Suddenly I should care about what this washed up ex-felon has to say?

JAMAL Do what your coach does B.S. for as long as you can and collect your pay. Up until now you have been great at it.

There you have it, Mangini apologists. A view from the inside. Still like "your guy?" Still think the players are "playing for him?" What kind of delusional world are you living in?

Lewis also highlights something that most fans seem oblivious to: the notion that veteran players are brought in to "mentor" or "guide" the younger guys. How absurd. Like Lewis says, he's OLDER and has his OWN job to concentrate on. The vets aren't babysitters, and sure don't wanna help younger guys who want THEIR jobs. Sheesh.

Long story short: Lewis is going, Mangini needs to follow him right out the door.

Sounds like it's time for Jamal to get an early retirement. If you aren't producing, your leash gets shorter.

I guess if that soft method hadn't produced what the Crennel regime produced, maybe his argument would carry some weight. I just tend to think that he likes the rigor (or lack thereof) of Billick & Crennel and is speaking for Jamal, not for the team.

Lewis is not the team player that I thought he was. He might as well pack his bags right now. He says that he is doing his job, but I doubt it.

How many felons are there in the NFL?

rmk/akron

Boo hoo, boo hoo, the poor clowns fans are angry. There's goes someone else telling the truth.

Yawn.

Cut Jamal now, he is a bad apple and can spoil the entire bushel of apples if he is that open with his differences with the coach. Now we know why he averages .9 yards per carry, he has given up. Oh yeah, Jamal a winning season is a weak goal, making it to the Superbowl or at least the playoffs is the real goal. Don't let the door hit you in the back on the way out (practice is too hard) crybaby.

piccard,

Can you fulfill your need for attention from your family or friends?

Reality Check,

If my guy is pi$$ing off a stutter-stepping RB that gets 3.6 YPC, yes, I am happy. He hasn't done anything since 2007. He should have been cut in Sept.

If that's how he feels, I can deal with that. But to run to the media when your coach is in the building and tells you his door is open is pretty chicken*hit and not a veteran move. Pro football is no different than any workplace. The constant complainers who can't talk to their boss are cancerous and should be removed.

He's saying if they were 7-1 then the way Mangini is working the team would be OK? This is not the truth, this is sour grapes from a washed up running back who was sold a bill of finishing up his career in a country club atmosphere.

@TOJ: I must agree.

Kelby,

4 wins for this Browns would be a good goal. Making it to SuperBowl would be a dream. Even before the season started nobody was picking this team to do much better than 8-8.

I think Jamal said some very interesting things, and it sounds like he is tired of a lot of the BS that is going on within the organization. While he is not a great player, and is far from his prime he was still good enough to produce if there was enough talent and effort around him (players, coaches, schemes).

jeez One of my favorite memories is watching Lewis get that late touchdown against Mangini's Jets in NY. Rain, 2nd row endzone seats, son by my side screaming for the browns. Now he is just another negative in a s**t year. Put him in a Ravens jersey and sit him on the bench for the rest of the year. Oh yea and make him practice every week.

What has Mangini done to earn the respect of anyone; the players on his him; his fellow coaches; Randy Lerner; anyone in the media; any of the fans? Can anyone actually argue that any decision he has made has actually made the Browns any better? Lerner made a mistake by hiring Mangini. Lerner should correct that mistake by bringing in someone to run the football decisions about his team; who will in turn hire a head coach with a clue, offensive and defensive coordinators with a plan(system the players can believe in) and make roster changes that actually make the team more competitive.

boo hoo, boo hoo oringinal jason, I know it's tough for you when players vent and tell the truth.
hang in there friend, perhaps someone will come along and candy coat things for you.

At least these types of outbursts help the Clowns season to remain mildly interesting.

Wow! I just had a comment deleted before I could even post it. The ABJ is using The Noodler!

Jamal Lewis' work ethic is WITHOUT QUESTION. So, if he says they are working too hard in practice, and not having enough energy for the game day, then LISTEN.

Should I repeat that? His off-season work is legendary, in the same way that Jerry Rice, and some others', were. If he is saying what the f, then that is something to think about.

