Randy, please sell this team in the off season to people who know football and are passionate about football. It is obvious that you have been in over your head since the untimely passing of your father. The team is worth twice the ridiculos amount Al paid for it so you can enjoy the profit. You really don't want this club any more than you want a cold sore. Unfortunatly, that is what your franchise has become, a cold sore.

And once you do, come clean with the meeting on the runway in Baltimore with Art and the Baltimore city officials on YOUR dad's jet. We are owed the truth!

Pat,

I actually agree with pts 3,4,5. The others are steeped in emotional journalism. Further, pts 6 & 10 seem to contradict pt 8. And that's my problem with emotional journalist/fan. You don't even realize you criticize something after calling for it earlier. Romeo was too lenient, Mangini is too tough. Being a contrarian, in itself, is not very compelling.

Here's what the Browns should try the rest of the season .Sit out and let the real pros play.

Here's something to try - winning.

Pat, I usually disagree with you and call you a complete hack. However, on today you and I see almost eye to eye. The only thing I disagree with is the defense. If the D plays like they did against the bears for the majority of the game, they'll be fine on that side of the ball. I think the best way to improve this defense is for the offense to control the clock for a little while.

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I'm surprised it took six posts for a front-runner invasion.


Big7Ben,

I'm conducting a scientific experiment on Steeler fans. Can I ask your reason for rooting for the Steelers while living in Northeast Ohio?

They could try effective tackling instead of bouncing off or tackling the opposing player towards the 1st down marker.

Lots of warm and fuzzy, and not much concrete stuff to go on there Pat. Why not just say

1. Score more points
2. Stop the opponent from scoring so many points

While you may have some good points, changing up the defense drastically isn't needed, they have actually played pretty good on several occassions.

I agree with removing Daboll (or Dumbell as I call him) from the play calling of even the coaching staff altogether.

Also agree with picking a QB and sticking with them. If that is Quinn, fine, let's see what he has.

Hopefully it can do some good, but the next game on Monday night against the Ravens could be ugly, they're going to look to rebound after the loss to the Bengals. Add in the planned protest and a possible blackout (no local TV coverage) and it could be downright embarrassing.

99% agree with P-Mc.

I agree with some of the things Pat , but feel a little apathetic to your "suggestions" that would give you more easy contact with the players . Use some old tricks of the trade to dig up your dirt .

2 & 9 have to do with the defense. I would leave the D alone. Let's see if Ryan can do anything with them. They may lack talent, especially now with injuries, but let's see what Ryan can do with the talent he has.

Ok, try to run the ball.

Not sure about Daboll. How much is Mangini involved? He seems to control everything else.

Which brings us to what seems to be the real problem, Mangini. How do 1 through 10 fix that? Kokinis was his guy. He's gone, supposedly incompetent...but maybe only in infighting. Mangy could not decide on a QB, decided and then benched BQ. Did he really think DA gave us the best chance to win? What did he see? Apparently, these were his draft picks. What impact have they made? Have any of the Jets been that much better than the Browns that were let go? Mack is a starter. Ok. But, can Mangy judge talent? If not, why is he here?

I think the team should all put Mike Holmgren Bobble Heads on their helments for motivation. Better yet Patrick McManamon Booble Heads. Nothing like an original!

I wonder if Mcmanamon would realize the reason why the Defense has been giving up Huge plays, in the last 2 quarters of the game, is because they are on the field for 30 minutes with how bad this offense.

I actually like the fact we have been able to blitz the opposing QB, apart from Green Bay. When the offense is on the field for 30 seconds to a minute, due to sheer ineptitude, your defense no matter how good it is will get tired.

Who the hell is Baboll anyways? Since our brilliant coaching staff cannot figure out how to run an offense or keep a QB on his feet. Why not just build the Defense up and just play the way Tampa Did for the last 4-5 years. The Bucs Offense was a joke, maybe score a touchdown or two (better than us) every now and then. The Defense killed off the opponents Offense. Gee they won the game, was it pretty? hell NO, but it was still a win. Get a REAL football guy to run the team, get a real coaching staff,get as many draft picks that you can. Trade off BQ,JC, JT, (so they can at least have a chance at having great careers) cut all the dead weight that you can, start with Derek Anderson, the rest will follow. The next draft will be the most talent ladden draft in 40 years, pick right, sign undrafted free agents with a few good pick ups on veterans. This can actually start to work in 2 years. PLEASE do something to change this atmosphere, we do not like to lose, or do we like losers. Continue on the same path, you might at well move them out of the city now.

