Did he go across the street and thank Diebold in advance for another stolen election?

It looked to me that 1/2 of those in the crowd were students. Unfortunately, they won't be voting. Hope they can talk their parents into voting for the "hockey" mom that wears Neiman Marcus clothes and the man with...how many houses? What a farce. Wake up normal folks. People usually retire at age 65 for a reason--how on earth do we allow someone at 72 to handle the most important job there is. Would your employer hire in someone at age 72?

My emplyoyer would'nt hire a man like obama either given his policies on the redistribution of wealth.

Two of the greatest leaders of our generation were Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan. Diane, it is a good thing you weren't there to discriminate against THEM because of their age as they stopped communism in its track and ended the Cold War without firing a shot! They were both older than Senator McCain as they accomplished the impossible.

Nice job Gregory. Keep up the fight for freedom and the American Dream. No to Obama, No to Socialism.

I wonder what time Obama's has to be in court in Hawaii today?

Gregory--and how many after 70 don't think as clearly? This one already shows erratic behavior.

Court? I think he's visiting an ailing relative. Unlike McCain who has a tendency to call his wife a C*NT in public, he actually cares about people.

Ohio 2nd in nation losing jobs and we elect more of the same, thanks to people afraid to try something new.

Diane,
How old is Joe Biden? He clearly has dementia already. Look at what he says. And he's had aneurysms. When he released his medical records he wouldn't release brain scans. Do you really want Nancy Pelosi in line to the Presidency behind someone with brain issues that won't release his records? The press won't highlight this because they give Obama a free pass on everything. McCain has to go negative because the press won't vet Obama. Then the press and Obama smear McCain for doing the job the press won't do.
Are you treating him the same way you are treating McCain?
Are your kids going to send you out to pasture when you are 70? I assume you are okay with that since you are treating Senator McCain like that. Did you ever hear of Popr John Pall II?
All of my grandparents worked into their 80s. My Grandfather was 88 when he retired.

Actually the FBI or the Secret Service wouldn't hire Obama either. He wouldn't get an interview. He would fail the background check because of Ayers who was much more than just a neighbor. Did you see the book review Obama wrote for Ayers in 1997. And Ayers mentions Obama in HIS book.
And Obama saying it's okay because he was 8 years old when Ayers was blowing up the Pentagon and the Capitol doesn't wash. By that logic in 2026 it would be fine to pal around with bin Laden. Obama has known Ayers for at least 15 years but lies about it.

Sam, If Diane were to be intellectually true to the readers out there, she might also mention the hundreds of MILLIONS that her candidate has spent on advertising and jetting around for this campaign as well as his (and his wife's wardrobe) costs for this campaign. Isn't it amazing how unbalanced their thinking (and complaining)can be?!

It's hard to believe anything McCain/Palin says when you just learned she spent $150,000 on her campaign wardrobe and $25,000 on personal travel for her family. They are both liars. Can't belive a thing they say now. Think about it - you probably won't spend $150,000 on clothing in your lifetime or $25,000 on travel. Talk about out of touch with the American people and the middle class.

Isn't it a violation of the Hatch Act, to hold a GOP rally at a public high school? What a disgrace. Young minds gathered like lambs to be slaughtered. I hope the younger voters see through McSame and realize that the GOP has created a present and future mess for THEM to clean up. Maybe they already have figured out that their futures have been plundered, maybe not

Is anyone else tired of the socialism LABEL? Because that's just another example of name-calling by McSame. Instead of name-calling, how about a realization that capitalism on its own ultimately fails? What is needed by our next administration is clear thinking. We can use a little bit of the aspects of each type of economy, because that is what we have evolved to. A little bit of capitalism, a little bit of socialism, mix them together into our democracy. We can use the helpful aspects of both. CLEAR THINKING.

Instead of Socilism let's just call it what it is, Communism. Come election day people are going to step in that booth and think to themselves, Do I wanna work hard, do all the right things and save money for my retirement and family and then spread the wealth with those who didn;t work hard? I am betting most people won't want to spread the wealth with the less fortunate(LAZY) people. Why is it that ACORN targets the poor areas where the uneducated live? That in itself should tell you something. It is not someones job to support others for the rest of their lives.

Last ditch effort for the republicans.

Socialism is not a "label" It is what best describes obama and his ideas. You may not like to see that truth in writing, but that does not make it wrong. A "little bit of socialism" obama wants total socialism. Look at his ideas and policies. There is no doubt about it.
To believe obama is not leading this country into socialism would call for the willing suspension of disbelief.

No to socialism, No to obama, Yes to the American Dream, Yes to freedom.

tim,

It's historical that your employer wouldn't hire someone like Obama based on his redistribution of melanin.

Hey Will...if a rally at a High School is against the law...you better tell John Kerry...2004 he spoke at Perry High School in Canton and Obama spoke at Median High School in Zanesville 2 weeks ago, But hey libs and facts well, they have none!!!

