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Stakes high, lines drawn in Ohio casino battle

Lakes Entertainment's ballot issue called anti-family and faces opposition from coalitions and religion groups that fear increased gambling addictions, a monopoly and funding woes

By Dennis J. Willard
Beacon Journal Columbus Bureau

COLUMBUS: The saying, ''politics makes strange bedfellows,'' has never been truer than the effort by two divergent groups to fight a move to bring a $600 million casino to southwestern Ohio.

The No On Issue 6 group is funded almost solely by Penn National Gambling, which operates 19 casinos, seven racetracks, including Raceway Park in Toledo, and five off-track betting parlors.

Joining forces, at a healthy distance, is U.S. Sen. George Voinovich and David Zanotti in a coalition called Vote No Casinos that has widespread support in the religious community and does not want to see an expansion of gambling in Ohio.

Zanotti is president of the American Policy Roundtable, based in Strongsville, and has successfully fought past efforts to bring casinos to Ohio.

With fewer than three weeks to the election, both coalitions are stepping up efforts to defeat a ballot issue pushed by My Ohio Now that would give Lakes Entertainment of Minnesota the authority to build a casino in Clinton County.

Voinovich, who opposed previous efforts to establish casinos in Ohio, said he opposes the Lakes plan because it is anti-family, will lead to increased gambling addictions, and will give the company a monopoly.

Rick Lertzman, a My Ohio Now spokesman, is accusing both groups of distorting the issue and launching personal attacks in an attempt to defeat the casino issue.

Lertzman said Voinovich, as governor and now a U.S. senator, presided over the decline of jobs in Ohio, but is attacking the casino as an ''anti-family'' idea.

And Lertzman attacked Penn National for wanting to ensure Ohio dollars continue to flow out of the state to places like Penn's Argosy casino just across the border in Indiana.

''We're going to cut 40 to 50 percent of their income. The money will stay in Ohio,'' Lertzman said. ''Sen. Voinovich says this is bad for families. He hasn't offered any concrete solutions or answers for lost jobs and revenues. Meanwhile, 38 states have casinos or some form of gambling, including the states surrounding Ohio.''

Opposed to monopoly

Bob Tenenbaum, a No on Issue 6 spokesman, said his group differs from Voinovich and Zanotti in that it is not against gambling, but does oppose giving Lakes a monopoly through a constitutional amendment.

''If you had gone and looked for the worst possible way to do it, this is what you would have found,'' Tenenbaum said.

He said the amendment is poorly written and filled with loopholes and it is conceivable that all funds promised from the casino would never materialize.

''It sets up a state gaming commission and then specifically takes away most powers given to gaming commissions in other states, like setting hours, the games that can be offered and the house limits on betting,'' Tenenbaum said.

A major sticking point for the two sides is the wording that would be placed in the Ohio Constitution if voters pass the ballot issue.

Tenenbaum, Voinovich and Zanotti maintain that loopholes in the amendment could reduce the 30 percent of gross gambling receipts that Lakes would have to pay to 25 percent or even lower if another casino is established in Ohio.

The amendment language would reduce the amount paid by Lakes to 25 percent or the percentage paid by another casino operator, whichever is less.

Tenenbaum, Voinovich and Zanotti maintain it is possible that Lakes would pay nothing if an Indian casino were built in Ohio, because those casinos do not pay taxes.

Lertzman dismissed the notion that an Indian casino would ever come to Ohio. He also said a second casino in the state would need voter approval, and it is inconceivable that the legislature would allow another gambling establishment to pay less than 25 percent.

While My Ohio Now is attacking Penn National for backing the opposition, the amendment's critics are raising questions about Lakes' owner, Lyle Berman, and the company's operations, including closing a casino in Detroit.

No time limits for Lakes

Zanotti said the amendment does not place time limits on when Lakes would have to invest $600 million or create the 5,000 jobs that are promised.

Pastor Kelly D. McInerney, who leads the Bible Baptist Church in Clinton County, said the casino backers promised local residents they would not push to build the casino there without local support.

McInerney said there is a large and growing number of people who want to keep Wilmington (the county seat) still deserving of Time magazine's 1997 article noting that it is one of the best places in the United States in which to live.

''Early on, we thought we could nip this in the bud,'' McInerney said. ''We'll take the hotel, the shops and the golf course, but we do not want the casino.''

Local backing for casino

Lertzman said there is local support for the casino, noting two of three county commissioners, two school superintendents, the sheriff and Wilmington's mayor back the issue.