Finally, Pat McWhiner comes out from his cave and figures it out. The Man Genie is not the problem. The past regimes had poor drafts, poor players, and poor discipline. The Man Genie should be given a shot like the Quinnmaster will be getting now. Look at the roster -- how many players would start for another NFL team? The draft can't come soon enough!

The_Original_Jason:

My entire family is from western PA and I have been a Steelers fan my entire life. I live here because of my job. I remember the days when the Steelers weren't that great and i still stuck by em just like the true Browns fans have stuck by that team. But when are you guys gonna say enough is enough? The Browns are nothing more than an expansion team since they came back in 99' and yet Browns fan swear by them? They continue to make the same mistakes year after year. Your team left long ago maybe its time to move on.

Enough is enough! It's time to move on and cheer a proven winner! Go Steelers Go! p.s. Don't forget the Brown-out for this next home game!

So everyone doesn't see the opening kick-off - so what? You won't miss a thing except another disappointment that you even have tickets to watch lousy players!

Here's what the Browns should try the rest of the season : A new QB every week, but don't reveal who it will be til right before the game , so we can scare & confuse the opponent. . .. .It's a process. . .

I was a Steelers fan growing up only because my mom was a huge Browns fan and it keep things fun at home on game days.
Now i play Fantasy Football so i have become more of a "player fan" then "team fan"

Slovensko - LOL!

not to sure about the public parking for the team right now - they may get egged, booed, or beat up by the fans at this point!

Stadium Mustard is Soylent Green!

@jason the browns spy.... been drinking the same KOOL-AID as you Bro...for many years ....i am a Fan(atic) of competent sports even the bad browns competed ie..jim shofners short run or terry r had some teams at least competing.... this LIL Hitler conned randy we see it he sees it time for a change...untill then i will root for a competent team GO CAVS GO Steelers good luck players i say revolt ....HEY HEY HO HO E MISSGENIE GOTTA GO!!!!

Sell The Team

Hey McManamon:

What do you know about fooball? You're the Prince of Gossip in Your "Fire Mangini Daily Column"

You are a fraud as a sports columnist !!!

calm!! down !!!hank !!your gonna drop if your blood pressure keeps rising!!!!!!! remember its called entertainment by the NFL GO CAVS GO Steelers

Yeah, lets' go with a brown out, but still purchase the tickets. I don't even think a squealer fan is that stupid.

Here is a few more hints to make the browns at least interesting 1 get naked cheerleaders their blue skin in Dec could be very intersting.2 put a real football game on the big screen so the 50 or so fans get something to watch.3 set off fireworks every time the browns get a pass picked off that could use up most of the fire works in the upper 48 states and at deafen most of cleveland players so so they can not hear the shower of boos coming at them.4 free tickets to a Cavs each time they fumble.5 flush the whole mess including the owner down the sink and go ice fishing.

"Stadium Mustard is Soylent Green!"

Don't knock it. People put a lot of themselves in that Mustard.

I thought you're doing a pretty good job until you got to nine and 10. You can't totally abandoned the blitz or teams will pick you apart. I like the way the Browns have utilized Mike Adams lately and you have to have a safety or corner blitz once in awhile just to keep that quarterback honest. As for number 10, pretend that the Browns are real NFL team-that kind of talk we don't need. Remember how bad Cincinnati was in the 90s and look at them now. From the management down they were terrible but they stuck with Carson Palmer and the core of the team now they're in first place and I hope they stay there. Go Bengals!

DONT PLAY ANYMORE GAMES THIS YEAR , AS IF THEY PLAYED ANY GAMES AT ALL THIS YEAR. FIRE MANGINI HE WAS A LOSER IN NEW YORK WHY HIRE A LOSING COACH. BRING BACK ART MODELL AND HAVE ART DO THE SAME THING HE DID TO THE CLOWNS AFTER THE 1993 SEASON. MOVE THE BROWNS THE HELL OUT OF HERE AND PUT THEM OVER IN LONDON, THEY WANT A NFL TEAM OVER THERE.