I was at the rally it was great!!! Lee Greenwood Singing God Bless the USA made everyone proud to be Americans!!!

Only person ever to say "spreading the Wealth" Karl Marx.... oh and Obama. Face it...P.U.M.A. the Democrats who are supporting McCain showed that this race is tight in Ohio and Pa. They claim ACORN stoled the election from Hillary in the primaries and are warning this will not happen again. I met so many Democrats at this rally. I can not believe how many of those Democrats are out there. It was great to get to know them.

Hey Diane...Michelle Obama wears $400 earrings and that CoCo Channel pink and Black dress from the rally in Virginia was $4000.00. So wealth is not good to you? Sad...that liberals only like wealthy Dems like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Barak Obama, Gorge Soros, Thersa Heinz-Kerry. Yea never heard ya say this when John Kerry was running.

Why does everyone fail to remember that McCain has made very same 'redistribution of wealth' comments before... I recall an event at MSU a while back.

Taxes are inherently socialistic. Both sides have raised taxes. Thus both sides could be labeled as socialists. Let's move on.

If you want to talk about socialism... let's take a look at the bailout.

Ed - Nice try. That tactic has been used by socialist for years and this time it will not work.

obama represents the new socialist party.
No to socialism, no to obama, Yes to the American Dream, Yes to Freedom.

I'll just be glad when this whole thing is over and we don't have to hear about it.

Dear Right-Wing Kooks Above: Your stupidity is only topped by your hypocrisy. Looks like "Caribu Barbie" needed to play dress-up to the tune of $150,000 clams. Wow!!! Some moose killing hockey mom that Sarah....by golly gee!!!! I know...all you dumb trailer park trash go every weekend to Saks and Neimen Markup for your dress needs. We all know that already. You so-called ordinary people make me want to vomit.

Dawn wants to talk about deibold...geez, funny that it all worked just fine for the last 3 yrs electing Democrats like Sharrod Brown-nose and Teddy "NBLA is Ok" Strickland. Deibolds could never do as much cheating as Obama's ACORN cheaters.

@Sam - please explain further. By claiming I am wrong and you are right with no supporting evidence, your statement holds no validity.

Please explain how both sides can take the same actions, but they can be labeled differently?

On January 20th, all of you kool aid drinkers will get out of bed and have to learn a new term:

President Obama

@Dave... please shut up. Who cares about what she spent on clothes. Do we criticize you for what you spend money on?

- Uncle Ed

Piper & Willow sure are liberal sounding names...

McCain really gets upset when he thinks the Dems are going to get into his pocket for his "fair share" of the tax money that we, the middle class, have to put up with daily. Let's face it, it how much can you give me today, or what can you do for me today. Don't get me started on Caribou Barbie. She is one heartbeat away from being President. Can you honestly say you want that?

When all of the middle class tax dollars go to the oil companies and people who have more money than they know what to do with already, the Republicans call it good old Capitalism.

When we send our collective tax dollars overseas to feed needy people,it bolsters or image as a caring and generous country. It is also a good way to cover up for our many transgressions around the globe.They call that good foriegn policy.

When we go to feed the needy people in our own country,they call them lazy people looking for a free ride, and whoever thought of that idea must be a Socialist.

Would it not benefit Corporate America if more of our consumers could actually afford to buy their goods and services,and not have to wonder where their next meal is coming from?

Make no mistake, McCain doesn't give a rat's azz about anyone who is not sitting on the Board Of Directors at some fortune 500 company. The rest of us are merely a liability to him,once he's got your vote. Please fellow Americans,don't let the Republicans fool us again.

I'm glad so many students got a chance to see American politics up close and personal.

Maybe they will have enough sense to change things from the nasty, low-down way their parents' generation are currently operating. Slander, lies and innuendo from both parties and their affiliated organizations seems to be the norm in just about every race out there.

The world is watching. Are you proud of how we ALL are behaving?

I've read transcripts of both campaign rallies (and watched on t.v. as well)

Nothing is ever said at the McCain/Palin rallies .. except for the one-liners"Joe the Plumber" "Mary the Nurse" "Ted the BrickLayer" .."don't share the wealth" a bunch of slang words that stick with ignorant people. .. and never getting to the point.

Here's the deal, BOTH McCain and Obama will be raising taxes. McCain intends to keep the current tax code in place giving tax cuts to major corporations and the very wealthy and hope that somehow this will trickle down. (even though he disagreed with this Bush policy in 2000 when he ran against Bush, calling it "irresponsible"… he was right then and Barack is right now.. it ISN'T WORKING. Nothing will "trickle down and get people working, businesses back up and running.

