YeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw

Ohio voters finally got something right!

Great, Now lets get started on voting to legalize prostitution. We cannot have our out of state guests not have their gambling and call girls.

dduckster,
I agree. Let's legalize prostitution and marijuana. Then we'll have something relatively unique here! Let's just do it in Cleveland though so it can become the Amsterdam of the United States!

Issue 3:

All our economic worries are over, except as the gambling market grows more saturated, the tax revenues will dive. When the communities start to realize the social consequences of gambling, it will be too late. After the construction is over, all that will be left are minimum wage service jobs. Heck of a way to grow the economy in Ohio.

whatever nmaxxs. you are just bitter because your dems took a beating. haaa. and no I don't feel like being a gracious winner. I have had to read your trash talking for months. now maybe obama might concentrate on working with dems and republicans and maybe pelosi will just shut up. her seat isn't looking so safe anymore. nice to see them all squirm

Those of you against the casinos are pathetic! Crime, drugs and prostitution are already here! At least with revenue from casinos, we may be able to provide additional law enforcement resources to combat the downside. You don't like gambling in this State ... then move! I also believe any county that did not support Issue 3 should not benefit from any of the revenues received from them!

Legalized gambling won't be so bad. Now all the poor people can give their very last dime to the casino owner. Maybe they will quit standing on the corner of RTE 8 and Buchtel now. And to the remarks made by "Retired", you need to chill out old man. I think all grumpy old men should move out of Ohio, and the U-haul is in front of your house.

Thank goodness this has been put to rest. Now the state can work on more pressing issues: Job creation, School funding, and Healthcare. We tend to get bogged down and entrenched in positions on both sides of the aisle without ever solving the real hard issues facing all Ohioans.

two words, "numbers man". gambling has always been in Ohio, just not legally. you can place a bet on anything @ anytime with any amount as long as you know the right people. i bet they had a line on if the issue would pass or not.

@nmaxxs

What is your solution to bring "better jobs" to Ohio? A job is a job. I am thinking about applying as a second job. But I guess that this job oportunity is bad because it is only "minimum wage service job"

I'm with John, lets legalize prostitution & mary jane, all for the sake of a profit....

Scott: I'd rather put my money in a slot machine than pour it down my throat in the form of alochol! What makes you think I'm a man? You know nothing!

Families lose.

I tend to agree with you Retired. We shouldn't stop progress out of fear of what might happen. Some bad things may happen but I thihk the majority will be very good for Ohio. We can't not build a car out of fear that someone will commit a crime with it.

I'm not against casino's but I am against selling the license for 50 million when surrounding states are getting 450 million. They also get a tax rate around 50%. Instead of Ohio getting this billion dollars we gave it to a few men.

Well, hopefully the new GOPs can fix all that ails our wonderful country. As for casinos, great. The people that think the poor will waste all their money there, where do you think their money goes now?? Probably to drugs, alcohol, cigs etc. And if they want to spend their money on that or a casino, that is their problem. It is more cash for our state. Lastly, I just hope the politicians keep their word on where the cash is actually used.

Those who want to gamble, already do. Have you evern been to a gas station at 7 am trying to get gas? You stand in line behind those buying their 40s, smokes and lottery tix. Then they come back after the midday drawing, to get their evening beer, smokes and lottery tix. As far as the tax rate goes, lets remember econ 101... 30 pct of anything is more than 0 pct of nothing.

@ Angler - We have had the Dems in charge for years now, and look where we are. Lets not assign blame and use party lines to divide.. Lets just say "Hopefully the new blood will spurn new ideas" and leave the party attacks to the side. No one wins in an "Us vs Them" mentality.

When casinos opens in Ohio it’s a sure bet that they will be operating like amusement parks with no safety belts or cages on their rides? Every thing Ohioans will be addressing from now and even when your casinos open, we’ve been addressing here in Pennsylvania since our gaming law passed. From location, to ownership, but nobody ever addresses the casinos everyday operations that lets them destroys individuals and families. Think about it, does it really matter where they build them, if it’s not in your backyard it’s going to be in someone else’s. And who cares who owns these joints? They could be owned by the Mafia, Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis, Al-Kida or even the Catholic Church, what’s the difference, it’s still the same SCAM that is FLEECING and BREEDING Americans into compulsive casino gamblers who will eventually become criminals. Here are a few of the tools that legislators throughout our country have given casino operators to seduce their prey, 24/7 gambling, Free booze, Check cashing, Smoking areas inside, Interest Free Credit and those so-called freebees known as Comps that make many justify their losses. Can you think of any other industry in our country that operates in the same fashion?