Pat, so now what you are saying is you want Romeo Crennel to coach the team, especially the defense. I've got 10 things you should do to become a journalist instead of a spoiled, whiner but I've expressed most in the past so I won't bore you here.

I agree with everything. Why not?

BIG7BEN,

That's the usual excuse. So cliched. I'm sure I can look through my family tree and find some family in Indy or New Orleans. But then I'd be just like Steeler fan and have no soul, so I choose not to.

The Original Jason,

The exact response I would expect from a bitter Clowns fan.

The Browns suffer from MODELLITIS and may never recover. Not only did he take the team to Baltimore along with Ozzie Newsome but the NFL then saddled them with the worse set-up for expansion ever. Compare them with Carolina and Jacksonville who had perfect set-ups for expansion.The NFL should have given Baltimore one of the above openings in order to make up for the Colts leaving for Indy and we never would have lost our team to Baltimore.Modell, a TV deal expert,was then allowed by the other owners to steal our team. SHAME on MODELL and the NFL.So we lost one of the LEGENDARY teams in NFL history.Will we ever recover ? Probably not.If they ever elect Modell to the Hall of Fame, watch out for a rebellion in my home town of Canton.

When our offense takes the field ...The backfield will likely be Vickers, Lewis, Quinn and a Slot Back...

Vickers and Lewis...How much speed does that give us in the backfield? So as a defense you know we can't go outside...So they Jam the Middle..Lewis has no chance He is not fast enough to go outside and Vickers is no running back to fear..

With all that defense between the tackles...They break people through and it is difficult for the QB to pass...THAT IS A BIG PART OF OUR PROBLEM....

What if we Used Harrison in the Backfield with Lewis and Cribbs at slot back...Then you can go quick tosses to Harrison (Do you really think we can do that with Vickeres) to threaten the ends...you can also run Screens to him and Dump off passes to him.....

Then there is Cribbs in the slot, A better runner then our Wide receivers and Probably faster..You have the quick out pass to him...you have him coming around on a reverse or a hand-off with Lewis and vickers and a pulling guard..With the tight end it could be a heck of a formidable group going at the defense end and line backer and Corner back..

NOW YOU HAVE THREATS OUR SIDE...and things will loosen up for Lewis inside and Harrison's Quickness inside...with a running threat INSIDE and OUTSIDE...YOU start to get receivers open and time to throw to them.......OR

We can continue to run Lewis off Right Guard and then change up and run Lewis off Left Guard..OUR CURRENT OFFENSE..

THE POINT I AM SO POORLY TRYING TO MAKE is that we need to stretch the Defense Horizontally and Vertically...for the Offense to work...We don't do that now.

#1 thing the Browns need: A vending machine, so the coach can buy a clue.

@BIG7BEN: Steelers fans marry hairy women, The worst is the hairy chests on these women.

TOJ can't criticize the Steeler team so now his only way to get his displaced anger and frustration out is to make LAME attempts to go after Steeler fans.

BooHoo TOJ. Keep it up! It is actually funny!

PUT THE TEAM IN PUBLIC PARKING? Isn't that like spanking a 30 year old man? What good can that do?

And then, drop back in an umbrella offense? After one game, all of your remaining competitors would have this figured out and would run down the field on you at will. I think Patrick needs to be selling hotdogs in the dog pound instead of writing for the rag ABJ.

How about they just take the rest of the season off!!! Lets try that

#11 - Fire Mangini.

Arm chair quarterbacks, gotta love em.

Hey Jason. I've got some data for your research: Ohio is Steeler Country. End of story.

Point 5 has one flaw, Quinn can't throw 15 yards or more with any accuracy.

Keep Mangina, please keep that coach. The other teams in the division like the idea of two automatic wins every year.

jenkins,

First off, congrats on the lack of self-hate in one of your posts. See, you don't need to feel guilty 24/7.

Regarding the content of your post, I actually respect the franchise itself and I don't have that much against REAL Steeler fans. I do despise the front-running fans of Ohio who want to glom on the success of a winner. The test of a person's character is how you respond to adversity, right?