Jamal, leave now if you don't like it. This is AMERICA after all, Obama hasn't changed NFL football yet, has he? This is the time to experiment, see what works, doesn't work, and who stays and who goes this next season. The Browns have a opportunity to do a top to bottom accessment, prepare for the draft, and free agency. This can be turned around really fast, "IF" (this is a huge IF) we had the right personnel running the team.

as i look at it..he is going to be giving up some big $$$ to get away....millions??

must be a reason

Jim Brown worked hard,never took a play off.He said you have to be Spartan like,he wouldn't even drink water at camp during the summer heat.The Jets were what;8-2/8-4 before Favre hurt his shoulder when he played for NY.Never heard anyone complain about Mangini's work regimin then.Losers complain,winners earn their paycheck.

The_Original_Jason:

Most front runners, wagoneers frauds that claim to be Browns fans will applaud anyone bashing the team and specially their coach.

This guy is bitter because he knows his role was to develop J. Davis, a rookie studd, to take over his job. He knew he would lose his job sonner rather than later. He is a punk for not going straight to Mangini.

I commend you for beign a loyal, knowledgeable Browns fan

Poster,

When can the Browns hire Jamal Lewis as coach? I always player/coach should expand beyond baseball.

Can any more wheels fall off in Cleveland? Honestly, from what we've seen of his on-field product so far, Mangini is making Crennell look like Tony Dungy. The things Mangini is doing would have so much more credibility if only he'd been able to at least duplicate the win percentage of last season.

CUT HIM! I hear Larry "Grandmammy" Johnson is available.

And this guy is a captain????

This story confirms 2 things: 1) Mangini has no credibility in the lockerroom and 2) Lewis is a crybaby.

The good news is that next year we'll be without both of them.

hank/naples,

Thanks. It's getting frustrating dealing with fellow fans. The same people on here are probably the same ones who cheer when Tim Couch and Derek Anderson got hurt.

This team was 4-12 last year. It seems like no one remembers that. Further, SEVERAL first-year coaches have one win. STL, TB, DET, KC & CLE. Rebuilding sucks, no denying that. But starting a rebuild over again only prolongs the process.

Can anyone dispute what Mangini did in NYC? Look at the Jets roster and count the guys that were drafted or signed by Mangini.

piccard,

My first reply to you still stands.

This puts Mangini in an even worse spot.

The way I see it...he has to release this gum runner today.

He can't allow this kind of thing and still be the "boss," can he?

"you're not going to make no money because the crop ain't no good.''

Wow.

He should have retired a few years ago when he still had the legs. Of course they don't pay enough for him to practice hard, I would let him sit out the rest of the year.

I'll dispute what Mangini did in NY. His winning percentage was at its peak when he took over the team. As more and more of his decisions kept impacting the Jets they started losing more and more. NY pawned off Mangini and all the players that he coveted came with him here. He puts out a terrible product. Note the Browns are 1-7 this and playing poorly. The game against the Bills was abomination of football and neither team deserved a W for their effort but hey both teams cant lose right. After Mangini leaves New York, and brings his decision making here our roster this year is far worse than the team we had last year. The players he brought in from New York to supposedly anchor our team are ineffective. Abe Elam is out of position so often it is nauseating. Barton was moderate at best but can't help anyone from the sidelines. So I will ask again....What has Mangini done that has helped this franchise? He can't motivate players. He can't evaluate talent(Lets be honest if he could evaluate talent he would have picked up players in the draft that could earn playing time if not starting positions on a team that is 1-7). He handpicked his own GM and then threw him under the bus to save his own neck. Mangini is not the guy we should try to prepare for the future with. Im all for attaining some sense of consistancy in the organization. It should start with Lerner hiring a Director of Football operations( or whatever appropiate title he needs), who will pick a GM for us then let those 2 football minds decide if Mangini can be the coach for this team. I can be fairly confident in believing not many people with a good football sense would place any stock in Mangini as a coach.

I'm with you; the original Jason. Jamaal Lewis goes down with an arm tackle and hits the hole so slow that it's closed up before he's done dancing. I never liked him as a running back and he should quit whining and practice harder! You can't blame Mangini for Lewis going to the press to cry. Sit him down now! It's too bad we have to pay him for whining.

Jamaal Lewis has done nothing to help this team. He supposed to be a captain and he's going to run to the press to whine instead of going to the coaches? It's too bad we can't take his salary and give it to Josh Cribbs. I'd make the crybaby get splinters every Sunday, maybe then he can rest. He already rests when he gets the ball. 2 yards and down.