McCain wants to reward the same corporations that are and have been sending their work overseas.. (this is one of the item where he gets his nickname"McSame"). Again IT ISN'T WORKING!! Obama wants to cut taxes on small businesses (98% of small business aren't pulling in 250K)… and just for being in business, you'd get a tax break. on your capital gains tax.. Seems like Barack's plan is much more thought out and not just a bunch of catchy campaign on-liners to get people riled up. All the Joe the Plumbers out there will do much better under Obama's plan than McCain's (no) plan just more of the same.

Please don't vote if you don't listen to both sides and look each of their plans… people are suffering and need a change.

Ed - Thanks for repeating the socialist talking points. I would recommend that you do some research and some math. Your numbers don't match that of your socialist candidate.

Wake up people, Mccain believes in taxing the successful and rich more as well. In an exchange between mccain and a young women, October 12, 2000 in East Lansing, MI at Michigan State University:

A young woman asked mccain why her "father who went to school for 13 years gets penalized in a huge tax bracket because he is a doctor"

mccain: "I think it's to some degree that we feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more"

Woman: "Aren't we getting closer and closer to like Socialism and stuff."

mccain: "Here's what I I really believe that when you are reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more."

Wake up people, the republican'ts are MASTERS at getting the easily herded lemmings amongst us to follow their will.

Just say NO!!!

why is it racist to vote for mccain if your white and not racist to vote for obama if your black? other than that obama does not have the experience to run a country. the liberal media is making this closer than it should be.

Don't like a public school being used for political rallies ?? Well, I don't like public schools and colleges that teach "the lambs" all that liberal bullfertilizer. Most college professors lean "far left" and high school teachers unions are in the Democrats pants. Where do you think their loyalty rests ?? I'm a lot more scared at what these kids "learn" in school than using a football stadium for a political rally.

When we give our collective tax dollars to oil companies and others who already have more money than they know what to do with,the Republicans call it good old Capitalism.(cha-ching!)

When we send our tax dollars overseas to help needy people,and to take the focus off of the atrocities that we've caused, that's just good old foriegn policy.

When someone wants to feed our own needy people in this country,the Republicans call them lazy bums, and whoever thought of that idea must be a Socialist.

How can anybody not see what's wrong with this picture? Would it not benefit Corporate America to actually have consumers that can afford to pay for their goods and services?

McCain does not care about anyone who does not sit on the Board of Directors at some Fortune 500 company. The rest of us are nothing more than a liability to him,that is,once he gets your vote.

Please people,don't let the Republicans fool us again.

Here's something that has gotten little attention: A large delegation from the Russian government-controlled energy giant GAZPROM met with Palin aids and Conoco-Phillips in Alaska last week. They were discussing "business opportunities" around the proposed Denali natural gas pipeline that would run from the North Slope to the Lower 48.

Don't believe me? Just Google it. And then ask WHY?????

Dear Uncle Ed: Playing a STUPID AMERICAN on this site is patriotic. You Coochie Girl Palin is running as a REFORMER of out-of-control spending. Are you so ignorant that you cannot see the hypocrisy????

Republicans have been pinning socialism and redistributing the wealth on Democrats since FDR, and for some reason it still gets such a rise out of people. The big difference in Obama and McCain's tax plans is for the people making 250k a year, which won't affect the vast majority of the people posting here or at the rally in Green.

ATTENTION ALL "CRAZY LIBERALS"--we all just need to face that the Fascist Republicans will say ANYTHING because they are double digits behind in the polls. And unless they STEAL the election like in 2000, November 5th will bring a new day. Thisa country is full of "socialist" programs...Social Security, Workers' Compensation, SSI, Unemployment, Aid to Dependent Children etc etc...I am sure that these "Fascists" have at sometime collected from one of these. We, the "leftists" need to let their hatred slide off our backs.

Excuse me--Sarah Palin is touting herself to be "hockey mom" and then changing her whole persona with these Nieman Marcus outfits. If she's the Average Jane, let her wear Target clothes and keep to the image she is trying to portray.

As for her family--do those kids appearing on stage have a tutor? Hope so, don't want them ending up like their big sister. Where is she? Are they now trying to hide the big tummy? Did you hear her boyfriend is now a high school dropout?

And for all those that say Mrs. Obama wears Coco, etc., very true, classy lady (doesn't shoot moose on her days off). They are also the ones that are FOR the extremely rich to pay their fair share of taxes.

@Sam - Not really sure what you are reading, I think you might be delusional. Again, I am asking you to justify your statements with facts.

@Dave - I have already voted for Obama... I just wanted to call you out for trying to make issues out of things that do not matter... as in Palin's personal spending habits do not matter.

As for Joe Biden's health history---Thankfully, we (DEMOCRATS) have a candidate for President that is not an elderly man losing his mind with a dangerous disease lurking in his history (wish I could say the same for the Republican choice) so the Vice Presidential choice of Biden is not so much an issue. If he should die (Biden) isn't Obama allowed to appoint a new one? If so, I think Colin Powell would be a GREAT choice!

