Talking to one is like talking to the other in some respects. But there is also one other commonality — their teams, along with Garfield, are expected to be contenders for this year's City Series title.
The Griffins were voted the favorite several weeks ago.
There's little doubt that all three teams have certain dates when they play one another circled on their respective calendars. Of course, they wouldn't admit it.
''I don't pay attention to that,'' Powers said. ''Firestone looks like they're going to be a very tough team. We're going to worry about Buchtel and no one else.''
Flossie agreed with the man who played running back for him while he was the coach at Buchtel. But he's not about to concede the league to him.
''Our big question is quarterback,'' Flossie said. ''We have a good [offensive] line — two deep in some spots.''
Tackle Tommy Brown, who made an early commitment to Ohio State, anchors it.
As for Garfield, the Rams have some talent in the person of tight end/defensive end Kevin Brewton. Coach Bob Sax returns a veteran group. The Rams lost just four players to graduation last year.
There will be a huge hole to fill on the offensive side of the ball, however, as the Rams will look for someone to step up offensively with the departures of running backs Tyson (Syracuse University) and Tonio Gulley, who was expected to take his older brother's place in the Garfield backfield. The Gulley family moved out of the district.
''We expect to be right there with them,'' Sax said of his team's chances.
Where does that leave the rest of the league?
Coach Joe Yost of Ellet, whose Orangemen finished 5-5 last year said that he has a young team.
''We're going to have to grow during the season,'' he said.
But one weapon Ellet does have is three-year starter and All-City quarterback Rennick Dutton. Ultimately, what happens will show the character of his team.
''High-school teams don't [not] win because they're too small or too slow,'' Yost said. ''They win because they're focused and dedicated.''
Youth is an issue with East as well. Coach Damon Beasley is looking at possibly starting freshmen on the offensive line. Defensively, East will return nine defensive starters, a positive for the team. For leadership, they will look to wide receiver/defensive back Gerald Gregory, a senior and captain on the team.
The only certainty for Kenmore and North is that they are looking to establish new directions, and they've hired two new coaches to provide that.
Coach Ed Peltz returns to Kenmore after being away from the game for more than two decades to raise a family. He's back now with their permission. When he coached the Cardinals before, he was very active in the area's youth football program. He plans to return to that and rebuild the Kenmore program.
''I have told them: Listen. Learn,'' Peltz said. ''The team that is building something special is the team that stands a little bit straighter.''
Coach Mike Laktash is taking a similar attitude with him to the Vikings. Laktash is proud when he talks about learning from Ellet's Yost about playing and coaching football. But he's in a completely different situation than the school he left.
Already, he's had to contend with rumors that North wouldn't be able to field a team this year, a rumor that has proved to be false. But depth will be a problem as 30 players have consistently been at practices.
Laktash's primary concern, much like Peltz's, is turning around the culture. He's met some players who disrespect their parents or others who behave as if there's been little guidance in their lives, he said. He wants that to change.
''You have to start somewhere,'' Laktash said, ''and the football field is a great place to start.''