Of the 30 percent cut in gross revenue, Clinton County would receive 10 percent, the state would get a small percentage and the remaining 87 counties would receive a share based on population.

''We have the support of the community. This reverend is morally opposed to it and that is not surprising,'' Lertzman said.

In the past, Clinton County voters have not supported casino issues.

In 2006, when the ''Learn and Earn,'' casino plan that proposed to help college students pay for tuition failed by a 57-to-43 vote statewide, the idea failed in Clinton County by an almost identical margin, with 7,362 no votes compared to 5,458 that supported casinos.

Lertzman said Lakes will build the entertainment complex even if the issue fails in Clinton County, but passes in the rest of the state.

And while Penn National and the Vote No Casinos groups are working against Lakes, Zanotti said they will be on opposite sides of the gambling issue once the polls close in November.

''If you think you're coming back next year or the year after that, we'll be waiting,'' Zanotti said.

 


Dennis J. Willard can be reached at 614-224-1613 or dwillard@thebeaconjournal.com.

 

COLUMBUS: The saying, ''politics makes strange bedfellows,'' has never been truer than the effort by two divergent groups to fight a move to bring a $600 million casino to southwestern Ohio.

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BillyBob
WADSWORTH, OH

Posted 04:56 AM, 10/19/2008

Out with the old and in with the new-Voinovich equals JOB LOSSES.Economically,can Ohio afford NOT to allow structured gambling? Research the proposals first,then GO-VOTE !


You gotta be kidding me
Akron, Oh

Posted 06:56 AM, 10/19/2008

But its OK to have lines of people (most who can't afford it)at the local gas station or conveniant mart spending away there dollars on lottery and now Keno. Is the government afraid they aren't going to be able to line their pockets with casino money or what.


You gotta be kidding me
Akron, Oh

Posted 06:58 AM, 10/19/2008

And I only continue to see funding taken away from schools since the lottery came to town. Where is all that money going. More golf trips perhaps for the old "no child left behind" politicians.


OldManGrump
Tallmadge, OH

Posted 08:04 AM, 10/19/2008

Vote NO on this gambling scheme. It's bad for Ohio and deserves to be defeated. It's time for the Governor & Lottery to look at a real practical way for Ohio to have Casinos in all areas of the state to fund our schools, and this ain't it.


word
akron, oh

Posted 08:35 AM, 10/19/2008

Just vote the opposite of whatever the liberal ABJ supports.


May Fong
akron, oh

Posted 09:00 AM, 10/19/2008

Funny How Right after the vote NO commercials on casinos.

The State sponsored scratch off and lotto gambling commercial comes on.

Its for the kids. LMAO sure it is. Odds are you will lose. And the state will get more of your money to waste....

But at least it goes directly to the state to spend.

When it goes through any one else they don't like it.

Hypocrites...


don

Posted 09:17 AM, 10/19/2008

someone has to build the casino, someone has to work there,someone has to pay the taxes,sounds like JOBS to me.the state has its lottery, the churches have their bingo, the schools are still being paid for by illegal funds(taxes). what have we got to lose? WE HAVE ALOT TO GAIN IF ITS HANDLED RIGHT! VOTE YES AND END THE EXISTING MONOPOLY BY THE GOVT.


saturn6

Posted 10:19 AM, 10/19/2008

Oh Cripes, here we go again.

When is Ohio going to get its head out of its behind? The "Religious Smell", I am holier than thou, must be getting pretty strong back there. Maybe these people better start using a higher quality toilet paper.

Good Ole Voin Boy and his troup of idiots (majority of ohio) have been doing this stuff for years now. I don't see any other states, residents growing horns on their heads, do you?

Maybe I just like to see more job creation, but it makes sense to be just a bit more inovative. Ohio by its own right has done nothing to promote anything that has anything to do with job creation anyway.

Believe me, Ohio will sorely deserve whatever it gets.


Karen

Posted 10:39 AM, 10/19/2008

I agree with Don. Ohio has the biggest job loss in the country with more going down weekly. We will gain 5,000 jobs plus 5,000 related jobs from the service and hotel industry, food etc. Those jobs will provide taxes back to the state coffers at the same time even if we got nothing to all the countys. People need to feed and provide for their families in Ohio not for the neighboring states by taking it out on them busses. If you dont go all it cost you is your yes vote and your county may benifit without lifting a finger. I also read about it at www.myohionow.com. check all their links.


spd3333
Anti-Politically Correct & Anti-GOP, OH

Posted 11:01 AM, 10/19/2008

Well, then we take our money OUT of Ohio. Wheeling.....Mountaineer....


