Let me help the memory of why we lost soilders.

911,911,911,911,911,911,911,911,911,911,911

God bless our soilders who keep us free. Lets win this war against MUSLEM EXTREMIST WHO ATTACKS AND KILLS AMERICA AND WANT TO DESTROY OURS COUNTRY.

Support our troops,, they are the sharp point of our protection. First to fight and die,, they are our hope and our blessing.

Amen, snake! The TIP OF THE SWORD!

Two quick points:

#1) How many terrorist attacks have we had in our country since 9/11?
#2) Rep. Sutton's body count differs from the picture by over 600. Someone needs to check facts.

May God bless and protect our troops!!

Stop crying about the $ of this war.
This is the price of Freedom...
By the way have any of you served in our
armed forces?
Yes war sucks and it costs a lot of Cash but at least we are not fighting
Here...
God Bless our Troops, Our Country, And Our new Prez

I am curious. as the war in Afghanistan ramps up, as per Obama's orders, and the body count starts to mount, will these same people protest that war?? I am guessing not.. after all.. Iraq was Bush's war.. Afghanistan is the Messiah's war and that is OK.

By the way. they are protesting the cost?? Any protest on TRILLION dollar deficits as per Obama being mounted?

@all idiots-iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.even bush eventually admitted this.turn off limbaugh and get some education.in regards to terrorist attacks-there were none in the u.s. since 1993 at the wtc.until you morons realize what a sham bush has pulled,you will continue to be embarassingly ignorant of pertinent facts regarding history.google "loose change" and see what is obviously a government cover-up of the events of 9/11.

At least this is a protest I can understand. We gonna get the feds investigating for this?

OH MY GOD! "Loose Change"?! Please be serious! This piece of garbage should've been put out (probably was) by the fat b--tard, Michael Moore.

Support our Troops = Protest the War

Lie Detector, snake, Bergermeister, Wolf.....thank you for some sanity on this issue!

Dana Williams: What do you want to do with the money you save by not funding the military? Let's give out more free programs, heat, food and housing to people who do NOTHING to earn it. Is this what you are teaching the skulls full of mush in your Sociology classes?

I should have asked liberal Dana Williams what her plan for the country is without a military. That should be rich.

Sheila, if that ever happens....a country without a military, we would be rich, for the taking!

More people were killed in Chicago over the same time period than in the entire Iraq war. Which place is the bigger war zone?

I would rather spend a trillion dollars any day to defend our country rather than give 1/10,000 of that to the several liberal interest groups Obama is funding.

toxic, you're as ignorant as they come. We averaged an attack on American soil once every 16 months under Clinton. American embassies in Africa, the Khobar Towers, the USS Cole, et al.

Go back to 10th grade and shut up.

Correct, Elite. And let's not even mention the numbers in Detroit, LA, etc.

We lose 10 times more Americans in traffic accidents PER YEAR than we have lost in Iraq. None of you touting the number of deaths care about these people, so quit pretending you do. If you did, you would honor what they have VOLUNTEERED to do, and what they GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR.

toxic- no name, cloverfield, thunder are the same person...look at the writing style. Frequently he sings his own praises under other names!

Will someone make a protest sign that says "Help, I am surrounded by a bunch of Anti-American LOSERS! And stand in the center of these people? They want us to be totally out of it but they shifted from Soldiers dead to money waisted. The first invasion force that comes across our border they will still be saying give up. No way you bunch of nit-wits.

the only invasion force at our border is illegal aliens.you know the ones bush would do nothing about.i support the troops.that is why i want them withdrawn from a country that poses no threat to us.IRAQ IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11!when will you get it?comparing soldiers deaths to traffic stats is right out of limbaugh's mouth.if that is where you receive your kool-aid from,then there is no point in trying to talk on an intellectual level.you have a right to be stupid,just don't keep abusing it.

@toxic nut We're waiting for you to talk on an intellectual level, but I haven't seen you do it nor expect you to.

Watch the Obama deception on you tube, wake up people.

MaD, quit wasting everyone's time and get off of it.

You're an immature high school student that has yet to debate me on a single point I've ever presented, so you start making false accusations that I'm signing in under other names to praise myself. Why would I need to do this if you can't debate anything I've ever presented to you?

