As a season ticket holder I am ready to retire.

As a season ticket holder, I want my PSL money back.

There are voices out there to listen to who are able to pin point just exactly what is wrong . LOOK AT THIS PREDICTION BY A GOOD FOOTBALL MIND:Esiason says Mangini's environment could stifle Browns' quarterbacks
Sunday, August 30, 2009
By Marla Ridenour, Akron Beacon Journal
NEW YORK -- Former quarterback Boomer Esiason witnessed the second start of Brady Quinn's career last year in Buffalo and still believes the Cleveland Browns' 2007 first-round pick is "the real deal."

But Esiason fears that the "environment of insecurity" created by new Browns coach Eric Mangini will prevent the winner of the quarterback competition between Quinn and Derek Anderson from succeeding in the long run.



Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09242/994252-66.stm#ixzz0Vg0djyJm
IT HAS COME TRUE. Please wise up to who MANGINI really is.

First game I have seen this year. Pathetic. Did the Browns even attempt a pass beyond 10 yards before the middle of the 3rd Quarter? It reminded me of Kosar's rookie year when they wouldn't let him throw the ball and Mack/Byner each had over 1,000 yards. Unfortunately, that was a MUCH better team on the verge of becoming very good. Anderson is not a rookie. What is the issue here??? I live in Chicago and get more Bears news than I need. This was a team in turmoil after last week and was ready to be beaten again. Even a moderate effort by the Browns would have carried the day.

SCHOTTENHEIMER

stleo - I couldn't believe anyone paid those PSL's in the first place. Why?

I blame the owner for hiring Mangini. Mangini did not have a good track record, but was hired anyway. Mangini made the the team practice in the rain, etc, and the fans as well as the media thought is was so funny. Now that the Browns can't win a game, Mangini as well as the fans can have a good time wiping eggs off their faces.

Las Vegas just installed the bye week as a 14 point favorite over the Browns.

the best person mr. learner can hie is Michael George Holmgren (born June 15, 1948 in San Francisco, California) is a professional football coach. He served as the head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 1992 to 1998, the Seattle Seahawks from 1999 to 2008. Prior to his career in the National Football League, Holmgren coached football at the high school and collegiate levels. He is noted for his role in molding quarterbacks such as Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre and Matt Hasselbeck during his tenures in San Francisco, Green Bay and Seattle. Under Holmgren's leadership and play calling the Green Bay Packers were consistent winners; and, he has become known as one of the best coaches in the NFL, leading them to their twelfth league championship in Super Bowl XXXI. Under Holmgren the Seahawks also became a perennial playoff team, including a trip to the franchise's first Super Bowl in 2005.

mike holmgren,tony dungy, they know how to build a football team bill cowher wants tog o to a place where a team is already set !

Nothing more to add but.....WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR.

PS. Vote issue three just in case NEXT YEAR never comes. At least a Casino will give us something to do while we are waiting.

As a die hard football fan. I would not watch these guys if they played in my back yard. Let alone buy a ticket to see them. I would rather watch a pee wee varsity playoff game than the Browns. At least these kids will perform there game planning better than the browns. Plus play for the love of the game not a pay undeserving pay check. And for the last time please fire Paul Warfield worst scouting director in football. Seems he is on the Steelers pay roll. Ray Charles could draft better than him just by listening to the annoucers.

if you sale the team what makes you think things will be better ? all mr. learner needs to do is hire the right people case in point ! Michael George Holmgren (born June 15, 1948 in San Francisco, California) is a professional football coach. He served as the head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 1992 to 1998, the Seattle Seahawks from 1999 to 2008. Prior to his career in the National Football League, Holmgren coached football at the high school and collegiate levels. He is noted for his role in molding quarterbacks such as Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre and Matt Hasselbeck during his tenures in San Francisco, Green Bay and Seattle. Under Holmgren's leadership and play calling the Green Bay Packers were consistent winners; and, he has become known as one of the best coaches in the NFL, leading them to their twelfth league championship in Super Bowl XXXI. Under Holmgren the Seahawks also became a perennial playoff team, including a trip to the franchise's first Super Bowl in 2005.