To learn more about the real ill effects of casino gambling go on line and look up Bill Kearney on casino gambling.

I AM SAVING EVERY DOLLAR I MAKE UNTIL THE CASINO IS OPEN THEN I AM GOING TO GAMBLE IT ALL AND WIN BIG!!!!!!! YES!!!!!

Free booze. That's what I'm talkin' bout. Woohoo!!!

I voted for the the casino BUT one thing is that when the lottery came to town there were people proclaiming that all the school problems will be solved if we just allow the lottery. Years later the schools are still a mess. What is said and what actually happens are two totally different things. I do not see the streets of PA or WV paved in gold. I am hoping that people do not put too much stock in everything that was promised.

There is hope for Ohio after all.

Anyone who thinks gambling is going to ruin this state is a complete fool. Take a look around. People in Ohio are gambling now. They are playing the lottery. They are playing keno. They are playing bingo. They are betting on horses. And they are traveling to other states to visit casinos.

We finally got smart enough to realize that we should be keeping the casino gamblers in Ohio.

Hope all the pro-casino folks are right. Good "luck" to all of us! :)

On behalf of mental health, addictions, and consumer credit counselors, police officers, prison guards, suicide hotline and domestic violence shelter workers, emergency room workers, I say "Thank You!" to the voters of Ohio who have given us all "job security" until the Second Coming by foolishly approving casinos. Well, at least they so far will be limited to Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, and Toledo. That will allow sane and sober people with families to protect some time to sell their homes and move to counties which will not have this scourge in their midst.

We'll see what happens..obviously it's not going to produce what they said it was, it never does and never will, but hopefully it provides jobs and gives ppl something to do after the game.
Gambling is a personal decision that each of us will make, and if it ruins you it's your own fault. Casinos are required to provide resources for people with addictions.
I just wish it was not 4 casino's...that's way too many for a state so close to other states with casino's. There should be 1, maybe 2 at opposite ends of the state...4 is overkill.

Why does it seem like people assume that only those who gamble have problems? I've been up to Windsor. I save a certain amount of money that I take with me. When it is gone, it is gone. If I win then cool, if I don't then cool. I walk away after the fact. It does not destroy me, my family, and even somehow I still manage to pay my bills. I only go once a year with friends. We drink, gamble a little, have some fun... then we go home at the end of the weekend. I know I'm not alone either.

The issue I had with this and still have is that it was making a gambling monopoly for 2 companies. Congrats Ohio, you gave 2 companies complete control over an industry in Ohio. Either make it legal for ANY company or person to open a casino or not at all. Making a constitutional amendment that only allows 2 companies to have casinos is just a quick sidestep from the monopoly legislation that is federal law. Don't be surprised if you see a lawsuit on this going to the Supreme Court. Double post apology.

The issue I had with this and still have is that it was making a gambling monopoly for 2 companies. Congrats Ohio, you gave 2 companies complete control over an industry in Ohio. Either make it legal for ANY company or person to open a casino or not at all. Making a constitutional amendment that only allows 2 companies to have casinos is just a quick sidestep from the monopoly legislation that is federal law. Don't be surprised if you see a lawsuit on this going to the Supreme Court. Double post apology.

A gamblers money has no home!!!

What a shame. What a sad thing that people throw their money away like this.

More people happy about short-term fixes and not looking past 5 years of their life. Terrible. Ohio's island of morality is slowly going down the toilet with the rest of the country. Thanks shortsighted young'ens.

I for one am happy this passed.. my retired parents like to visit casinos in West Virginia 3 or 4 times a year and now they will be able to play in their state. Their home and car is paid off, all bills paid, and I am happy after all the sacrifices they made to raise my sisters and I, they have something fun to do together that they both enjoy.

Hate to sound callous, but if people have a gambling addiction, it's their problem just like any addiction. People can go into poverty by frequenting bars too but I don't see many people wanting a dry state.

@Emily

You are completely right. I go to Mountaineer every few months or so with some friends. I take enough money to entertain me for the day, and if I take nothing home, so be it. The issue is personal responsibility, and it goes beyond gambling.

OK GOODYEAR HERE'S YOUR CHANCE, FLATTEN ROLLING ACRES...BUILD THE GOODYEAR 500 NASCAR RACEWAY...AND PUT ALL THE CASINOS, HOTELS, AND RESTAURANTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OR ROMIG RD.....YOU HAVE I76 AND I77 RIGHT THERE....BRING AKRON BACK. "RIGHT"

@ ISaidSo - EXACTLY! the state lottery is doing nothing for our school system!