In addition, AGAIN, when people write multiple posts in a row, the forum does not list there name. There is no such person as "no name."

Now go back to your English homework

Toxic nut, I don't even listen to Limbaugh! You are completely ignorant! Just because you can't debate any issues Limbaugh presents does not mean that he and anyone who happens to see things his way is a follower.

Iraq is not responsible for 9/11. Instead, they are responsible for breeding, funding, and harboring terrorism and terrorists (some of which planned 9/11 IN Iraq WITH Iraq's support and protection). Bush never said we were going into Iraq because of 9/11. He said we were going into Iraq if the terrorist dictator that ruled that country, was responsible for murdering hundreds of thousands of people, had invaded other lands, frequently broke UN rules against him, and continuously tried to build mass weapons caches and WMDs (YES, WMDs) did not step down. Saddam refused to step down, and we followed through on our word.

If you don't even know the history of a war that began 6 years ago, you have absolutely no business commenting on it. I fear what your children will earn about the history of our country, given your proven ignorance.

I felt 100% safe under the Bush administration following 9-11. I still feel that way to a point, but I fear any implementations created by the previous administration will be slowly dismantled by Mr. Obama, starting with military funding. There goes the safe factor.

Oh great, I just realized I'm posting below Cloverfield and "no name". Here comes the wrath of the Mogadore Moron, MaD.

Gee, how ironic the previous three posts would be presented by the multipersonality who writes under three different names, and they'd be a right wing position!

@cloverfield,or whomever-everything you said about iraq and hussein would equally apply to bush.-invaded another country,killed hundreds of thousands of people,had WMD's,violated U.N. rulings,and also refused to step down when demanded.i hope everything bush did in his 8 yr. regime is corrected.the guy had no business trying to run this country after his incompetent handling of other aspects of his life came to light.don't let FOX news rot your brain too much.hannity is not as bright as you think.

cloverfield- no name means just that, posted under no name! You are so busted...

cloverfield, no name, thunder- look, back to back posts...

cloverfield, thunder, no name, back to back to back posts...boooooogus!

MaD, does your mommy know you're on line? Really, son, you are MOST annoying to people who post to both sides of a story.

And now, folks, prepare to be entertained by more postings from MaD, stating that Cloverfield and myself are the same people. More of the "back to back posts, booooogus, sooo busted" tripe this child tends to spew out.

Don't you have a "My Space" page to rework?

Thunder, cloverfield, noname booooogus- Toxic, and others spell it out to you, and you go into your mom's basement typing out your name calling ramblings. Then, you pull out your other personalities to fake support of your distorted views... You've been busted in your scheme because you've posted two exact blogs with two of your different names...boooooogus!

MaD, let the record show that this is the last time I will respond to you until you actually make one point on any forum.

You'll continue ranting, thinking it is bugging me or Thunder, but you will be looked at like a complete fool by everyone on this forum, and, just like any 10th grader, you will soon realize that nothing you say is significant when everyone ignores it.

Toxic, I was beginning to respect your posts as they seemed more reasonable, but that just blew it.

So you're saying that police officers are just as guilty as criminals too because they, like criminals, carry weapons, sometimes shoot people, have killed people, have used violence, etc.? If so, there's no point in even debating this subject. You're beyond help.

cloverfield, thunder, noname, boooogus- This entire forum is an exchange of ideas about current events. I can only surmise based upon your need to create other fictitious people to support your position, and call other people names is based upon your own insecurity, and anger...

I applaud the poeple who had the cahones to call this insane invasion the tragic farse that it is way back when everyone was happily marching to Baghdad under some simplistic slogans and fabricated pretences.
It was a tragically flawed strategy, that got us here, and no amount of rehashed excuses or justifications will ever have the slightest semblance of truth.

Toxic brings the best argument to the table in saying Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11...This war was about JR Bush finishing a job daddy left incomplete at the wrong time! If daddy was going to do it when he had the world's support, do it then...not ten years later with sonny on a white horse!

