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By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal staff writer
POSTED: 09:46 p.m. EST, Nov 25, 2009
BEREA: Brady Quinn is coming off his best game in the NFL, but the man he considers most instrumental in his development might be fired in a matter of days.
So the Browns' starting quarterback stood up for embattled Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis Wednesday, even though Saturday's season finale at Stanford might be Weis' last game with Notre Dame. The Irish are 6-5, and Weis is 35-26 in five seasons.
''Personally, I think it would be a horrible decision if they did make that change,'' Quinn said. ''I think there's a lot of circumstances that play into a season like this. Hopefully he'll have another opportunity with the guys.''
When Weis and Quinn were together in 2005-06, Notre Dame went 19-6 and played in the Fiesta and Sugar Bowls. Since then, Weis is 16-20, including losses to Navy in two of the past three years.
Quinn isn't sure why Notre Dame can't get over the top, but believes much of the responsibility falls on the players.
Players need to step up
''I know that as a player there, one of the things we prided ourselves on was winning games and not worrying about stats and individual accolades,'' Quinn said. ''But pulling through tight games, and winning the games and going in there fighting every week . . . I think if you have enough talent on that team, there's guys on that team that have got to start finding ways to win.''
Quinn wouldn't use the school's tough academic standards as an excuse.
''You can say that, but it plays to their advantage, too, that smart players are able to do a lot more from a schematic standpoint and prepare for teams in better fashion than other teams,'' he said.
Weis and Quinn talk frequently, and Quinn would love to see the former New England Patriots offensive coordinator return to the NFL.
''It'd be nice. I'd like to play under him again if I had the opportunity,'' Quinn said.
The drama in South Bend won't deter Quinn from his mission this weekend — winning his first division game, as the Browns (1-9) visit the AFC North-leading Cincinnati Bengals (7-3).
It might be a boost to Quinn's confidence that he posted his best quarterback rating (133.1) in eight NFL starts in Sunday's 38-37 loss to the Lions in Detroit. Operating out of the no-huddle for the second consecutive game and relying heavily on the pump fake, he completed 21-of-33 passes for 304 yards and four touchdowns, more scoring tosses than he'd totaled in his previous seven starts (three).
''We executed some of the deep balls well,'' Quinn said. ''Some of the deeper passes that were out there, I missed a couple. But overall, just kind of get on the same page, whether it's Mohamed [Massaquoi] or other guys. I just work on things that when things break down, they're going to come make a play.''
The 22nd overall pick in the 2007 draft, Quinn improved his rating to 70.4 this season (from 51.0 the previous week) and 68.5 for his career. But he's 1-7 as a starter.
''I think Brady Quinn and what he'll be known as is yet to be determined,'' Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said on a conference call Wednesday. ''People, just because of his draft rank and such, are quick to judge. They've got to let Brady Quinn play and develop as an NFL player. I think all that will happen over time. Each coach manages his team and his quarterbacks the way he sees fit.''
But Quinn felt no sense of relief after the Browns jumped out to a 24-3 first-quarter lead against another 1-8 team, which was ranked last in the league in points allowed.
''No, I was more disappointed that we didn't come out with a win,'' Quinn said. ''We didn't put enough points on the board.''
Despite the outcome, the output was a needed awakening for the Browns, who had just five offensive touchdowns in the 15 previous games. It was the most points scored by the Browns since Sept. 16, 2007, when they survived a 51-45 shootout with the Bengals. It was the most points by the Browns under Quinn since Nov. 6, 2008, a 34-30 loss to the Denver Broncos.
The Browns rolled up a season-high 439 total yards against the Lions, the most since producing 454 in an upset of the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Oct. 13, 2008. To some, the performance was more reminiscent of a 10-6 season in 2007, when quarterback Derek Anderson was joined by five teammates in the Pro Bowl.
''It felt great,'' left guard Eric Steinbach said Sunday. ''It reminded us of '07 where you're throwing down the field, they're catching it, we're protecting, we got the running game going. If we can ride that out the next six weeks, it'd be nice.''
Coach still cautious
Browns coach Eric Mangini was hesitant to say the offense has turned the corner.
''What I was really happy with is the plays that were there to be made, we made them,'' Mangini said. ''We worked on the no-huddle and we have gotten better with that. Brady and [center] Alex Mack and the whole group did a nice job identifying the different looks and getting the protection where it needs to get to. To see that, I was encouraged. I think they were all encouraged.
''You don't want to be like a one-hit wonder. You have to go out and do it the next week.''
Marla Ridenour can be reached at mridenour@thebeaconjournal.com. Read her Browns blog at http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/browns/. Follow the Browns on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/ABJ_Browns.
BEREA: Brady Quinn is coming off his best game in the NFL, but the man he considers most instrumental in his development might be fired in a matter of days.
So the Browns' starting quarterback stood up for embattled Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis Wednesday, even though Saturday's season finale at Stanford might be Weis' last game with Notre Dame. The Irish are 6-5, and Weis is 35-26 in five seasons.
''Personally, I think it would be a horrible decision if they did make that change,'' Quinn said. ''I think there's a lot of circumstances that play into a season like this. Hopefully he'll have another opportunity with the guys.''