Too bad this Amendment prevents all local charities from any kind of game of chance, other than Bingo. No more Monte Carlo nights. Reverse Raffles and 50 50 drawings are also in doubt, as they are games of chance. I'm sure this was not the intention of the voters. Hopefully this language gets removed and nonprofit groups can continue their good work!

Retired Post:You don't like gambling in this State. I dont understand people who oppose it.I have a question for you.What is Mega millions,Ohio lottery,Horse racing,Bingo,Scratch offs.You mean all this is not legally?

I am glad to see Ohio is finally catching up,And out of the dark ages.

Wow I actually voted for somthing that passed yeah!!!

Glad it passed, maybe the politicians in this state will learn that passing contrived bills written by PAC's is bad and that our 'leaders' should have done their job of leading.

That and well, a drive to Cleveland is much less expensive than a flight to Vegas.

I remember a few years back when Detroit, seeing how well the casinos were doing in Windsor, decided to build a casino too, so that they could keep the gambling money in Detroit instead of letting it go to Canada. Anyone think that Detroit's casino has done wonders for that city? People who believe that casinos will bring all sorts of economic benefits and revitalize the state are living in a dream world. And people who claim that gambling addiction is not a problems that we should worry about clearly know nothing about addiction or sociology. It's very nice to know that some people can limit their gambling to the money they bring with them; it should go without saying, however, that this means those people have X amount of money they can afford to blow on nothing. When one is in economic hardship, however, the idea of the big quick payoff through gambling is very tempting, however much it's also a pie-in-the-sky idea. When a person is desperate, they're often willing to try anything that has even a remote chance of getting them out of the hole. Hence, the idea of trying "just once more--this time, I'll win" which is exactly how gambling operations portray themselves. I'm not against casinos on moral grounds--Heaven knows I've bought my share of lottery tickets, for example. But those who insist on seeing them as only benign or beneficial are blinding themselves to some real potential problems. I hope that casinos will not cause as much trouble as I can forsee, but I'm not optimistic, given their track record elsewhere.

Again, it all comes down to personal accountability. My husband and I have had our share of hard financial times and not once did I think, "Hmm... instead of buying milk with this 2 dollars, I'll play 2 lotto tickets." People with that mindset need help before they even step INTO the casino. But I guess everyone has to have a scapegoat.

Yet again, Ohio gets screwed.


Will casinos help? Absolutely.

But we could have done WAY, WAY better than the deal we just got. We never should have picked who would own the casinos BEFORE we approved the law. A first year business/law student could tell you that (hell, my 10 year old nephew could tell you that).


You pass a law allowing it THEN open up for BIDS!!!

Ohio has the 4th highest casino tax rate.....we easily could of had the highest. Way to go Ohio, screwing your people again with your shortsightedness. AWESOME.


I could care less if there are casinos in Ohio, but we look extremely stupid for not getting a heck of a lot more out of this. Bad business on Ohio's end....I'm ashamed to call myself an Ohioian today.....

Kimmi:

Yes, Kimmi, I understand your narrow-minded view in respect to social problems. Unfortunately, we all pay for the ills of society, not just the people with personal accountability issues. Now we'll have it right in our backyard. Congrats.

people don't care about how much Ohio got out of the deal, all they care about is what will affect them..it is a very bad deal for Ohio. You just gave 2 groups exclusive rights to casino's in our state at a steep discount. It's like you opening a business and paying half to start it, while having no competition.
For Penn and Gilbert they literally just struck gold..for Ohio some jobs, and some money, but a bad deal.

Yes nmaxxs, we all pay for the ills of society... one of those ills is placing blame on anyone or thing else that we can rather than looking in the mirror. I take it from your avatar you aren't a supporter of Obama... isn't banning gambling another example of the nanny state that conservatives are so against?

about time ohio should have done this years ago.

we gambled when electing obama and lost. obama gambled with our tax dollars on a stimulus program and lost.

at least we have a fair chance in the casino.

I think that Issue 3 was a bad idea and am disappointed that it passed. Now that it has, I hope all the good things the proponents claim will happen actually do occur and hope that all the bad things I believe will occur do not.

kimmi - "I take it from your avatar you aren't a supporter of Obama"

You missed that one. nmaxxs is so in love with obama and all he does it is scary.

ROFL, did I? It looked like one of the many avatars floating around the net that is against him... Sorry about that, when I'm wrong I'm wrong! xD

Kimmi:

I voted against Issue 3, so this is one social ill I won't be blaming myself for.

And you won't be seeing me fork over my hard earned money to enhance the riches of the few. My what suckers Ohioans are.