Obviously, I'm somewhat kidding because we're talking sports, but I still think people with rotating fandom are gutless and I will call them out as such, especially when they want to make JA comments on stories about the Browns. SOP for front-running Steeler fans is to shut your face because anybody can attach themselves to a winner. You're not special because you've already done so.

Coach T,

It is in Appalachia (there, it's also Unemployment Country, Above Average Illiteracy Country, and Dude, My Sister is Looking Good Country).

Better reopen that book, because the story isn't over. Ohio is Bengals Country, Browns Country and (partially, in economically depressed regions) Steelers Country.

BIG7BEN,

Yeah, OK, Big7Ben. You probably like the Cavs, too. Doesn't your aunt live in Seven Hills?

Last time I was in Steeler Country, the jersey-wearing-per-capita was through the roof. I think a Steeler jersey is actually considered to be "dress" attire to Steelers fans.

TOJ-

You are waaay too fixated on who roots for who. Get over it. You really sound like a jealous little ninny.

jenkins,

I agree, we are talking about sports. Hence, why enter a comments section of a sports story and get all worked up? Save the no-sense-of-humor energy for world news. Learn to laugh and the self-hate will dissipate.

Ninny? I'll call my grandma tonight and ask her what that means.

TOJ-
Don't call your Grandma. Just look in the mirror.

I do know how to laugh. I have seen the Browns. It isn't even fun to trash talk the Browns anymore. Too easy and now there is a level of sympathy.

But really, why does it matter to you who anyone roots for?
I grew up in Pittsburgh so I am and always will be a diehard fan. My son was born here in Ohio but he likes the Steelers because that is the team he knows the most about due to growing up in a household that diligently follows them. And when we go to games, we go to Pittsburgh.
There are no boundaries on fandom.

Look who cares about Steelers fans. They are riding the wave as they should. But I always wondered about the terrible towel thing. Basically, the towel is multi-purpose, I guess, since you can also use it if nature calls. And in most of PA, there's a lot of distance between rest stops! If Ben keeps getting hit as often as he does, his career will be as short as Brady Quinn's passes.

big7ben i respect your loyalty to the team you have always cheered for. i live in south florida now but still cheer for only the browns on sunday. they were born the same year as me so i have lived through some high points and now some low ones. we will be back just as your steelers were fodder for us when i was young and we won those 7 championships. stay loyal, don't flip flop..

jenkins,

She said it's short for nincompoop. She said the milkman used to yell that word at the kids when they would put their ball and jacks in the ice box.

Here's another question, why do so many people from PA live in NEO? I think Eastern PA is the only region of the country with a net migration TO Northeast Ohio. What's with that?

TOJ-

I am 45. Your grandma will have to explain the whole icebox/milkman thing to me.
Oh, and did you have to yell upstairs from her basement to ask her that question? How is that room down there working out for you?

jenkins,

The basement line? That's weak and unoriginal (kind of like Northeast Ohioans rooting for the Steelers). It might be funny if wasn't used almost daily.

I'll refrain from further commentary since I respect my elders.

TOJ-

You might hear it daily because it seems to be a dead-on description of you.
Don't worry-you will someday find the means to get your own place. But then you will have to do without story time and tuck-ins. Oh noo!
Do you make grandma shave her legs before you two spoon?

jenkins,

Pretty funny.... especially since I might be your neighbor. Whoops!

;)

TOJ-
I have to admit it. I do like the occasional "spar" with you. At least you have a brain. I even agree with you on some things (WalMart, Heather Nagle, Mayor Plusquellic). But that is about it.
I doubt we are neighbors though. My neighbors all have jobs during the day.

jenkins,

Yes, we do agree on occasion. How neighborly of me to be so agreeable.

Let Quinn play the whole game....even if they lose I hope he has a good game to show people he can play in the NFL...dosen't rip anyones fingers off...plays a montana sort of monday night game....sit in your seats...root for monday night football...and pray he has a better than a 10 qb rating....go browns....bad football is better than no football....I THINK?

How do I get an Avatar....wont let me sign any username....anyone to help

FIRE MANGINI NOW!!