When Weis and Quinn were together in 2005-06, Notre Dame went 19-6 and played in the Fiesta and Sugar Bowls. Since then, Weis is 16-20, including losses to Navy in two of the past three years.
Quinn isn't sure why Notre Dame can't get over the top, but believes much of the responsibility falls on the players.
Players need to step up
''I know that as a player there, one of the things we prided ourselves on was winning games and not worrying about stats and individual accolades,'' Quinn said. ''But pulling through tight games, and winning the games and going in there fighting every week . . . I think if you have enough talent on that team, there's guys on that team that have got to start finding ways to win.''
Quinn wouldn't use the school's tough academic standards as an excuse.
''You can say that, but it plays to their advantage, too, that smart players are able to do a lot more from a schematic standpoint and prepare for teams in better fashion than other teams,'' he said.
Weis and Quinn talk frequently, and Quinn would love to see the former New England Patriots offensive coordinator return to the NFL.
''It'd be nice. I'd like to play under him again if I had the opportunity,'' Quinn said.
The drama in South Bend won't deter Quinn from his mission this weekend — winning his first division game, as the Browns (1-9) visit the AFC North-leading Cincinnati Bengals (7-3).
It might be a boost to Quinn's confidence that he posted his best quarterback rating (133.1) in eight NFL starts in Sunday's 38-37 loss to the Lions in Detroit. Operating out of the no-huddle for the second consecutive game and relying heavily on the pump fake, he completed 21-of-33 passes for 304 yards and four touchdowns, more scoring tosses than he'd totaled in his previous seven starts (three).
''We executed some of the deep balls well,'' Quinn said. ''Some of the deeper passes that were out there, I missed a couple. But overall, just kind of get on the same page, whether it's Mohamed [Massaquoi] or other guys. I just work on things that when things break down, they're going to come make a play.''
The 22nd overall pick in the 2007 draft, Quinn improved his rating to 70.4 this season (from 51.0 the previous week) and 68.5 for his career. But he's 1-7 as a starter.
''I think Brady Quinn and what he'll be known as is yet to be determined,'' Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said on a conference call Wednesday. ''People, just because of his draft rank and such, are quick to judge. They've got to let Brady Quinn play and develop as an NFL player. I think all that will happen over time. Each coach manages his team and his quarterbacks the way he sees fit.''
But Quinn felt no sense of relief after the Browns jumped out to a 24-3 first-quarter lead against another 1-8 team, which was ranked last in the league in points allowed.
''No, I was more disappointed that we didn't come out with a win,'' Quinn said. ''We didn't put enough points on the board.''
Despite the outcome, the output was a needed awakening for the Browns, who had just five offensive touchdowns in the 15 previous games. It was the most points scored by the Browns since Sept. 16, 2007, when they survived a 51-45 shootout with the Bengals. It was the most points by the Browns under Quinn since Nov. 6, 2008, a 34-30 loss to the Denver Broncos.
The Browns rolled up a season-high 439 total yards against the Lions, the most since producing 454 in an upset of the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Oct. 13, 2008. To some, the performance was more reminiscent of a 10-6 season in 2007, when quarterback Derek Anderson was joined by five teammates in the Pro Bowl.
''It felt great,'' left guard Eric Steinbach said Sunday. ''It reminded us of '07 where you're throwing down the field, they're catching it, we're protecting, we got the running game going. If we can ride that out the next six weeks, it'd be nice.''
Coach still cautious
Browns coach Eric Mangini was hesitant to say the offense has turned the corner.
''What I was really happy with is the plays that were there to be made, we made them,'' Mangini said. ''We worked on the no-huddle and we have gotten better with that. Brady and [center] Alex Mack and the whole group did a nice job identifying the different looks and getting the protection where it needs to get to. To see that, I was encouraged. I think they were all encouraged.
''You don't want to be like a one-hit wonder. You have to go out and do it the next week.''
Marla Ridenour can be reached at mridenour@thebeaconjournal.com. Read her Browns blog at http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/browns/. Follow the Browns on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/ABJ_Browns.
Now, there is a vote of confidence. . .
LOL. . .
Double-talk . . . . Quinn is full of it . . . . dropped passes . . ..things break down . . . . deeper passes, I missed a few . . . . .. get on the same page . . . . . a schematic standpoint . . . what the hell is he talking about?
Quinn obviously loves playing for losers and mediocre programs. He will never be a winner in the NFL, if he doesn't settle for anything but winning.
I hope he wakes up and realizes that it was only the Lions he played last week. Oh and by the way, you DID score enough points to win. You would have won if the defense could defense.
When he was at Notre Dame he didn't worry about stats or individual acculades but that sure went out the window when he was negotiating with the Clowns. It is plain to see that it was probably that fine coaching that turned Brady into the all pro player that he is today. Does anyone really care what Brady thinks other than that car dealer in Cleveland? Brady maybe if they fire Charlie you can do the entire Northeastern Ohio region a favor and go coach Notre Dame. It is pretty obvious that you could do as well at that as you do at quarterback.
Brady and Wies need to leave football together.
BOTH are sad....
brady also backed McCain / Palin? Held out his rookie training camp? pretty boy with less than average nfl. talent? who cares?