You won't see me forking over my money either, my point is that those that do want to gamble should have the right and not have to take their hard earned money to other states.

Have a good day, my stay-cation is halfway over and I'm getting out of the house today, lol.

Yeah, whatever.

Let's all meet back here in a few years and compare scars.

I'm sure everyone will wonder how something this stoooopid got written into our state constitution.

Early this morning, the ABJ falsely reported that the casino issue failed 2 to 1.

The voters made it clear last November that they don't care what they vote for.

the citizens of Ohio voted for issue 3. So whatever happens, happens!!!!

I THINK IT'S GREAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE ONES ON WELFARE COULD WORK AND I WOULDN'T HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM.I ALSO THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE A P-TEST TO GET A JOB I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE A P-TEST TO GET WELFARE, IT SHOULD BE A LAW FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE TO TAKE A P-TEST FOR A JOB AND TO GET WELFARE.OF COURSE IF YOU HAVE A RECORD WITH THE LAW NOTHING FOR YOU. OF COURSE I WOULD BE AFRAID TO GO TO CLEVELAND UNLESS THEY HAVE SECURITY IN THE PARKING LOT THAT WOULD WALK YOU TO YOUR CAR. IF NOT I WILL JUST KEEP GOING TO WEST VIRGINA.I WOULDN'T WALK OUT ALONE IN CLEVELAND..I'M TIRED PAYING TAXES FOR WELFARE I DON'T MINE PAYING FOR THE ONES WHO REALLY NEED IT BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DON'T GET IT.BECAUSE THEY ARE HONTEST.I WOULD MAKE EVERYONE TAKE A P=TEST AND I THINK THE ONES ON WELFARE SHOULD NOT GET A NOTICE OF A P-TEST JUST SURPRISE THEM NO PAST NO WELFARE. THEY NEED TO WORK FOR THERE WELFARE WORK AND GET WELFARE JUST DON'T SIT AT HOME AND COLLECT! WASH DISHES IN A RESTURANT OR PICK UP TRASH IN THE STREETS WORK FOR YOUR FOOD AND MONEY..BUT I THINK IT IS GREAT FOR THE CASINO.JUST LEARN HOW MUCH YOU CAN SPEND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR YOU..BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS. IF YOU KNOW HOW..GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL..SOME NEED TO GET A JOB AND A LIFE....ENJOY

nottheusual1 - We will also be wondering how someone so corrupt and inept was elected president in 2008.

I know I screwed up also. Now I will work to correct that problem and elect the GOP the party of the people.

I HATE TO TELL YOU BUT THE BOOZE IN WEST VIRGINA IS NOT FREE ONLY SODAS ARE FREE AND THEN YOU TIP THE WAITRESS.ONLY VEGAS AND ATLANTA BOOZE ID FREE. YOU REALLY DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO LET YOU GET FREE BOOZE IN THE CASINOS IN OHIO...I DON'T THINK SO BUT I COULD ALWAYS BE WRONG I'M NOT PERFECT..I WORK FOR A LIVING..................AND ALWAYS HAVE...

@Tangent and all the others who are SO going overboard with your negative thinking,,,why did you put "families lose"..Lose what? How bout making more of a point when your whining..These so called loser families you all are talking about,are you doing anything to help them out now?Or is it they are just going to go bad,cuz a casino will be built here?They dont gamble or anything now then?Give me a big break.
This is great for Ohio.Its time we join the ranks of the other states that have welcomed in the 21st century..
If you dont gamble dont go..Simple!

@UseCommonSense,
LOL@the free beer...I know in Vegas and Atlantic City as long as your gambling,or sitting at a table,all alcoholic an non alcoholic drinks are free..Ive noticed if you tip the waitress 5 bucks first go around ya never wait :-)

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE ONE ABOUT ROLLING ACRES THAT'S A GOOD PLACE...THE BUILDING IS THERE. BUT I'M SORRY I WOULD WANT THE SECURITY DEFINATELY THERE..I'M AFRAID TO GO THERE AT NIGHT I WILL GO THER IN THE DAY TIME TO PENNYS BUT THAT IS IT..IT REALLY USE TO BE A NICE PLACE TO GO WITH SOME NICE PLACES BUT NOT NOW...

I am glad it passed - i was betting on it!

@retired: "I also believe any county that did not support Issue 3 should not benefit from any of the revenues received from them!"

Gotta love the clear-minded thinking of an old curmudgeon. Yep, retribution over pragmatism works every time.

Strippers AND Black Jack. You can BET on it.......

@Deidre,,LOL!!!

