to know about what going on simple is as simple does think about it racist
Judy stop worring About other and worry do you know who your daddy suppose to be Uncle or grandfather.
oringal realist/Fedup 2/Pelunia/proud conservative
most of you have commonsense confuse to the fact that because your white your right you all prove that you all keep racist alive and well.
Bet none of you will open you sorry mouth on CP or show yourself most of you have no culture but plenty of comment spitting posion everywhere hateful I pray that Our Father in Heaven dont jugde you like you judges others living in glass house and I hope I'm around when someome throw the stone at you I hope you sleep well
How dare children want to climb trees!!! What are they thinking??!! This woman needs help!
@ what?
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Are these tree able to be climbed, or are they young trees being damaged by vandals?
If I child feel from said trees, who would get sued?
Where are the parents of these children?
Proud Conservative.Is living in a different world.Clinton changed A F D C to T A N F AND JOBS.If all you have wrong with you is an stank A@#.You are able bodied with children.You will get job training and go to work.3 years max on money.You cannot live off food stamps fool.I live in ward 8.Mixed neighbourhood.White children fighting and selling drugs.Their mother's boyfriend 3-4 weeks ago undercover SHERIFF'S Deputies comes up and than uniformed Deputies with k-9 unit searching his truck and house.Took him to jail for drugs.Other white children dug all the dirt from around the fire hydrant to the water line.We called the police.Parents got in trouble.Kids will be kids,tree climbing is fun at that age.The Parents are the problem.Kim Meyers should have never had a dog there.If she could not talk to the parents,SHE SHOULD HAVE LEFT IT IN THE HANDS OF THE POLICE.But Falls police have no record of the incident.HUMM
Most of you wouldn't let a black person mow your lawn anyway. I've had customers refuse to park their car at my place of employment because they saw a black man outside.
Rikashmoney, working in the landscape / maintenance field, I can't GET a black person to mow lawns.
Too slow, too lazy, beat equipment to death, don't show for work except when pay is handed out.
I'm not saying they're all like that, but this is what I run into on a daily basis.
Hoodthug, I can almost remember '84-88. Man, those were the racist days in the Falls. Boy..... way back then.....let me think for a minute. I recall "Rockin' on the river" was called "Swinging from the Tree".
Your post was a crock, son. Spit on? Let me guess, had your own dining section and drinking fountain, too? Remember, Hoodthug, those were democrat / liberal tools of the trade. Yes, your president is on the side of Bull Conner, Segregation, the clan, busing, etc. Seriously, what do you think might change?
In my West Akron development, I walk my K9 everywhere I go, especially at night. I'm not looking for confrontation. It is more companionship and protection. yes, the scary hoodies do give a wide berth and look for easier targets, as we have more than our share of problems with the Section 8 / assisted living just up the street.
And 7thsign, more like 7thgrade. Were we supposed to understand you?
Man there are some haters in this area. It's almost like being in a literate part of Texas...almost.
I heard about this and what happened to the part of the story bout someone trying to break into some ladies partment? what hapened to that part. was she white, did they ketch the guy? anyone know?
and did yall know it was round 9pm not at day time.
This manager should be given a pass. The dog attacked no one. How could she know if these kids were like the gang in Firestone Park or not? She does have a right to protect herself.
One possible solution in time:
All persons receiving public assistance because they dropped an anchor baby or dropped a baby they knew they could not afford or generations raised on welfare, should be sterilized after the first child. If they will not go through the procedure then no public assistance. This will reduce the problems associated with having a large, poor population via attrition.
That said there is a time when the program will need to be suspended.
Thunder31: STATES:Those were democrat / liberal tools of the trade. Yes, your president is on the side of Bull Conner, Segregation, the clan, busing, etc. Seriously, what do you think might change?You need to learn history better.They were democratic /conservatives turned Republican.People like Strom Thurmond who was a dixiecrat (a member of a faction of southern Democrats stressing states' rights and opposed to the civil-rights programs of the Democratic party).Send all the blacks back to Africa Movement.So President Obama could not be on the side of Bull Conner, Segregation, the klan,Strom Thurmond (R)FORMER dixiecrat was all for Segregation.But had an black girlfriend on the side.And had an black child and kept it a secret until after his death.He was 100.The child was 59.