@The Original Jason
The Browns do get to play Detroit, Oakland, and Kansas City. I will be watching those games with great interest this year. Two of those teams are currently as you pointed out also 1 win teams at this point in the season. So maybe its not fair to pass judgement on Mangini yet, but after he plays games against those other first year coaches and their teams which are going through similar restructuring if you will, we will be able to make a better comparison. So lets see how things shake out. I think that the schedule in the second half of the season is not quite as punishing as the schedule in the first half. So if Mangini has done anything right we should be able to see some visible and tangible signs of success; at least against the three teams(Oakland,KC,TB)that are a combined 4-20 so far on the year. You won't be able to paint me surprised when even these franchises in dissaray can make the Browns look bad on the field.

KEEP MANGINA AND QUINN

signed,
The Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals.

old running backs will say anthing thing. hey lerner here that about your coach mangini

hey lerner mangini sucks he got you to fire his best friend he hand picked to be the g.m. and he even sucker you into going over his phone records ? mandummy must watch alot of cops .badboys,badboys,what u going do when mandummy come through.

hey lerner have u heard ushers new song ? ready to sign them papers.

Hey Jamaal, you said you were going to retire after the season. does that have anything to do with you not wanting to "work" during the week. how spoiled are these 1-7 pro athletes. I say good ridence retire NOW. Larry Johnson is ready to play

I have always respected that on some really bad Browns teams Lewis always brings it. The results may be dropping but his effort is always there. I think he came out a spoke his mind. Is that good? Well it depends on which side of the fence your on I guess. He is a veteran Captain and thinks things are being ran poorly to add to his side of the story we are 1-7! The man may have a good point. Mangini is wearing thin on me, BIG TIME!!

A REAL MAN would not do this through the MEDIA.

He would talk to the coach man to man.

A REAL REPORTER wouldn't spend every waking moment trying to bury the coach so that they can get someone in here who talks to the LOCAL MEDIA.

Weak effort again by the ABJ.

At the end of the day, the man wants to win. He could just shut his mouth and cash the check, but that's not good enough for him-he wants to win! Give me 22 guys like that any day. He's been there and there's a reason he was picked as a captain. I think he's saying what he thinks needs to be said.

You have to love this lewis. Convicted drug dealer using growing crops to make a point about his football team. If he could distibute some of his crops maybe they would play better.

Jason/Bird:

Each of your comments are right on !! I've written to several sport editors regarding the fire Mangini personal crusade by their own "sports" (gossip is more like it) colmunists. They are a disgrace, promoting their own vitriol against Mangini.

The clubhouse was a disgrace inherited by Mangini and its obvious he missed the biggest snake of them all in Lewis. There are still a couple left, and trust me , Mangini will get rid of them !!

KEEP THE FAITH. MANGINI WILL MAKE CLEVELAND PROUD!!!

Hooch, heard his crop was done in by an early frost, hence the spewing!

Pleasssse keep Mangina, at least he keeps the team from being middle of the pack.....

jason and hank like Kool-Aid...Go CAVS !!!!!!!!!!

rdkill:

Let me show you who you root for.

Here is Lewis when talking about the Ravens:

""That's who brought me in. That's where I pretty much did all my work. I have a lot of memories there, a lot of memories there—a lot of older players that helped me out and brought me in, led me and showed me the way. That's where I got it from."

Now , he is aked about the Browns, the team that gave him a SECOND chance:

"I'm going to come out here and work the way I work, I want results, I want to be able to go out and right now that's not what's going on. I feel like it's just a waste of time. I know we've got a lot of young players … but I'm not a babysitter. I come here every day to work and get the job done. I'm going to lead more by example," Lewis said

Read the part about turning your back on your Brown team mates.

How do you like them apples?

Waaaahh! He makes us work! 2 - 3 hrs. a day! What a p-u-s-s!

@Thunder31,
You are so correct and finally someone said it! Sucks to be him and have to only work 2 - 3 hrs and make that kind of money! Shut the F up and do what the coach wants or find a new job.

Let's see, Jamal is a team captain, generally stays away from the media and the spotlight. Isn't getting the ball, even if he did the O line is no better than a pee wee line and he's criticizing a head coach no other team in the NFL was ever interested in and who is a master of taking talent and decimating it.

Where's the problem with what Jamal said? You really think he's the only one saying it? He just has nothing to lose since he's retiring at the end of the year. Hopefully Mangini follows him out the door with a pink slip in hand.

Where's the problem with what Jamal said?

How about going outside the chain of command.

If I was your boss..,.I would keep and eye and an ear on you.

That's what it's all about.

Peon VS. management and authority.

It is about time someone shot back at Mangini. Good job Lewis. Keep it up and maybe we will get a real coach in Cleveland!