Silly little people, keep on marching, but the wall will not fall.

instead of watching fox news all night,try reading some books by richard clarke or scott mcclellan.these were people who were there when events took place.they have said that the "emporer has no clothes".read vincent bugliosi or david griffin and then tell me you still believe that the bush administration was not a pack of lies that had nothing to do with the war on terrorism.check out "my guantanamo diary" to see what our government has deemed as terrorists.i have crosschecked many resources to come to my conclusions.i ask that you do the same.one question-why would bush oppose an investigation into 9/11 for so long?you would think he would welcome it,if there was nothing to hide.

hey Mad....get your head out of your 4th point of contact......Bush SR was following the UN directive when he liberated Kuwait. The UN did not want him to pursue Hussain into Iraq....just to free Kuwait.

Scout- Get my head out of what? The following is from the Gulf War US led coalition...Instead, Bush encouraged the Iraqi's to rise up against Saddam, and over 100,000 were executed! Show me a site saying the UN gave the order to pull out!!!

There was some criticism of the Bush administration for its decision to allow Saddam Hussein to remain in power, rather than pushing on to capture Baghdad and overthrowing his government. In their co-written 1998 book, A World Transformed, Bush and Brent Scowcroft argued that such a course would have fractured the alliance and would have had many unnecessary political and human costs associated with it.
www.answers.com/topic/gulf-war

i hope these home grown terrorists march straight off a bridge!

@ All you republican neo-cons

You make me sick with your sheepish following of the GOP to the letter. Protesting was what got our country founded to begin with. If we don't have people out there fighting authority, authority will run mad with power. This is a factual history lesson.

So many of you take a Ohio State VS. Michigan mentality when it comes to politics and can NEVER find fault in whatever party you back. If any of you GOP backers were TRUE Americans, you would know the meaning of these words:

"Question authority, think for yourselves..."

firestone- the republicans are the true americans. we believe in free people, individual success, and capatalism. you know, the things this country was built on. democrats believe in dependance, government control, and socialism. the best way to describe just how unamerican democrats are is the civil war. the democrats of the south tried to succede from the union on the basis of wanting to keep an entire race of human beings from their god given right of freedom. thank god the republicans won that one ey? although some moron will try to dispute this fact if you know anything about politics and do a little research you will find that to be factual.

hey Mad,,,,,yea,,I can read Wikapedia too. All I know is...we were ordered to halt at the Iraqi border....our command was ordered to halt from UN guidelines....we were not to cross the border. Your 4th point by the way is your a**.

If you don't want to stand behind our troops...you are more than welcome to stand in FRONT of them!!! Any takers????

@ ouch

Just goes to show you how much you follow history.

The Republicans during Lincoln's time were MUCH more reminicent of today's liberals and democrats than today's Republicans. The ideals began to get skewed with FDR. Read something once in a while, it might help you here when you're in here talking tough.

@ Maxwell

I stand behind my troops 100% when they're actually fighting for our freedoms.

When we're pretending to be fighting for our freedom in a country that ranked well behind Syria, Iran, or Afghanistan in the 'terrorist' department, THEN I have an issue.

If we hadn't spent so much time wasted in Iraq (not saying we couldn't have invaded/liberated them at some point) we could have finished and held the job down in Afghanistan, and now we find ourselves in a bigger conflict there than we had all of 2001-2003.

Bottom line? Iraq was the wrong war at the wrong time, no matter how you try to defend it.

My issue is that if you are protesting the war then you are protesting our men and women over there! And if you think I am wrong, just ask one of the soldiers that has just returned!! How do you think these men and women feel when they see these protests?? I can tell you after talking to MANY of them....they feel under-appreciated and taken for granted!! Do I think it's the wrong fight??? Maybe...it's not my decision and it's NOT MY JOB (which is what these men and women are doing....their JOB)to criticize or judge what's going on over there!! Quite frankly...it's out of my hands!!! The only thing I can do is support them WHOLE HEARTEDLY until they come home....ANY way they come home!!!

Scout- did you go to the site I'd provided, if you had you'd seen it's not Wikepedia...Provide a site saying we were ordered by the UN, or is it because you said it that makes it true! Getting my head out, is this the best you can do in matching wits?

firestone- let me educate you since you obviously never made it past 6th grade. abraham lincoln, you know, that guy that came up with something called the emancipation proclimation, also u.s. president was a REPUBLICAN. jefferson davis, that guy that was president of the confederate states of america, was a DEMOCRAT. this is your history lesson for today. please take note of it. MORON!