Too bad your Maverick couldn't tell his own campaign managers he wanted to go with Lieberman for VP. The Maverick is going to lose big time because of his "maverick" campaign choices. He might win Ohio because of the rural rednecks but most of the country has realized what has gone wrong the last 8 years and will elect OBAMA!

Most polititians are liars ... they lie to get the vote ... I want to know their hearts ... such has how to end homelessness, how to end hunger ... I'm tired of polititians talking bad about each other when they campaign ... and making promises they can't keep ... I am voting for Mccain, though because I'm voting on morals ... such as his stance on abortion ... but I don't think either one will do anything ... forget the donkeys and elephants ... let's go for the Lamb of God!

Wasn't Reagan 69 when elected his first term? Fine, 69 is a world of difference than McCain's present age. Also, many observers thought that he had dementia while in office: he was forgetful, falling asleep in meetings and so on.

McCain is getting a free pass on flubs including mixing up Middle East geography, Shiite and Sunni Muslims, and referring to Russia's relationship Czechoslovakia — a country that hasn't existed for 15 years.

"It was the same way with Ronald Reagan in the last few years he was president," Leahy said, referring to the belief that Reagan experienced early signs of Alzheimer's disease late in his presidency.

@Becky - you are not voting on your morals. If that were the case you would be voting for the the candidate who wants to help all people, not just the ones with money. You are tired of the negative campaign, yet you are voting for the candidate who even Rove said was the most negative campaign he has seen. You want to end hunger, but want to vote for the candidate who will cut funding.

No Becky you are not voting on morals... you are voting on one, and only one, issue... abortion.

Please note that this is one of the issues that the president has little to no control over. Please note that the republicans will NEVER overturn Roe v Wade. This one issue gives them too much control over single issue voters like yourself.

6 years of a Republican congress, 8 years of a Republican president, 2 mostly failed wars, a completely failed economy....Yeah, I think I'll vote Obama this time, as no viable third party candidate will ever emerge from the corrupt stranglehold the two major parties have on our political processes. Socialism is already present in our current supposed democratic government programs, therefore the fears of turning to socialism are completely unfounded as we've been trying to lean a little that way for a while now.

I think people are having a hard time with Socialism and Communism. Both are more different than people think, a simple Wikipedia search could help with that.

Any rednecks? Only two that I could see! Plus maybe the couple that believes in Nostradamus (interviewed on WKSU this morning)

Please note that there are two different Ed's here... the poster who posted at 11:08 AM is not the Ed who has been posting before.

Thanks - Uncle Ed

Diane,

So how do you classify Obama's classic flub: "My Muslim Faith" as stated on national TV for all to hear. I really don't care what his faith is, but he has adamently denied he is a Muslim. So how could he have made this type of gaffe?

You want to just ignore it?

I don't think calling people rednecks is a good strategy in this part of the country (especially your supporters).

Let's see, Biden claims Obama will be challenged in the first six months of his presidency and alludes that this is a fact. Which means he has been briefed and he has decided to "leak" the facts of this probably top secret brief to the world for some political gain. And the left wants to talk about Palin's judgement regarding her choice of clothes?

Come on, admit it, Bieden is a loose cannon and shows Obama's very poor judgement in selecting him over Hillary as his running mate.

Eric, I didn't hear the classic flub you speak of. When and where did he say that?

I wish people would stop the name calling on here. What purpose does that serve? As far as the candidates: I am a registered Democrat voting McCain this year. When the democrats return to a moderate or centrist candidate I will consider their candidate again. Yes, I know the president can only do so much; but with an all democratic, extremely liberal congress (Pelosi from San Fran? come on!) I cannot vote for Obama, who's escaped scrutiny like no other. Sorry folks, don't know or trust him enough.

Heard another person refer to this too, which is a concern: Obamanomics is Trickle Up Poverty. Really, the socialist countries cannot defend themselves,nor are they as prosperous as USA because they spend all their money on social programs, very little on a military. Remember, their populations aren't growing like ours is: immigration galore. No way can we take care of all these new people too; unless we ALL get poorer.

Sam - You preach that Obama will redistribute the wealth. You want to "save the American Dream"! I read an article in the San Diego Union-Tribune (one of the few papers to support McCain)about the economic inequalities that are growing in the world's richest countries. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development did a 20 year study of 30 member countries. 27 of the 30 have rising inequality. The US was the third worst ahead of only Turkey and Mexico in terms of highest inequality and poverty rates and the gap has risen rapidly since 2000 (gee, what a surprise). It states that "rising inequality threatens social mobility -children doing better than their parents, the poor improving their lot through hard work." This is all happened "even though trade and technological advances have spurred rapid growth in their economies"

So looks like redistribution of the wealth has been occurring the last eight years...to the rich.
Get off your pulpit with your "save the American Dream" crap. Most Americans don't and never will make $250,000. And I'm sure given the coice, they'll take the extra 3% tax and go on living happily rather than be at the other end.