Look out below! The pits of H E double hockey sticks will soon open and swallow Ohio! Prostitution will be the only career choice for women! Gimme a break, get off your high horses...THIS IS GOOD!!!

SargeM,

Sorry you are wrong, nothing in the constitutional ammendment gives control of the casinos to two specific companies. Nor does it give complete control of the casino operations to the companies running the casinos. That was just more BS from the opponents of the issue. And who were those fine people? None other than the owners of the biggest and nearest casino to our area, Mountaineer in WV. Yeah, they were looking out for the people of Ohio, sure.

Will it be all roses and sugar like the pro-casino people said? Probably not, but neither will it be like all the other unfounded claims and scare tactics of the opponents. Nice 11th hour ply trying to implicate Dan Gilbert as some big criminal in the underground gambling community.

@kimmi: you and I wont "fork" over our money, but you know some people will use a pitchfork to hand over their money.

@Socialist IN Charge said:"The voters made it clear last November that they don't care what they vote for."

Yeah - I thought the number of people who could vote for a ticket with Sarah Palin on it was very indicative of that, too.

@Steve:

Ownership of the casinos is based on who owns the property they sit on.

However, that owner doesn't have to run the casino. That part can be farmed out.

What a business model.

Steve is actually the only person commenting on this story that has any common sense at all: if you looks at the other states/communities that have allowed casinos, none of the disastrous, pending consequences has happened -- over what is now decades. The high end of the proponents' wild campaign promises, as well, have not completely come to fruition, either. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

But you people are so polarized because you believe only what you want to believe and do no research for yourselves; you'd rather spout off and look like you are intelligent and knowledgeable -- when most of you can't even spell or put a proper sentence together! You'd rather argue and bicker than do the hard work and help make things work!

Opinion is a fine thing to have, and a beautiful right to express -- but that doesn't mean that you don't have to work to have one!

samhall and others obviously didn't read the constitutional ammendment that was voted on (it was printed on the ballot). It says nothing about prohibiting non-profits from having Monte Carlo nights, 50-50 or reverse raffles. It also doesn't award the casinos to pre-determines companies without any bidding process. Don't believe me? Read it here. And if you don't agree, please provide some evidence to your point not just "I heard" Because what you heard was twisted facts and outright lies from the opponents, you know the ones who were protecting their own gambling interests in WV.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/upload/ballotboard/2009/3-final_language.pdf

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/upload/ballotboard/2009/3-text.pdf

You all can complian about this and make it sound so bad, but let's face it. Those who want to gamble before today were going to gamble, just in a different state. Now that money, which would have been spent in another state, will now be spent in Ohio. I don't care what the tax rate is, but whatever it is, at least that tax money is now going to stay in Ohio and benefit the people of Ohio, not the people of West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Ontario, Canada. Those jobs created are now in Ohio. Jobs mean an increase in tax base for those communities over and above the taxes collected from wagering. Just Economics 101.

And those who opposed the issue, MTR gaming, is owned by Jeff Jacobs. The same Jacobs family that owned the Cleveland Indians. Son of Dick Jacobs Seems like his heart wasn't in Ohio. He fought it all the way.

Dan Gilbert is an ultra-successful businessman. We all know how he built the Cavaliers. I doubt many businessmen could tackle a project this big. But, as successful as he is, I have faith he will pull this off.

In my opinion, we owe Dan Gilbert a a big "thanks" for stepping up and putting this together. It will create jobs and help to jump start the economy in Ohio.

I just wanna play the Penny Slots and nothing else cause im not a gambler ,and as long as I am gambling I get free drinks and make the old Hags nervous by standing close to there Money Bucket

Its nice that the Issue 3 passed.. Now I want to know what the payout will be on the slots.. If they make it as tight as I have seen in some other casinos the profits will quickly diminish. They should be mandated to be no less than 95 percent payout.. Even at that rate , the casinos will rake in the money and people will have a fun time.

I also hope they don't build the Cleveland casino downtown, if they do, I'll keep going to casinos elsewhere that are off the main highway and away from the downtown traffic headaches.

I think they should put it where the Brown's stadium is...they're not using it for anything!

@ Kearney:

24/7 gambling, Free booze, Check cashing, Smoking areas inside, Interest Free Credit and those so-called freebees known as Comps

I hope they use the PA casinos as examples. Those perks would be great! Loosen up and have a little fun people!

@S said:"We will also be wondering how someone so corrupt and inept was elected president in 2008."

An obvious typo - that should have been "in 2000".

I bet they find out it's the result of some obscure compound in coal-fired power plant emissions.