MaryAnn ... Made them practice in the rain??? Really? They're football players getting paid a lot of money. Don't blame all this on Mangini, people. He hasn't missed a tackle, dropped a pass or thrown an interception.
This team had very little talent at the end of last season and lost a couple talented - but troubled - players along the way in 2009. Holmgren, Dungy, Lombardi ... Nobody could turn around this team in the first eight weeks. Give them some time.
Support the team.
Go Browns

i turned green bay around the seahawks around who is next on my hit list with draft picks !

sad and perplexing to see the internal struggle these men are enduring...who knows why? its almost impossible for mangini to be that bad of a coach, except 1-7 kind of serves as ample evidence...

bill cowher is a manager of teams i am a football coach i have benn in more supper bowls then this fake bummm. bill stay at cbs look at my resume !Michael George Holmgren (born June 15, 1948 in San Francisco, California) is a professional football coach. He served as the head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 1992 to 1998, the Seattle Seahawks from 1999 to 2008. Prior to his career in the National Football League, Holmgren coached football at the high school and collegiate levels. He is noted for his role in molding quarterbacks such as Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre and Matt Hasselbeck during his tenures in San Francisco, Green Bay and Seattle. Under Holmgren's leadership and play calling the Green Bay Packers were consistent winners; and, he has become known as one of the best coaches in the NFL, leading them to their twelfth league championship in Super Bowl XXXI. Under Holmgren the Seahawks also became a perennial playoff team, including a trip to the franchise's first Super Bowl in 2005.

blah,blah,blah, call me lerner.

hey lerner instead of meeting with dui doggg meet with me about turning this sh!@#$% around !

Noodles...I like the Las Vegas post.

hey lener i thought you might want to look at this forget bill cowher.San Francisco 49ers, 1986–1991
Holmgren began his NFL coaching career as an assistant coach of the San Francisco 49ers from 1986 to 1991. He coached the 49ers’ quarterbacks from 1986-1988 under head coach Bill Walsh, working with Joe Montana and Steve Young, who he also coached at BYU. When George Seifert took over as head coach, Holmgren became the team's offensive coordinator and served from 1989 to 1991. During his tenure with San Francisco, the 49ers posted a 71-23-1 (74.7%) regular season record to reach the postseason each year except 1991. San Francisco won Super Bowl XXIII over the Cincinnati Bengals 20-16 and Super Bowl XXIV over the Denver Broncos 55-10, setting records for most points, most offensive points, and margin of victory in a Super Bowl. As offensive coordinator in 1989, Holmgren's 49er offense was ranked number one in the NFL. His years with the 49ers have led to later success mentoring other young assistants and Holmgren is one of the larger branches of the Sid Gillman coaching tree, from which Walsh and Seifert descended.

sorry for the bad spelling lol"

hey lerner ! Green Bay Packers, 1992–1998
Holmgren was head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 1992 to 1998, which became one of the most successful coaching stints in NFL history. As head coach of the Packers, Holmgren posted a 75–37–0 (67.0%) regular-season record, a 9–5 (64.3%) postseason mark, and two Super Bowl appearances, including a 35-21 victory over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXI. By winning at least one game in five consecutive postseasons (1993–1997) Holmgren joined John Madden (1973–1977) as the only coaches in league history to accomplish the feat. Holmgren's Packers posted an NFL-best 48–16 (75.0%) record, finished first in the NFC Central Division three times, second once, and set a 7–3 mark in the playoffs between 1995 and 1998. By taking the Packers to six consecutive postseasons (1993–1998), Holmgren set a franchise record with a team that had had just two winning seasons in the 19 years before he was hired.

Many of Holmgren's 1992 assistant coaches, including Andy Reid, Steve Mariucci, Dick Jauron, Ray Rhodes and Jon Gruden, would go on to head coaching careers in the NFL. Marty Mornhinweg, an assistant hired later in Holmgren's tenure at Green Bay, also became an NFL head coach, but is now the offensive coordinator under Andy Reid with the Philadelphia

eric mangini could not carry my clip board.

hey lerner i still have some years left in me you better act now !

eric you moved down in the draft 4 times just to draft a center ? did you not have other needs ? lb,rb,right tackle,right guard, who owns this team and all of the jets players you got are old and slow !

HEY LERNER CALL ME !

I hear Mike Holmgren MAY be available.

all lines are clear for mr. lerner to call me if he wants to turn this shi!@#$%^& around.

Just got home from work and turned on ESPN hoping there would be good news out of Cleveland about Mangini being fired, but nothing on ESPN,I was hoping, but there's allways 2morrow...