Wile E Coyote
Stow, OH

Posted 11:30 AM, 10/19/2008

I laugh everytime i see the vote no commercial come on TV when it spouts." Don't let an out of state company control the casino !" Since we don't have any casino owners in OHIO who in the heck do they think knows how to run it ?It is plain to see OHIO just wants the lottery gravy train so it can have it's general slush fund to balance the books and hide the fact that they don't do their jobs very well.


DLR
Mogadore, OH

Posted 11:35 AM, 10/19/2008

I agree that the vote No commercials have been misleading, mainly because they make a point without explanation. This ABJ article clarified why they make the claim that a loophole could allow zero tax (re: Indian casino).

However, I agree that it is unlikely an Indian casino will ever happen. And if it does, then this amendment could be changed. I agree the amendment does not contain the best wording on this and some other points, but we need to start somewhere to get these JOBS.

It would be nice if the ABJ had reported on the tax rate that casinos in other states pay. 30% or 20% sounds good, but is it better or worse than other states?


sdcntycit

Posted 11:37 AM, 10/19/2008

What most do not understand is Lakes Entertainment and their two buddies in northern Ohio will be rich not the state. And if another company comes into the state with a proposal to build a casino somewhere else then this group will not have to pay their fees. They have a monopoly with this proposal. And with the credit crunch going on who is going to fund this project? If there is no funding there will be no jobs. Even if they get funding the construction jobs will be temporary. The promise of $34,000 a year is a joke. That's the average. Most will be much less. Lakes Entertainment is a bad company to be dealing with. Vote NO on 6. Tell the state to go back to the drawing board and work a better deal for Ohio.


OldManGrump
Tallmadge, OH

Posted 12:15 PM, 10/19/2008

Dennis - PA gets 55% off the top from their casinos. Don't you think Ohio should get the same?


saturn6

Posted 01:04 PM, 10/19/2008

What this all boils down to is how these laws are being written.

Regardless what law is voted on, average Joe is going to get screwed again, maybe deserves it anyway. Ohio did it with the; lottery, last year with the minumum wage law, last year with the no casino vote.

I'm surprised anyone would even want to move here, let alone live here. We're loosing people and industry left and right due to ohios' backward thinking, goodie-two-shoe, ignorant, bigoted religous right wing lawmakers and citizens.

I say, run for your life! Get out of Ohio while you can. Take your family, your car and your money and invest it into a state that supports its citizen with forward thinking policies. This state does not deserve your support.


Loren Eberly
Orrville, Oh

Posted 01:21 PM, 10/19/2008

Legislators scamming Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren, low income workers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion parasites willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life that rejected Casino gambling three times. To fund keno and lottery losers paying the more stock dividends (money) OPEC nations and Enron stockholders, Investors and stockholders in the Illegal Drug Business, Business owners stockholders, Financial Institutions investors and stockholders, Bulls on Wall Street, Hillarys, Wal-Mart stockholders, and foreign and domestic investors (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. That gets only product or service. To measure and maintain the strength and growth of this unaffordable economy and prove that only money that can only be used to identify agreed value of sellers and buyers in the marketplace has value?
For votes is defiant of demands of Natural Law (what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world), God, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce.
Demanding every corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service. Of every workers, consumers, and taxpayers living (including pension and health care). Enabling parents to love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide, for every child (job) they conceive and fund schools, infrastructure, national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages or independent business profit.


saturn6

Posted 01:45 PM, 10/19/2008

Whats your point Loren?

Looks like a lot of rambling about high-brow stuff people around here would have absolutely no idea what your talking about.



The Voice of Reason

Posted 02:10 PM, 10/19/2008

If you think this is going to create all these jobs think again. Everyone embellishes the job growth thing and the amount of investment. I am for casinos but when there are to many questions of loop holes and impropriety I gotta say NO. This issue opens the floodgates and once it's there it's a no turning back issue. Sure city officials are all for it because it helps them draw revenue without havingm to do the job they were elected to do. Many years back I remember when Atlantic City approved gambling with big promises of growth and prosperity. They were going to build and reform a dirty city into the next LasVegas. If you go there today the ocean fron is now all casinos and one street off the Boardwalk is the same ghetto it was if not worse. I was there before and after and I will tell you that it was safer before.

Watch what you wish for, you may just get it.