@S said:"the party of the people"

I believe that Mao and Lenin own the copyrights on that one.

You guys don't license anything, do you.

Steve

I believe it is you who didn't read what was in the Amendment.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/upload/ballotboard/2009/3-official_argument_against.pdf

Here is one you listed:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/upload/ballotboard/2009/3-text.pdf

Text from page 9
"Notwithstanding the aforementioned definition, "casino gaming" does not include bingo, as authorized in article XV. section 6 of the Ohio Constitution and conducted as af January I. 2009, or horse racing where the pari-mutuel system of wagering is conducted. as authorized under the laws Ohio as of January 1. 2009."

Page 10 states:
"Provisions of this section 6(C) shall have no effect upon activities authorized under sections 6(A) and/or 6(B) of this article.

6(A) is in regards to the lottery and 6(B) states "The General Assembly may authorize and regulate the operation of bingo to be conducted by
charitable organizations for charitable purposes."

Short version: Charities can run Bingo or Night at the Races. Everything else is now illegal.

Wow. Just think.

In 2012 we'll have a casino in Cleveland.

And I thought going to Detroit was a holiday!!

(Pssst - do you think Youngstown's feeling were hurt?)

Also, for those of you who think a) free drinks: Ohio law forbids an establishment from providing free or otherwise complimentary alcoholic beverages of any kind at ay time; and 2) indoor smoking: Ohio law forbids smoking indoors in *any* building occupied by the general public -- and that includes a casino. Neither of these issues was addressed in Issue 3.

Dream on.

Have all of you opposed of the idea of casinos in Ohio ever really thought about it? To build the casinos will require contractors, plumbers, electricians, drywallers, cement workers, landscapers and on and on. This means jobs for Ohio workers! Entertainers performing in those casinos will have to pay local taxes on the money they earn while performing in Ohio. The casinos will need maids, waitresses, cooks, secretaries, servers, janitors, etc. More jobs for Ohio workers! I see it as a win-win situation for all of us in this state! More money for schools!

Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, God, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce.
Demands: Every corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost; in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; Of gamblers LOSES; casinos use to pay taxes; Pay law enforcement officers wages; Pay livestock Commissioners wages, pension, and healthcare; and enable consumers; to pay for the more stock dividends (money); Hillaries, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers); market quarterly; in the wholesale and retail price of food and fiber produced in foreign countries; and market quarterly; in the wholesale and retail price; of EVERY product and service Human Beings use for life. And Government needs to build, maintain, and operate schools; infrastructure; and provide government services; and national security. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages or independent business profit.
This defiance; of realities demands; Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools, infrastructure, and etc. IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children LIFE UNAFFORDABLE; and already created the $40 trillion social security and the $9.3 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. Then pay the debt with the $7.30 per hour government mandated labor wage.
There is no reason to believe America’s grandchildren’s children; can afford life; and pay this debt; with the $7.30 per hour; government mandated labor wage; in a hundred million years; with money derived from wages or independent business profit!

YAY!!!!!!!

YAY!!!!!!!!!!

@Retired:

Just what we need - more $8 buck part-time jobs with no benefits and no future.

Just more plain vanilla j-o-b-s.

And - they are building casinos, not destination resorts.

What a hoot ...

MR PUGGSLY,
GOOD LUCK....I HOPE YOU WIN BIG
I"LL SEND YOU MY ADDRESS...L.O.L

Finally, we will get casinos here. For those of you who think the jobs will be $8 an hour, don't you realize that casinos need gaming managers, hotel managers, chefs, restaurant managers, hair and spa employees, accountants, purchasing specialists, marketing managers, communication and public relations people, etc.? Those aren't $8 an hour jobs. Besides, if you look at many of the jobs that are posted online, all you see are office jobs that start at the same thing -- $8 -- and they want you to have a degree and experience. I swear all we have around here are customer service and telemarketing jobs. And you don't see a problem with that????

some of you need to relax, take a deep breathe and quit worrying yourself sick about how others spend their money and focus on your OWN financial problems, c'mon ohio is not the perfect state
stop premedatating what you dont know, we already have the serial killer from cleveland, robberies everywhere, shootings, crime,etc. and your worried about the casinos, and by the way West Virginia
(where mountianeer gambling is) has way less crime
problems then ohio. so stop blaming casinos for bringing on trouble. "GOOD LUCK GAMBLERS"

nottheusual1: Guess what, no one's forcing you to go to them! And, they will employ a lot of college kids as well who would love to work there and even earn minimum wage. Better than slapping burgers at MickyD's. Bet you spend more than they would earn on beer alone!