@ Maxwell

I have to disagree with you on the comment you posted that said that protesters are protesting our men and women fighting over there.

They're protesting to bring them HOME.

They're protesting because they care enough to take time out of their own personal lives to make a STAND regarding decisions they didn't agree with.

They're protesting the decisions made by corrupt men in suits, many of which have never seen any time in the armed forces.

They're protesting because in America, it's the most patriotic, peaceful way to get lawmakers to take notice.

Without people in the streets demanding change, the corporate greed behind Wall Street, and the lobbyists in D.C. will run rampant and control our lives even more.

What the world NEEDS in this, the most critical of junctures in time, is MORE people willing to leave the comfort of their homes to protest decisions, NO MATTER THE PARTY, and demand that the PEOPLE of this country get fair and HONEST representation. Something that has been sorely missing for far too long.

@ ouch

hahahahhahaha. That's all I have to 'say' about your last post.

No need to match wits with you Mad.....I was there...I know what took place.....you are getting you info from some website.....where were you in 91??

Scout- No need to match wits, what's up with getting my head out? Where were you going with that? So being there in 91 means you were part of the decision making process? Everything I've read does not include the UN making a withdraw decision...

dissent is the most patriotic act there is.it shows we care enough to not follow idiots whether they be congressmen,senators,or presidents.regarding lincoln being a republican,if you would read his speeches and delve into his ideology,you would have hated him also.he was a progressive liberal by todays standards.republicans now,border on facism.they eschew any view differing from their myopic visions of a reagan type camelot.the third reich would be proud of them.

I thought the messiah's first act was to bring our troops home from Iraq, or did that promise expire 11/2/08?

Hey MaD, say something stupid.

@brainwashed-i agree on the point of getting out of iraq.obama needs to adress that right now or he will lose all credibility.

brainwashed- I don't need to say anything stupid, you're doing this on your own!

look at the picture of john beaty. you can tell he's another recycled '60's dope smokin hippie who tried to turn his pathetic life around by becoming a preacher. today he's holding up a sign about dead soldiers. 40 years ago he was probably spitting on them.

@ ouch

Why do you still think that protesters and 'hippies' are against the soldiers? They're SO pro-military that they care enough to go out of their way to TRY and bring them home from a war we fought at the wrong time to begin with.

Anyone can spout off that they 'support' our troops, but these people are actually taking to the streets to support the troops and the LIVES they may lose in the wrong war.

FIRESTONE- the protesters are the same liberal dope smokin hippies of the '60's and their misguided kids. they only use the soldiers deaths as a rally point to continue their hatred of america. if they really cared about those soldiers they would be on the white house lawn demanding that the elected by deception one would do somethig, or maybe they would be doing something useful for the soldiers' families rather than wandering around some street corner in downtown akron waving signs around and running their mouths.

also firestone, after reading alot of your posts, you seem to hate america too, so why do you care?

It is sad how little many of the posters know about what has occured the last 8 years under the Bush Administration, the misguided reasons and falsehoods for invading Iraq, and the foolishness of trying to win in Afghanistan, particularly when no one can say what winning will look like. And yes, though I voted for Obama, I am very much against his ridiculous plans for sending more troops to Afhganistan.

A patriot is someone who even stands up for what is right in the face of ignorance, and deceit, ridicule. The founders of this nation were well aware of the danger of power being concentrated at the top and what foriegn wars might do to this nation. And they of course were patriots, even though they were outnumbered early on in their protest of the subjugation of their colonies to England. There are too many false patriots posting here. People who wrap themselves in the flag or religion, and have no in depth understanding of the false reasons we went into Iraq, and the impulse our nation has had for empire since WWII.

It looks like not funding No Child Left Behind has produced a bunch of lightweights unable to think. Let's just turn on Fox News and let them do the thinking for us. Yeah, that is partiotic.

Michael, you sound VERRRRRRY educated on this topic. Please tell us all these misguided reasons, and we'll have a realistic debate about this.