I dont want mike to coach, Director of Football operations, in charge of talent aquisition, with interaction with the fan base and league. Charlie Casserly aslo would be a good pick. He was booted out of Houston for not drafting Vince Young. He was right all along, and his draft picks have grown in to pro bowlers. The Browns can look at the Texans for how to build a team.

charlie casserly is a bummmm ! have the texans won any super bowls with all that talent you just said stay in texas with that crappp !and plus he is not a coach nexttttt !

hey texas browns fan please read.hey lerner ! Green Bay Packers, 1992–1998
Holmgren was head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 1992 to 1998, which became one of the most successful coaching stints in NFL history. As head coach of the Packers, Holmgren posted a 75–37–0 (67.0%) regular-season record, a 9–5 (64.3%) postseason mark, and two Super Bowl appearances, including a 35-21 victory over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXI. By winning at least one game in five consecutive postseasons (1993–1997) Holmgren joined John Madden (1973–1977) as the only coaches in league history to accomplish the feat. Holmgren's Packers posted an NFL-best 48–16 (75.0%) record, finished first in the NFC Central Division three times, second once, and set a 7–3 mark in the playoffs between 1995 and 1998. By taking the Packers to six consecutive postseasons (1993–1998), Holmgren set a franchise record with a team that had had just two winning seasons in the 19 years before he was hired.

Many of Holmgren's 1992 assistant coaches, including Andy Reid, Steve Mariucci, Dick Jauron, Ray Rhodes and Jon Gruden, would go on to head coaching careers in the NFL. Marty Mornhinweg, an assistant hired later in Holmgren's tenure at Green Bay, also became an NFL head coach, but is now the offensive coordinator under Andy Reid with the Philadelphia




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Browns2030,

Give it a rest with your Mike Homgren impersonation bit. Sure he'd be a good coach, but what we really need is either a new owner, or somebody to take over football operations like Parcells did in Miami. (Please don't even try to tell me how Holmgren is better than Parcells.)

I'm taking the second half off as a Browns fan. I'll watch other real NFL teams and root for players on my fantasy football team (no Steelers).

GO CAVS

holmgren and bill parcells know how to build teams. but who is with a team right now and who is not ?

this sounds like a college coach to me ! Browns focus on evaluation, improvement
Zac Jackson, Staff Writer
11.02.2009
The Browns plan to use the bye week for evaluation and improvement - both individually and collectively.

Speaking Monday afternoon, head coach Eric Mangini said he and his staff will analyze every phase of the team this week before deciding on the best way to improve going forward. Mangini said deciding on a starting quarterback would be a part of that process.

Mangini said he'll also open the door to his office to any player who would like an evaluation of his play or the chance to discuss the best way to get further playing time as the season progresses.

"We'll use the bye week as a staff to go through phase by phase, analyze it through the self scout, look at self scout tapes and put together a plan for each day of practice," Mangini said. "We'll emphasize the things we do well, emphasize the things we don't do well and go about making corrections and adjustments."

He said he's always used the bye week to take time with individual players as well.

"It's important to be able to go through, phase by phase, and evaluate," Mangini said. "You're not gameplanning a specific opponent. You're analyzing your team. I've always felt the bye week is a very productive time.

"I'll look at all those things this week. In yesterday's game I think we had opportunities. We turned it over too many times. We didn't play well enough on special teams."

Hey Marla:

I want to know how these two idiots are going to make the Browns win, or a better team, by asking the fans TO STAY AWAY and NOT support their team, infront of a national audience nonetheless !!

What is Lerner supposed to do, go out and buy a brand new team? Brand new coaches? Will this two Idiots think they can guarantee wins?

They are totally mentally and emotionally challenged, and so is the lynch mob media

@Browns 2030,

Take it from a veteran out here on Ohio.com. If you are responsible for about 75% of the posts on a thread, that is NEO's way of telling you to......pound sand!



That article was depressing to read! Talk about an utter loss of hope.

Anyone think the Browns are leavin' town?

We were kickin' it around at work today and OK City came up. Just got a B-ball team and large geographic region. Many would prefer the shorter drive than DAL/DEN/STL. Regardless, all the team would really would have to do is survive for a few years until they are sold off; back to CLE?

I am sure Lerner could use the money for his Aston Villa team. They are suckin' right now!

Go Gunners!

:0)

BRING BACK MODELL. ART WILL CLEAN HOUSE AGAIN.

SAD SAD SAD.

Art moved our team and I don't want him back.

Marty as team president and let him sort this mess out. Let him do the hiring and firing. He has rebuilt 3 teams as a coach. He's a leader AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED...

ha,ha,ha, i am not going anywhere you can not stop me !

The remainder of my 2009 sports budget just went towards Cavs tickets. Utah on the 14th and Chicago on Dec 5th. Woohoo! No cold losses on the lake anymore. I will be eating loaded Nachos, with my sons, from the warmth of the "Q".