Ok pro-casino folks...you got your wish. As usual, this state does everything backarsewards. Don't you think it would have been wise to approve gaming, and then assemble a gaming commission? Of course not, this is Ohio. We don't think past tomorrow. We just hear "34,000 jobs" and lose our collective mind. We will be lucky if we net 10,000 permanent jobs out of this-most of which will be part-time because we don't have the demographics to support this undertaking. Thanks for proving once again Ohioans are a bunch of simpletons.

Now that this passed I guess my home game might be in jeopardy. So, from now on I'm going to have to charge my buddies $4.00 for a beer, $2.50 for pretzels, and $3.00 for a hot dog. Also I'll get my wife to be the waitress so she can get some of the big buck tips.( I wonder if I can get a brass pole into my basement?) Good luck and see you in Cleveland in about two years. You'll be able to find me. I'll be the guy having some fun watching my wife having fun on the slots.

issue 3 passed that's it, if you do not like gambleing do not go to the casinos there that problem is solved now move on.

Isn't that what just happened? Ohio voters approved gaming and now they will assemble a gaming commission. Building these 4 casinos will put a lot of Ohio people to work for the next two years. Isn't that much better than having them on unemployment benefits? Good grief, sometimes I wonder if some of these people should even be allowed to vote!

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Ah come on!! We have Atlantic City in New Jersey, high unemployment,and the highest property taxes in the country. And some of you are complaining about casinos. Go figure. I'm confused....wait, maybe I'm not!!!

Ohio needs jobs, you get more people working and we just might decrease crime you have grown people working in fast food joints , these jobs were taken away from teenagers, maybe this will be good lets wait and find out , oh by the way i gamble in new york, pennsylvania, west virginia, mississippi and detroit, its something to do when you go on vacation, lets face it ohio is a boring state.

The same Old Conservatives against the Casino's, saying it causes Prostitution, and Suicide,are sitting in the Instant Bingo Halls, or at the bar playing keeno all the time..Hypocrites..You ever drive down Arlington Street..There's prostitution no matter what..OHIO needs money, this is the best thing that could have happened..All of us no someone that drives to Michigan, or West Virginia twice a year to go blow money, now the other states can drive to Ohio...THIS IS GREATTTT>>

Good for Ohio...it's about time we spend money here in our own state rather than somewhere else!

You know what GREAT site could have been turned into a great casino?

The Richfield Coliseum. Easy come, easy go I guess.

I want to know why no one is commenting on the State of Ohio passing a referendum to allow politicians (incumbents only, of course) to send out bribes to veterans for their votes? As a vet of this period, I would be more than reluctant to accept such a check. If I DID accept it, I think I would have to just relay it to another candidate who is determined to see fewer American veterans coming home in coffins, and without limbs from fighting other nation's wars for them.

I agree rolling acres would be make a perfect casino

@yankeescot

Give me a break. All you bible-thumping hypocrites will follow anything. Jobs & money is what this state needs. Even if it was to build a bridge from Cleveland to Canada, as long as it puts some people to work, I am all for it.

I am tired of paying for a state miss-managed school system. The courts have found the State of Ohio guilty of not supporting the schools FOUR times, but our old buddy Bob Taft said don't go forward on prosecuting that one. I am tired of supporting anything with my tax money that shouldn't be supported.

Let's face it, those of you who were against the gambling issue, get over it. You lost! Go find something else to support. Quit whining!

Thank you City of Green voters for passing the renewal levy. There is still a budget short-fall, so we'll see how Superintendent Nutter and the Board resolve it. The City of Green received $250,000 from the stimilus and can use it however they like. Mayor Norton wants to use that money to build a Veteran's Memorial in Green. I am in favor of honoring and supporting our Veterans, but Mayor Norton may have a hidden agenda with wanting this Memorial now. Mayor Norton will not make any decisions that are considered controversial because it would hurt his chances for re-election and all of his decisions are based on getting himself re-elected. The City of Green has the $250,000 stimulus money now and the Green Local School District needs that $250,000 NOW. Mayor Norton could organize a Veterans Memorial committee and that committee would be responsible for raising the funds necessary to build a Veteran's Memorial. Mayor Norton wants to take credit for actually doing something before the next Mayor's election. It is mind baffling that Mayor Norton (along with the City of Green Administration) is fully aware that Green Schools NEEDS that $250,000 and isn't giving it up to the schools. This clearly shows his hidden agenda and his lack of supporting Green Local Schools. Mayor Norton's term is up in 2012, you can see his profile needs something added to the year 2010 www.cityofgreen.org. Mayor Norton also hired Valerie Wolford, Communications Coordinator, to "handle" press releases and a newsletter for the City. Her press releases and newsletters have numerous grammar errors and misspelled names. Ms. Wolford has been paid over $80k so far for doing virtually nothing. Her duties were effectively handled previously by current staff and it didn't cost the City anything additional!
If you are as outraged with Mayor Norton's hidden agenda, please email him at mayor@cityofgreen.org or call him at 330-896-6601 and voice your outrage!