Diane,

It was on George Stephanapolis' Sunday morning show about six weeks ago. You can search You Tube and find it - search term "My Muslim Faith". George was very helpful in correcting him, very much like Katie Couric helped Gov Palin during their interview (not).

I cannot with any satisfaction vote the democratic party. It has devolved to appeal to the lowest common deniminator. They appeal to the welfate class,, who historically prefer to lay about and collect welfare checks while the rest of us slave and toil.

Diane, do you think Obamination's suits come from Value City Department? Is this al you can think of. Why don't you check our why no hospital in Hawaii has his birth certificate. What happened to Hillary's investigation if where he was REALLY born?

s.m. Are you serious? The "welfare" class?

That's funny, especially with the trailer trash/redneck/unwed pregnant teenager/'first dude" wing taking over the GOP?
Hilarious.

Craig. No, I don't think he shops at Value City. The man is first class and dresses like one. I have no problem with how he dresses or how he spends his money.

He constantly mentions how he put himself through school with student loans and was lucky to hit it big. If he wants to wear expensive clothes--fine with me. Maybe he's a good example for the poor. Maybe this is what the country needs (a person that wasn't born into money and near the bottom of his class) showing the not-so-fortunate that better things can come in life if you work at it.

You're not getting my point--Palin wants to be "one of us" but changes herself with loads of money?

About hospital---maybe we should check out the Alaska hospital to see if that last kid is really hers. Check out how the now pregnant daughter was out of school during her mother's last 4 months of pregnancy, very strange. What is it about this woman---she has all these kids but they never seem to go to school. (Oh, the one in the service now--why didn't he graduate in Alaska? Someone kick him out of school?)

K, what are you talking about. I'm not being sarcastic, I don't who you mean.

Its as simple as this: Republicans care about transferring wealth to the top of society. Democrats care about the everyday man, including Joe the Plummer and Joe Six Pack. It amazes me how Christians who claim to know all about the love and compasssion of God can vote Rebublican. What a bunch of hippocrites.

Free pass, Diane. I bet JM knows how many states are in the US. Or is it acceptable when Obamination makes an error? Amazing how one of Reagan's nominees was destroyed by the media when he was scene smoking pot, but Obamination's admittance to doing drugs is swept under the rug of the liberal media. If he is elected do think that anyone who criticized him or asks a simple question that makes him look bad (i.e. Joe the Plumber) will be sent to prison or shot like in Germany during the late 30's/early 40's?

Posted by Will 07:35 AM, 10/23/2008
Isn't it a violation of the Hatch Act, to hold a GOP rally at a public high school? What a disgrace. Young minds gathered like lambs to be slaughtered. I hope the younger voters see through McSame and realize that the GOP has created a present and future mess for THEM to clean up. Maybe they already have figured out that their futures have been plundered, maybe not

Hahahaha
That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I have seen so far. This poster is ridiculs McCain for holding a simple rally where younger kids attend like "LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER".
It has been clearly noted in many liberal news articles that ACORN and Obama are targeting voter registration in the poorer communities where the uneducated live. And this poerson has the Odacity to make that comment about lambs? There are gonna be some upset people the day after the election when you realize the liar got caught.

Posted by Ed 11:08 AM, 10/23/2008
6 years of a Republican congress, 8 years of a Republican president, 2 mostly failed wars, a completely failed economy....Yeah, I think I'll vote Obama this time, as no viable third party candidate will ever emerge from the corrupt stranglehold the two major parties have on our political processes. Socialism is already present in our current supposed democratic government programs, therefore the fears of turning to socialism are completely unfounded as we've been trying to lean a little that way for a while now.

I think people are having a hard time with Socialism and Communism. Both are more different than people think, a simple Wikipedia search could help with that.

Tell that to the people in Argentina who are on the verge of having their pensions nationalized. those who didn;t work will now be reaping the benefits of those who did work and prepared for retirement. That's right, everyone will be sharing in the wealth of those who labored for a pension. And this is what NoBama will be pushing for next. Smooth talkers never really have viable plans, they are dreamers and latch onto others ideas. That's why Obama changes the course of his campaign daily. Let's not share the wealth.

ACORN has done nothing wrong. They hired young students to go out and register people, resulting in some of them getting lazy and making up names to fill in their shift. People who don't exist aren't going to vote.
Acorn did however successfully register over one million LEGITIMATE new voters in YES poorer communities who are probably voting democrat which is why they are being vicously attacked by the McCain lynch mob.

For all you parroting the GOP "socialism" absurdity, was John McCain a socialist back when he opposed the Bush tax cuts because they favored the rich at the expense of the middle class.

Of course there is video of him saying this over and over and over.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EyGpOU3qM

One difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans do not want the government to take their money they want to spend it where they want and to give it organziations that they know will work and that their money is going for a good cause.

Democrats take my money with higher taxes so that they can give it to programs that quote help other people. But then the government has more controll than what they should.