Thunder31. Learn your history better.
cj1404 stated.This manager should be given a pass.
Falls police have no record of the incident.She never called the cops.
All persons receiving public assistance because they dropped an anchor baby or dropped a baby they knew they could not afford or generations raised on welfare, should be sterilized after the first child.
Again Clinton changed A F D C to T A N F AND JOBS.If all you have wrong with you is an stank A@#.You are able bodied with children.You will get job training and go to work.3 years max on money. No more generations raised on welfare.You do know 2/3 of all welfare people are white.
S6, each one of the items mentioned were brought on by democrats. George ewallace & Bull Connor were democrats. Obama is on the side of the same party. Not talking views here, but facts.
If you wanna nitpick or go through the woodpile looking for fun facts, have at it. What they were before or after the deals were done does not matter.
Thunder31
David Ernest Duke is an American white nationalist, former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan former Republican Louisiana State Representative, candidate in presidential primaries and presidential elections So this makes Bush, You and all Republicans klan right?
Thunder31
David Ernest Duke is an American white nationalist, former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, former Republican Louisiana State Representative, candidate in presidential primaries and presidential elections,So this makes Bush,You and all Republicans klan right?
thunder31 your still clueless- i don't know if your retarted or old and lonely
My interpretation of this news report: New manager trying to enforce pre-existing rules which previous manager did not enforce. Tenants have established behaviors and are resistant to change and rules. Race is not the issue - proper behavior is the issue. I found the following review of Pleasant Meadows at: http://www.apartmentreviews.net/ratings/ohio/cuyahoga-falls/pleasant-meadows-village-r75296.htm . I found it very enlightening. Name: Anonymous. Review Date: 6/3/2009. Rented: From 2005 To 2009. i lived in these apartments from 05 until 09. there is nothing "pleasant" about living there period. the place is turning into a ghetto if you will. you never have the same neighbors. they can't keep tenants there for nothing. the ONLY reason i stayed there was because of the size and school district. during those years there was at least three different managers, five or more maintenance guys (who only worked like a couple hours a day) doing what nobody actually knows. i know of plenty of people including myself that when things need fixed they DO NOT get done. IF it does it takes forever. i know someone who lives there currently and there bathtub does not stop running and and there ceiling leaks, it ruined their furniture and the management wont do anything. peoples apartments get broken into. if you leave anything outside it WILL get stolen. the little kids ages as low as 4 say worse words than what i say as an adult. little kids fight all the time out there. there is NO parent supervision outside. so kids think anything goes. there is plenty of grass for the kids to play in but they think they need to play in the parking lot throwing balls riding bikes...while at the same time everything is hitting peoples cars. pleasant meadow does not care about anyone. and you can never get a hold of anyone!!! GRRRR i could go on forever but i got out of there for a reason....to forget about that place forever. so good luck to anyone who lives there or is moving there.
Additional comments: The property manager needs to send all tenants a copy of their signed leases, the housing complex rules and the consequences of not respecting and abiding by those rules, the parent or parents need to supervise their children, the parent or parents need to be good role models for their child or children, and the Cuyahoga Falls Mayor and City Council need to address the teen crime issues in the city, e.g. the Rockin' on the River and Pleasant Meadows incidents. Ignoring the issue will only increase its likelihood, not lessen its occurrence. I have been a resident for several years and have seen many negative changes in Cuyahoga Falls; increased teen crime is only one of the issues.
I keep hearing that this place is called Caucasian Falls, Is there something you need to tell me?
Is there racial stuff going on?
Thunder 31 please write to me I am doing a research paper on racism, but I really do not see why C Falls is/was called Caucasian Falls. That's a little weird