@ Get a grip

Bible thumper? Hardly. Re-read my post-I was talking about thinking things through-which few people in this state seem to do a regular basis.

My entire beef was that we needed to do it right if we were going to do it. Who are we to think we will succeed when Atlantic City is struggling? They are drawing people from NYC & Philly & they still struggle. Donald Trump had to turn over control of the Taj Mahal in order to keep just a portion of it. So if the Donald can't make a go of it, a mortgage broker (Dan Gilbert) is going to? LMFAO! Y'all got played & you aren't even smart enough to realize it.

Re-vote no ballots available for registered voters

I hear a politician wants 60% of the profits from the casinos to go to Ohio. That should force them to build in a different state where the tax rate is lower. This guy is a genius!

@yankeescot.
Wow are you a defeatist..Are you saying were losers in Ohio and not to even bother trying cuz of whats happening to Donald Trump??
If you live your life that way and are afraid to try anything new I feel sorry for you..Oh I have a headache,cant take tylenol ,it was laced years ago,so Ill just suffer with my headache.ETC ETC ETC

For those that are dismissive of the jobs, raise your hand if you even know anyone out of work that can't find a job. And I don't mean the out-of-work consultant who won't take a lower-paying industry job.

@Nottheusual1,
You stated,


Just what we need - more $8 buck part-time jobs with no benefits and no future.

Just more plain vanilla j-o-b-s.

And - they are building casinos, not destination resorts.

What a hoot ...
Im guessing the ones(my son included)looking for a job, would jump at the chance to get into one of your so called "Vanilla Jobs"!!!

Like I said on an earlier post; New Jersey has Atlantic City, very high unemployment, and the highest property taxes in the country! Please don't expect casinos to be your save-all. Here, the casinos all have buses that shuttle people from low income neighborhoods to AC daily. The people who least can afford it are targeted, like with lottery machines, with that famous saying;"a dollar and a dream".

I dont think anyone here in Ohio are expecting them to be our save all.

peebs02

Not defeatist-realistic. We do not have enough people to fill the casinos on a regular basis, period. There are just too many examples of these casinos promising much & delivering next to nothing. (Louisiana & NJ)

It is all a moot point now anyway-I just hope I'm wrong.

Well hopefully these casinos will prove to be worthwhile to go to,and the people will continue to come,if not they dont.Trust me I know.You lose enough somewhere you stop going there.
I truly hope this works out for Ohio:-)

Yes!!! Yes!!!
Finally, we can “spend and win”
Our own money in OHIO!!!
“Stay and Play”
In…..OHIO …Cha Ching.....It's about time!!!!

Nottheusual1

Good point on ownership of the casinos being baesd on the properties. I didn't realize that until reading the full ammendment page that had that info and giving it some thought.

Samhall,
Sorry I'm going to have to disagree with your interpretation of the minutia there. It doesn't outlaw anything that is currently being done. Maybe all those Monte Carlo nights and other "gambling based" fund raisers are already illegal. The specifically mentioned bingo so that it would remain legal and separate from casino gambling. Those night at the races do not count as the horse racing, that is for the horse race tracks.

To those that say the jobs are low paying and vanilla, watch the thousands who show up to apply. Every week I see stories about job openings (some only short term seasonal stuff like recent openings for performers at haunted houses) and the number of people who show up to apply is many times the number of jobs available. Do you think that jobs that don't pay $50,000 or more are worthless to everybody? Ask those who are out of work.

As far as the economic impact, and whether the casinos are succeeding (the NJ guy who keeps reminding us about Atlantic City) there is no proof that happens here. The casinos will be built employeey many people. Then they will open and be in business employing more people. If they don't make the profits as expected they may lay off some people or eventually close. But what about all those jobs for period before that? I guess you think they're worthless since they are not gauranteed for life (because there are so many of those great jobs).

Nobody said this will be a cure to all the problems. But new jobs will be created. Money spent out of state by ohio residents will stay here. Tax revenue will be generated. Those are all good things.

POT---the real problem solver

Ohio has had after hour joints for years. If the people want something, then by God give it to them. This is part of being a free society.