It is easy to be a christian and vote republican. Republican believe in a defined marriage as one man and one women. Republicans are for Pro Life, and Republicans are for lower taxes which means I have more money to spend where I want to spend it. So if I want to donate it to my local boys and girls club, United Way, boyscouts, ect. I can choose that. I'm not funding government programs that don't work.

Whoever is complaining about the cost of Sarah's waredrobe is not thinking too well. One she is not spending that Money the Republican Party has spent that money to make their canidate dress to their standards.

The republican party also announced that they will be donating her campaign waredrobe to charities.

So you are complaining that someone is spending money in this economy which in turn is keeping a job for someone and then donating the clothing to charity after the election. Am I missing something here?

Jimmy,

So what you are saying is a person who changes his opinion/position when presented with facts that proves the position is wrong lacks moral character? But a person who dogmatically sticks to a position/opinion regardless of the facts (e.g. Obama and the surge) has strong moral character?

Can I have some of that Kool-Aid your drinking?

One Lucky Guy:

BOTH parties will spread wealth under their plans, McCain will give tax cuts for the very wealthy like we have now (hence his nickname McSame) and somehow this will trickle down, and Obama will tax the Exxon Mobiles of the world the more wealthy and give breaks to Middle Class (the people who also work in this country and haven't had a break in a long time).

Actually Sarah Palin has shown her own "Socialist" and wealth spreading tendencies by taking money from oil companies and giving it to the citizens of Alaska (isn't that supposed to be socialism??)

To J; Your a registered Democrat? I wonder when was the last time you voted for one. Your logic makes you sound more like a republican. You might as well switch. Congratulations! You've just joined the "holier than thou" party. Ohio has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. We've had a republican in the White House for 8 years. How's your trickle down economics working for you?

Joe Biden, Obama’s own VP pick, declared that Obama will face “an International Crisis” within his first six months as President.

FACT: Both candidates will face crises during their administrations and most likely early. History shows that a new President is always tested..(Joe Liberman (R) pointed this out before Binden) Biden just,I must admit,inartfully, pointed out the obvious.. Politicians everywhere know this.. Middle America freaks out . owell.

We have been given a preview of how both candidates react to a crisis. In the recent economic meltdown, Obama was calm, reassuring and steady. McCain was melodramatic, erratic, and ineffective.

Erin,

Who pays corporate taxes? If ExxonMobil is slapped with an "excess profits tax" will they pay it, or will they pass the cost onto the consumer?

Taxing the rich to give to the middle class and poor will do two things:

Force the "Rich" to cut costs (lay off workers) and force them to raise prices to compensate for the increased costs. In either case, the middle class and poor will suffer. There is no way out of this scenario without nationalizing business, which then effectively torches our economy.

Taking from the Rich to give to the Poor sounds great (Robin Hood), but in practice it is horrible economics; causes inflation, higher unemployment and lower efficiency.

One Lucky Guy:
Touchy subject, I know, but stay with me here:
Your pro-life thing… wouldn't a fiscally conservative, non-spending agenda that the (Christian) Repubs defend …cutting spending on Programs like Foster Care and Group Homes/Orphanages… that's where unwanted babies end up.. NO they don't get adopted by loving, rich parents. Interesting what the world will look like if Roe v. Wade gets overturned. For the record.. probably a lot like it did before 1973 when it was inacted.. Women getting them anyways.. the ones with money take a trip to Europe, and the ones without money either die by illegal basement abortions, or give birth, can't afford, child grows up with hard life and some turning to life of crime

It's going to be a landslide this year. GO OBAMA! If his White House is anything like his campaign, things will soon be better.

One Lucky Guy:

Both candidates will face crises during their administrations and most likely early. History shows that a new President is always tested..(Joe Liberman (R) pointed this out before Binden) Biden just inartfully, I must admit pointed out the obvious.. Politicians everywhere know this.. Middle America freaks out .
We have been given a preview of how both candidates react to a crisis. In the recent economic meltdown, Obama was calm, reassuring and steady. McCain was melodramatic, erratic, and ineffective.

Eric, I'm sure you were using that same logic when the right was smearing Kerry as a flip flopper.

IOKIYAR.

Diane

Stupid is as stupid does.

Jimmy,

The "Flip Flopping" charge doesn't get much traction with me. I have issue with candidates who change positions based on their audience (e.g. BHO's speech in front of a Jewish Group contradicted a statement he made the next day). That's not changing positions based on facts, its pandering, which Kerry did a lot of.