NORTONGAMING

Posted 04:14 PM, 10/19/2008

I find it hard to believe that this casino will create 5,000 jobs. Few casinos outside the largest Las Vegas, Atlantic City, or the two Connecticut Indian casinos,are responsible for this many employment opportunities. Perhaps Ohio should endorse gaming, but it should be introduced by the Legislature and consider the race tracks that are near insolvancy. They could benefit from slot machines and poker, and pay a higher tax rate than a casino. Both Indiana and Pennsylvania now have race tracks with slots, that are providing the State with meaningful License fees and high tax rates on their slot win.
I was there at the beginning of Atlantic City, and
I totally disagree with Jenny. You have to look at the entire Southern part of New Jersey to see the total impact of casino gaming, introduced by the Legislature with reinvestment taxes going to projects Statewide, and the casino win tax totally dedicated to seniors and the disabled; who have received over $5 billion since the first casino, Resort's International opened in 1978.


JUSTANOBSERVER
AKRON, OH

Posted 05:17 PM, 10/19/2008

AT IT AGAIN - HUH LOREN


Jabarten

Posted 05:33 PM, 10/19/2008

The wrong people, provide the bulk of those who gamble (aka., the poor). That is why it should be banned on all levels, including lottery and bingo...

If someone who DOES have the money to gamble, well then Las Vegas, the French Riviera, or Macao is waiting for you....

If you can't afford to go to those places, you can't afford to gamble.....just my views....


word
akron, oh

Posted 06:22 PM, 10/19/2008

Jason - what an idiotic statement. Most people that gamble have the money to do so as a form of entertainment. they also have the brains to NOT bet the house.


Jabarten

Posted 07:28 PM, 10/19/2008

I seem to be left with an otherwise different impressin....

You go into your local convenience store, and find out which people put down $20 for lottery, and which one puts down $1 for lottery.....

I remember the "skills games" issue back not more than 8 months ago. The wrong people were at those places. One must learn to pay their bills first, before "entertainment" (if you can call gambling entertainment. I call it a tax on stupidity)......just my views....


Jabarten

Posted 07:29 PM, 10/19/2008

shees....impression....sorry


Karen

Posted 07:40 PM, 10/19/2008

Amen Tim, been gambling since 1984 but never in Ohio for obvious reasons. People like me have been supporting other states like Nevada, Michigan, WVA., Pa., Ill., Ind., Va., N.Y., Canada etc. Ohio's loss is these states gain. Unfortunatly Ohioans lose out on the jobs. The casino workers in Pa. are tickled pink to have the new casino jobs opening up in their state. Just ask any of them working at the Meadows. A walk through the parking lot would make you think your in Ohio. (license plates)


Overtaxed Voter
Akron, OH

Posted 08:37 PM, 10/19/2008

There is no down side to approving Issue 6.

If you don't want to gamble...don't go there.

If you want Ohio $$$ to stay in Ohio, they can't unless Ohioans have a place to spend it. This casino offers those who travel to Detroit, Wheeling, Indiana, PA, and more the chance to stay close to home.

Last but not least, the $$$ come to the COUNTIES with no strings attached. I believe we can hold county officials much more responsible for spending the money wisely than we ever could the Governor and State Legislators.

Vote Yes On Issue 6


Smart Alex
Cuyahoga Falls, OH

Posted 10:50 PM, 10/19/2008

I do want Ohio money to stay in Ohio. But first we have to write a law that actually does this. Vote NO on 6 and push for a gambling law that actually benefits Ohioans.


BurnBabyBurn

Posted 12:57 AM, 10/20/2008

Fix the economics first, then I'll start voting yes on gambling. These casino schemes are like trying to put a turbocharger on a worn out engine. It'll work wonders; for about 10 minutes. And it has nothing to do with religious beliefs.


Karen

Posted 06:56 AM, 10/20/2008

The vote no is coming from Argosy Casino in Indiana. They dont want us to help Ohio, just Indiana. They dont care about Ohios job loss, just their own. A no vote is a vote for Indiana.


str8drvr

Posted 08:11 AM, 10/20/2008

I agree with Overtaxed Voter, If you don't want to gamble, don't go there. It's like every other freedom being legislated away. We will send our troops to war to protect our freedoms, however we won't be allowed to choose wether to gamble or not?

What percentage of lottery play is taxed? To me the state lottery is the biggest sham of them all, and has become the 800 lb gorilla. How much of the so called "lottery money for the school children" is actually generated, and how is it distributed?
















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