McCain flip flops more than Kerry EVER did on issues. There's like, I don't know, 30 or so different YouTube clips of him contradicting himself on COUNTLESS occasions. What does this say? McCain is a businessman who will do whatever it takes to win, plain and simple, even if that means his proposals change from town to town to get it done. Not that McCain is talking proposals in any way whatsoever on his campaign trail stops. Slogans and propaganda seem to be the NORM as this election winds down. Slogans won't save our country from this economic crisis, nor will propaganda sway any intelligent voter to suddenly change their minds. It's time for REAL change, the type of change that only an Obama lead nation can provide. We NEED more socialism in this country, as taxes will raise for everyone anyways, might as well get our education and healthcare rankings higher in the meantime. Wouldn't hurt to have someone like Obama and Biden restoring some of our lost stature in the eyes of our world allies either.

All I need to know about the rally in Green is that Gretchen Wilson opened up with her big hit "red neck woman". I'm glad to see that the McCain-Palin ticket is doing all that they can to squelch the "red neck" comments like "off with his head" and "kill him". It seems that they welcome this type of supporter. But, the republicans are desperate now, and desperate times call for desperate measures....

Another thing I don't understand about all these socialism gripes: If were willing to sacrifice our own families blood to secure OIL supplies in the mideast, then why can't we pay a little more in taxes to have a stronger, healthier, and more educated country?

I'm all for keeping as much as you earn on paper, and I don't like lazy welfare abusers either, but at some point you have to educate those lazy people, and put them in better positions to succeed, going all the way back to the early school years. This all starts with better education, and having a universal health care plan for those under 21 is WAY OVER DUE and will only HELP us in the long run, as no one in here can deny that a healthy nation for all, is a stronger nation for all.

Another thing I don't understand about all these socialism gripes: If were willing to sacrifice our own families blood to secure OIL supplies in the mideast, then why can't we pay a little more in taxes to have a stronger, healthier, and more educated country?

I'm all for keeping as much as you earn on paper, and I don't like lazy welfare abusers either, but at some point you have to educate those lazy people, and put them in better positions to succeed, going all the way back to the early school years. This all starts with better education, and having a universal health care plan for those under 21 is WAY OVER DUE and will only HELP us in the long run, as no one in here can deny that a healthy nation for all, is a stronger nation for all.

Republican by choice.

Obama will get my vote for PRESIDENT.

I will vote Republican for Congress and Local.

When Slick Willy was in office, I made A-LOTTA-MONEY. Yes, I put my trust in Clinton only because I had a Republican Congress to keep him in check. This year, I will try a new approach.

To have a DEM Pres and DEM Congress would be a disaster. To have a REP Pres ans REP Congress would be just as bad. It never works.

Maybe some of who calling Obama the MESSIAH and others who call McCain the walking dead will put your third grade comments to the side & actually think about how your vote can change our country.

I see all these claims of "Socialist this" and "Tax breaks for Exxon that". Face it, you don't know ALL THE FACTS (100% truth) to either sides plans and if you did, I wouldn't be reading your post on some Akron website. You'd be on the campaign bus.

McCain is not 100% right, Nor is Obama. One thing is for sure, your assets are worth ZERO and something has to change for the better of us all.

@ Ohio:

Bravo. Great post.

Eric,

my sister in law makes 500K a yr.; she is CEO of a fortune 500 company located in NJ.. She is voting for Obama. Honestly, I don't talk to her much (but will soon and will get right back to ya, on her position) to find out how she's going to face the taxes under Obama.. she is not however an Exxon Mobile who will inturn pass the buck onto anyone else..

On the same token Brian Williams on Imus Show this morning and on the Rachel Meddow show last night subtly expressed is utter disdain for Palin and McCain.

Williams no doubt will be voting Obama/Biden.. Now Williams makes way more than 250K a yr. and would be taxed higher under Obama's plan.

He's obviously a proven intelligent and respected man and watched by millions.. perhaps he knows he won't have to endure the negative perception we have in countries abroad when he travels, .. somehow he thinks Obama is going to move this country in the right direction. Maybe he's sick of reporting unnecessary disaster after disaster created by the greed and out-of-touchness with our current administration (ie: McCain Term 3 of Bush)?

P.S. as far as small business owners making 250K a yr or more.. how about not claiming all your dough, get a good accountant like everyone else with lots of money and keep it somehow.

@ Erin

No kidding. I'm surprised more people aren't bringing up the fact that if you own a small business and youre PROFITS near 250,000, that a really good accountant, which you should be able to afford, could cut down your overall earnings to a size where you wouldn't face the additional taxes Obama would create for you.

Thanks Ed.. and good point about the PROFITS aspect of the thing.. I really wish Obama can explain his plan more vigirously .. perhaps he needs to use the catch phrase one-liner words such as the McCain camp does in order to stick in peoples minds esp. the ones that can only comprehend buzz words like "Joe the Plumber" "Mary the Nurse" "Ted the BrickLayer" .."sharing the wealth" "socialist" communist" "terrorist" "Elitist" McCain is counting on A LOT of votes from people like that...not all of them.. but A LOT of them.

McCain’s 44 flip-flops:

FOREIGN POLICY

* Attacking Terrorists In Pakistan


* Defense Spending

* Detention Of Detainees

* Divestment And Sanctions

* Donald Rumsfeld

* Henry Kissinger

* Illegal Wiretapping


* Law Of The Sea Convention

* Long-Term Troop Presence In Iraq

* Negotiations With Hamas

* Negotiations With Syria

* Normalization Of Relations With Cuba

* Nuclear Reactors


* Nuclear Waste Storage At Yucca Mountain

* Rogue State Rollback

* Torture

* 21st Century GI Bill

ECONOMY

* AIG Bailout

* Americans Live Better Under Bush

* Balancing The Budget

* Bush Tax Cuts


* Earmarks For Arizona

* Fairness Of The Estate Tax

* Job Losses In Michigan

* Social Security Privatization

* Tobacco Industry Regulations

* Windfall Profits Tax

IMMIGRATION

* The Dream Act

* Comprehensive Immigration Reform

RADICAL RIGHT

* The Confederate Flag

* Jerry Falwell And The Religious Right

* The NRA


* Teaching Intelligent Design

ENVIRONMENT/ENERGY

* Ethanol


* Everglades Restoration

* Offshore Drilling

ETHICS

* Criticizing The Media

* Katrina Investigations

* Lobbyists


* The Wyly Brothers

CIVIL RIGHTS

* Gay Marriage Amendment

HEALTH CARE

* Abortion Exceptions

* Repealing Roe v. Wade

* Taxpayer Funding For Contraception In Africa

Erin,

I'm not rich and will get a tax cut under his plan but realize it is not in the best interests of the country.

There are rich people who feel guilty about being rich and want the government to take more from them and their friends. There are others who are angling to become even more rich under Obama's tax policies. Warren Buffett several months ago said the rich should pay more taxes. but there is no evidence he or any other rich person ever wrote a check to the US treasury greater than his legal tax burden.

Brian Williams intelligent? He is a news reader, and take a look at his ratings to see how he is perceived in the marketplace.

Eric, It's Erin..

Warren Buffet.. maybe he gives to charity. Maybe he's not asking to pay more than his legal tax burden.. he'd up it that's all he said.

Well I like Brian Williams and was a little shocked (not realy the journalist part) that he showed his preference today and last night - I've never seen him project his opinion like that in a story(he did mention on Imus that He really misses Tim Russert through all this...so maybe.. who knows..
So who do you prefer..Katie Couric?? lol.
Watch Brian Williams tonight, your girl Sarah Palin will be on.. and i heard she doesn't even gaf.

Erin,

I've been keeping track - Biden is far ahead of Palin in the gaffe catagory.

You were shocked that Williams showed his preference? Apparently you don't watch him very often. On the rare occasion over the past year or so that NBC news is on when I turn on my TV, he
has been drooling over any Obama graphics. He may have even been sporting wood. But he is always sitting behind a desk so I can't tell.

Don't rely on the alphabet networks for news. They are all die hard liberals.

LOL.. I agree the media is liberal.. except FOX of course...

I am also (all Democrats) are well aware of our Straight talk Express, gaff machine Biden. (And I do hope they lock him in a room until after election).. But at least he can put a sentence together without rambling on into ..god knows what..like at least he can name the newspapers he reads without accusing the reporter of asking "Gotcha Questions".

No matter what side you're on I think we can all agree that SNL's act on the VP debates was hilarious.

So after all the liberal nonsense some of you hacked up, do you think you changed anyones opinion or perhaps you only raised your blood pressure

I think only the second

I think that is was a wonderful experience for our community and students. They were able to shadow the secret service, media, and campaign managers. Regardless of your political affiliation, you have to recognize the learning opportunities for our students. Green Memorial Stadium is a private facility and was rented for the rally. Green benefited both educationally and finacially so I say it was "a win, win situation." If OBama would have requested Green, they would have also accepted graciously. I am proud to live in Green and proud of their choices. I am not so proud with those who have political blinders on and would rob our kids from one of the greatest experiences of their lives. It was amazing to witness democracy in our back yards.

@ Michaela

I don't think I've changed anyone's opinion, but I do sort of hope that when this is all said and done to get an apology from most of you, which I'm sure I most likely won't get. I spread the facts about Bush and his policies the past 9 years and no one listened, NOW look where we are. Where's my apology for no one listening to me in THAT situation? haha.

Having attended this rally in person, about 4% of it were children, there with their parents seeing politics in action. the rest of us where small business owners and entrepenuers that make this country tick.
Not you at GM, Diebold Or sorry it went Hoover, that made products not acceptable in costs to the 'American Public', Oh that is right yourself.
So you actually helped end your carreer, cut your own throats and that of the nation by being greedy Gus's and wanting everything for free or on credit. Now you want us to pay it for you again because your lazy and ignorant.
Sorry wil not happen. Say hello to poverty, third world status and Slavery under Obama.
Slavery is still practiced in AFRICA-MIDDLE EAST AND ASIA. No here also.